Devilangle, May I suspect those anti-blue_hefner thread fall under this category? Are you aware, that you offended another group of women (Single-mothers) just to make one individual (blue_hefner) feel bad. lol, What's wrong with single-mothers anyways, atleast they were married and did it in Halal, matter of fact, I wouldn't leave a woman to be single-mother if she meets my standards.

pple don't be rude to the brotha, he loves the girl and it's not that he doesn't know how to tell her, but he wants your advice which leads him to get his dreams come true. Rudy, it might be easier for you to keep moving coz you don't love her, but why don't you put ur self in his shoes then you will see what's up. If he was just tryna hit on her, then it would have been easier to opproach her and expect any kind of answer whether she says Yes or NO, but he loves her more than hitting, which of course is to marry her.

So your point is???? how is it looking down women if I talk about my ideal? I dont wanna involve in premarital sex and if I commit that sin "I ask Allah not to" then I don't consider that anymore. Tell me how's that looking down women or otherwise convince me to marry a whore bal aa aragnee.

^^^"Im not gonna say who but.."^^^^

May be she has some reasons why she preferred to have her concern in SOL? Don't you think so? For those of you that said " She can orgasm if she tries to argasm, spend time with her husband, or wear some sexy clothes" You didn't give her any realistic answer. A good feedback is effective when you have a good facts. We all don't know her medical history, as well as her husband. The best advice is to go see specialist that collects your information and offers you a professional help. Good Luck, Please when someone brings a topic, don't tell them they shouldn't be asking such question, just ignore it if you don't feel like involving it. I'm gonna say who, but some are just here to oppose any idea. There are a lot other ways to get recognition other than being rude and opposing everything. s.c

Lazy girl, I got ur points which made sense to me. The moral of my thread was to see the different views that we men have towards marrying someone you already slept with. I can be selfish and say I wouldn't marry someone who slept with me or others, but that doesn't mean it's fair for the most. But what I have problem with is that some members are just hard headed and self centered. Some of them commented it's Haram to sleep with someone in the first place. So tell me what does that answer? Of course I know it's Haram, but did I ask you that? On top of that, it's not that I have done it, but just questioning. It's somehow my privacy, but to honor you I will answer you question whether I wanna marry the girl I am with (u called a woman, next time say "the girl" please,lol) I am highly considering to marry her. And yes I have no problem with her getting as far away coz I have no intention to abuse the soon-2-be wify type. To Dabshid, sxb I am losing what? it's my opinion, wants, desires, rights to behave my way. What the hell u mean GIVE IT UP? my views you mean? To choose my ideal person has nothing to do with disrespecting women, men, or whatever. Just to let you know, ain't no one here to give you credit for what you said. Tell me you would marry anyone even ______, I still respect your opinion, but please don't advice me to give up mine.

Ibtisam, you're just biased, so you can't rule. U see what I said, but NOT what she said. I know it's not a good thing to disrespect someone or tell them u hate, but frankly, I don't know how to be nice when someone is rude to me. She's mentioned she doesn't wanna learn somali coz of me, referring whatever she meant, therefore I have the right to act upon it. I am entitled to have my opinion posted here, if anyone doesn't like it, I could careless but one shouldnt cross his/her limits and insult me.

Got you Scarface,

Hell no... Why would I? It's even worser. But pple let me ask you this? Did you even read the question before you tend to answer? this arabic saying " Fahm Su'aal Nisf Al Jawaab" meaning understanding the question, is half of the answer. Your answer sounds whether I am asking if that is religiously ok or not. But that wasn't my question. Matra, who cares if you don't learn Somali or chinese? "My cadaanimo kulahaa" I hate those wannabe's. What's there that Cadaanimo gives you that you don't have now? get ur self str8 first. This is called detabe, you can't just disagree to make ur self look like a person. Did I commit a sin? it's NO. Do I wanna do it? it's no. but it's just scenario given to the members.

U don't even know what ur talking about... Diinta ka bixi misha,, This is a social issue. Every person has the right to repent. And read the anology again if you know what I mean. When you think someone is sick, they say it's an alert that you're going to get sick...lol Don't be extrimist, mesha diin maa ka hadlonaa it's just somali thing.

Dating is haram, Gfriend is Haram everything is haram People this is a debate. it's not where we classify Haram or Halal. we all know the basics of our religion. She just asked Suaal Aduunyo. Just give your opinion. well, I think it's not good to see the person you dating everyday in your office or school. It's uncomfortable. It's good to see when you ready to have a good time like week-ends or other assigned times.

sorry I meant the private one is better and cleaner than public bathroom

It is not fair, but comeone you don't think of the society in all before your self. The guy will think, " you already did the dambi, but this girl is bad, so find someone else that is wify material. Let me give you this anology- which one is more nastier, Public bathroom or Private pathroom. I guess the private one, you know why? coz pple think themselves first, but you cant take care of the whole society. My point is, it's rare for anyone to think,, Ohh I did the same sin, so I will do fair the the whole society and get married to such person. Let's talk real,

Many of you wonder why we have no government for 16 yrs. Why we have no single effective community in North America, Europe or whatever you live. It's because everyone is stuck with his point of view. It's hard for one to debate, negotiate, compromise with others. Sometimes one gets mad when another brings such idea. You don't have to agree, but you can't dictate someone for any reason. Let pple think whichever way they're pleased to.

He is NOW enjoying in Jennna

Matra, Diinta soo baro intaa ku murmim. Somalida Jahli aa dilay. I said if you meet the requirements, God will forgive you. Didn't you the man killed 99 pple and he goes to Sheikh. he says, "Can I repent?, Sheikh says NOOOO you already killed 99 pple and you have no chance to repent, So he added the Sheikh since he can't repent anyways. Then he goes to another Sheikh, he asks the same question, Sheikh says Yes you can repent but ruquired to do certain things. To regret, stop doing it, leave from that place he commited the killings and ask Allah forgiveness that he will never do it again. The man left and dies on his way to where he's told to move. Malaikatul Cadaab and Rahma argued over the man whether he will go Janna or Naar. The total distance is measured and the man was Foot closer to where he was going. He's not enjoying in Jenna. Tell me why you were disgusted with "repentence". You pray for pple to repent but you dont get disgusted. Come force me to marry non-virgin while I never caused one to lose. Acting all good Muslim and who knows what you do.

Walaal if snything you're the one who seems to be a hypocrite to say you will fornicate with someone and would not marry them.Miyaad ka ficantahay qofka?...Ha this is hilarious. Where in my writing, did I mention to fornicate with someone? For God's sake it's hypothetical question. Most of you are answering another question. I am not asking it's dambi or not. It's clearly dambi, you don't need to repeat i again and again. It's question to the guys. Adiga afaarahaas ka bax hadee su'aasha ku quseyn. I am now going to think pple in that category are very concerned. Relax, I never even thought about doing that with my gf, and I told her that's not good to happen, what is the hypocracy your talking about. I ain' hiding nothing.

Originally posted by Xalimopatra: People seriously need to refer back to the religion when it comes to topics like this.Wasakhnimada iska dhaafa walaalyaal and keep your mouths and legs closed for your own dignity PLEASE! This topic is and embarassment to all those that fear Allah SWT and not man and his mouth.... You need to respect pple as you wish to be respected. What makes this wasakhnimo, while your topic "Suuush" you mentioned if you would ask your married person his past sexual experience. Hypocracy is not appreciated and don't force pple to think the same as you. We all should know our limits. You may disagree with me any idea I bring, but you have no right to label pple Wasakh.

xalimo, Diinta afkaga maa nooga bixinee, Listen sis, I know we stay away from dambi for the fear of Allah. But the percentage of pple that do not commit zina are only those Allah fearing, is that what you telling me? come on, lets be real. A lot of pple stay away from it because they don't want to mess with their dignity or sharaf among somalis, and there're so many other reasons not to. That's why Allah awarded those young pple who says NO to zina when they could do for the fear of Allah to be of the 7 pple that will see no sun in the judgement day. I respect your Taqwa that you wouldn't do it because of Allah but not for pple, but this is to all the pple. and I am sure there's a high percentage of pple save themselves from it for other reasons.

Ibtisam, I know you would prefer a Zero Mileage car, rather than the used one, eventhough you're the one that put on all that mileage. It's not fair but comone pple are selfish and care themselves first. So the price is different as you see.

lol, Che-Guev, I wasn't talking about boy in this thread, if you want one that I talked about them go and check "Ladies do not demand more if he's soft" I am not here to critisize women or disrespect anyone as I have mother, sister, and someone I love, but it's just an opinion based thread. We all have the right to decide our own way, and this is my way. It ain't even like a cheat or hide my secrets. And I dont think it's a problem if I tell someone that I will never marry you if that kinda Dambi (zin) occurs. I'm awere it's dambi, but lets put that aside as Allah is the one to judge. But somalinimo, or u personally was my concern.

I see girls going crazy, simply this isn't fair for them. I never said I had sex with someone and left for that reason, but it's (IF) and to that member who mentioned I have a sister and I wounldn't want that to happen to to her, you're right but that would only be applicable if I'm telling you I left a girl for that matter. You gurls should talke this as a tip, that a man will degrade you after that, that your price will drop down, that you will not be considered wify material. What's wrong with this idea as long as I'm saying (IF) coz I personally have no intention to cause someone lose her virginity. Taliban, ur style sounds Taliban, are you promoting arranged marriage again? of course someone u talk to, date, or whatever you call, is ur girfriend and you may or may not end up with. She doesn't have to be ur wife afer the min u start talking to her. U guys change the whole subject again.

Taliban thanx for the evidence, however,what is mentioned here prohibts a permenant girlfriend "referring to those couples live together" or going no further than friendship. But you can date someone while your intention is to marry the person. I totally agree with you, that it's Haram to have relationship with someone as it's your last destination, but tell me how would Islam forces us to marry a stranger. I guess Islam is way easier than that. We just need to learn more of it. You can always change the term "girlfriend" back and forth, but talking with someone as she/he is considerably someone to marry, is another way of saying girlfriend, qofteyda, mustaqbal keyga, or whatever you call. it's always relationship btwn you and him/her.

Puja, am sorry I guess I didnt answer the first part of your question, which is why I said so. The reason is because, as you talk to the person and have a relationship with, there get to be something you look forward to it atleast. That the day you marry and she carry the name wife, she's halal to you. That you can have sex with. Dont get me wrong, I dont mean only sex is the reason we get married, but atleast it's a major one as the Prophet scw said " man yaastadhic al ba'ata, falyatazawij" qofkii awooda ha guursado to eliminate dambiga "zinada" . So if I reach the peak, in other words, have a pure sex with her, and what forces me to marry her? I get everything I need. I am already living life, eat, sleep, the only thing that she would add is Halal sex. So it's over. Plus I will believe that she would do for anyone anyways.

Matra, I am not promoting Faaxisha here, but it's just a hypothetical question. Az zaani Laa yankix Illaa Zaanin or Mushrik. it's true, but don't forget Allah gave Muslims a chance to repent for their past sins as long as they meet the requirements. Therefore, anything past will not be accountable and since you clear your self out of Faaxisha, you still have a hope to look for the best person. To Puja, that's why I will never commit a sin (sex) with the person I love. And I seriously told her str8 up that she is gone the min she does that with me despite the fact that I know she will never think of that for herself.