There are some characters you need to look out! I shall send you the list of the names! dare I mention a lady with daring name of DnD! she is sweetly devilish; more of lady friend Sulaika DnD! this is Basra, say hello!

Darling as usual, the feeling is mutual. I await that masterpiece of yours. Cheerio for the time being! have a wonderful weekend.

My Darling Basra! How are you? I have departed that place forever. Post that impeccable work of yours here and I will indeed review it. Cheerio, welcome to SOL Where Intellect is valued. :cool:

Though the dark tomb thy broken body hides, Still true, still manifest my love abides. I sought thy dwelling, passionate for thee, When Destiny had done its worst with me, But it was desolate, though wast dead, And ah, the bitter tears for thee I shed! The meadows laughed for joy, The clouds wept many a tear, As when a lovesick boy beholds his darling near Such a sight one becomes enchanted.

My hope drew near, till I streched out My hand, upon my hope to lay; But then my object swerved about And vanished into the Milky Way. So suddenly I, who was thus So certain, fell into despair; My hope was swept into Sirius That seemed within my grasping there. All men had envied my good chance, And now I envied in my turn; Desire had cast on me its glance, Yet I was only left to yearn. So fate delights eternally To vary good with ill sruprise: None puts his trust in Destiny Who is ambitious to be wise

I had a keyboard problem.

I,have,briefly,rea,Things,Fall,Apart.. The,only,African,Writer,whose,work,Iam,familiar,with,is,Nuradin,Farah.

Perhaps they don't regard him as an African!!!!!!

Miskiin Macruuf Akhiyaar! Well observed.

Samurai Sword These were heartbreakingly horrific pictures. Vicarious liable for financing!! are you lawyer! this is uniquely a law term.

Farah iyo Xalimo and yes I am being bais here! What is the worth of having prejudice if you can not air it! Respectfully, Farah

Salaam Alaikum Uuh this I long forgot about its existence, to surface now that I have even become more philosophical (using the word here generically); it is with delight I should first attempt to define what virtue is—perhaps most of the respondees have approached the issue in relative terms. The word may be but the meaning isn’t—though one can deduce another question from my mere statement and say is language a subjective entity; are meanings are subjective or otherwise? For example the meaning of God, is that subjective or it has an objective meaning to it? No doubt the fervent mind would undoubtedly first hurry it with the answer that is meanings being relative, but just like any metaphysical issue when the spanner it thrown in, the whole thing becomes murky- now let me not digress from the point at hand. Now let us consider what we mean by vurtue. Virtue as a thing is agent-centered entity. This means it is the foundation of good morals. What is then good morality? How do we define what is moral and what isn’t? this pseudo-theological and philosohical questions are not going to be considered at length here simply it would take a day to decioher all the issues involved. But I shall attend briefly to their response. Moral= goodness. This does not help. What is good? Is goodness defined by humanbeings (this means it is subjective, since humanbeings are not of the same frame of a mind) or it is independent from human experience? The preference between these two understandings makes all the difference in the way we see ourselves as humanbeings. It gauges the authority of religion, and it determines the behaviour of moral reasoning. The seeds of goodns, morality and virtue are words that jump together in every sphere of human experience. As none empericist (Lock, Hume and most earlier English Philophers were Empericist Philosophers) I believe that it would be folly to assume that all we know, respect or even worship should derived from our human experience—experience is used loosly in this context. The seed of good moral is there within us all as we come out of our mothers womps with our eyes closed together. Now, have broadly defined what I meant by morality (or perhaps I haven’t adequately done so) let us move it to the rest of the issue? Can then fortitude, bravery, kindness to others, courage, temperance, justice, prudence, and also truthfullness be taught? Can it be developed and cultivated? The answer to this is undoubtedly yes. Human’s have relatively speaking a free choice in life, we are not shackled to some iron robs contarary what the popular believe is. In other words I am not fatalist. As the popular Hadith Says, Kulu Mawluudun Yuuladu Calal Fidrah, Fa abawaahu Yuhawidaani, aw Yunasiraani or Yusalimaai (the last addition is narrated in the Sunan, was not aware of it, but Sheekh Maxamuud Shibli of Holland has indeed brought my attention to it). This means moral goodness is there, but it can either be cultivated to goodness or otherwise Hay Ibnu Yaqdan, this book is good. It is about a young boy was brought up by Gazzalle in an Island. He never had a human contact when he was growing up, and when he eventually had his first contact to a human; he stated that there was a higher being. I read this book few years back, it is written by Ibnu Tufail. Great book, you can read the summary of the story on here: http://www.islamonline.net/English/ArtCulture/2001/04/article3.shtml This story illustrates that moral goodness is innately in us all. But One can become corupted or enlightened as the above Hadith says. Hey, I really, have to do some work now, I hope this was enough for the time being. Let the ideas roll. Respectively, Farah

Halal Champaigne

This is great thread, potentially great place to learn. Did you know that a real believer is one whose his hand and tongue kept away from his fellow Muslims -- Laa yu'minu axadukum xataa salimal Muslimuuna min Lisaanihi Wayadihi- aw kamaa qaala Nabiyu SCW.

Smithy, the great worior! how have you been old nomad. I think the idea is great, but how can one/many can udertake this mamoth task. I am very receptive for any refreshing ideas, let them roll. Respectively, Farah

Inaa Lilaahi wa inaa ileyhi Raajucuun. Kulu Nafsin Daa'iqatul mawt, ............... faman suxsixa cani naar wa udqilal janata faqad faaz!

As a sympathiser of the Salaf's manhaj (the true path to the enlightenment), i agree with you Muraad adeer (I hope you don't mind me saying adeer to you adeero). The definition is something I have borrowed from the website, because I agree with the definition of Khaariji. But my agreement with them ends there. Especially wadaadka garka dheer markey kusheegaan Khaariji (they have implied that) ayaa jirkeyga xukaakubaa-- like my Somali, i have been improving it lately. Arinku sikastaba ha ahaadee, yeenaan ku deg degin arinmahaan oo kale. Sida walaalkeen Entep uu sheegay waxaan waxaaba laga yaabaa iney ka danbeeyeen qolyahaan aan maganta/martida unahay. Faarax Saan Qaad.

What thee hath said about ........! uuf, let us not talk about those Luudiyiin in this blessed Ramadan! Wal ciyaadu Bilaah.

Salamu Alaikum Muraad, walaalkiis, Salafiyah Jadiida anigu maahi. Entrep ayaa su'aal iweydiiyey su'aashii ayaan uga jawaabey. Anigu Jihaadi iyo Murji'i toona maahi. Muslim kunool Cari gaaleed oo imaankiisa lataag daran ayaan ahay. Anigu Rabiic ibnu haadi al waadicina xer uma ihi, neather am I a follower of wadaadka garka dheer ee gaaladu dooneyso-inkastoo isga aan ixtiraam dheer uhayo. Waad mahadsan tihiin Farah

Naag Rag/ah Gabar/Ragah

that-- no predudice intended. Man or Woman

Entep: Kharaja= waa kabaxay, yakhruju= wuu baxayaa, khaarijan= midka baxay. Ta'**** ahaan waa saas weeye. http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/khawarij.htm What is a Khariji and Who are the Khawarij? Khariji or Kharijite: a follower of the Khawarij, or the attribute of following the Khawarij. Khawarij: the group that expels people from the fold of Islam upon innovated principles and revolts against the rulers, causing much turmoil throughout the land The original Khawarij were the descendents of a man named Dhul-Khuwaysarah, as prophesied by the Messenger of Allah (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace). They are the sect that were responsible for the killing of many of his companions. They differ from the followers of the Salaf (the Prophet and his companions) in that they do not restrict themselves to the understanding which the Salaf had when applying texts related to takfir (excommunication). Hence, they use textual evidences, but fall short in understanding them. This is why the likes of Osama Bin Laden make unrestricted takfir. Regarding the Khawarij, Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, one of the great Salafi scholars of this time, said: "So having enthusiasm and an over-protective love for the religion is not sufficient. They must be founded upon knowledge and understanding of Allah's religion." - abridged from the book: The 'Wahhabi' Myth Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, Lamha 'an-il-Firaqid-Daallah

Both Sophist or Mujahid?

THis is scary territory