Originally posted by Xarago: So for the Somalilander question. To be honest it is a newly coined word and it does not have any meaning semantically, but as it stands it is refered to people from Somaliland. Never the less the people from Somaliland are ethnically Somalis as from those from anywhwere else in the World. If i understand you right , what you´re saying is that Soamlilanders are Somalis (ethnically) i.e they´re Somalis , well so are the Nolanders and Puntlanders Suldanka ... If citizenship is defined and granted to ONLY person(s) descending from ppl who lived in a given territory under a specific time. Then that means the ppl who belong to the Northern sub clans but descend from what is today knows as ******IA and many other parts of SOMALIA are everything but Somalilanders. n that itself IS an insult to many die hard Somalilanders i know of , Suldanka .. are you SURE that you´re not here to confuse me more? OG_GIRL .... sweet thing they can tell that you don´t descend from the Northern sub clans .. All they need to do is compare your gens to the gen Databse in Hargeisa , the Interior minster office is in charge of the imagiration department , which runs (owns) the gen Databse and Voila .. no match Xarago ... i´m down for ya honesty .. plz dnt abandon me with Suldanka , u never know he´s got in his back pocket

OG_GIRL .... i understand you VERY well honey , n i´m proud of ppl like you taking a pride in their ancestries, but as for my paradox , it is rather somewhat twisted as am getting deffrent definations of the TERM "Somalilander". Xarago : i really deeply appreciate ya efforts to eloberate on ma paradoxy, so you may continue n enlight me in peace , just one TINY thing, try to be more specefic , use less metaphors ( i´m a lil bit retarded ). deviding your hands is already consuming lots of my brain cells on the left hand you´re telling me that is is a "self inflicted confussion " on the right hand you´re telling me that IT DEPENDS on my sincerity n if it is a genuine one ( which it is ) you´re giving a geography lesson . This is scary .. maybe i was not clear enough about my paradoxy. i´ve no problem whatissoever with Somaliland ( the political TERM ) i understand that very well , it is rather the Somalilanders that i can´t define them. Do you consider yourself a Somalilander ? if so on what terms? and vice versa

I´ve a problem defining who is a Somalilander. After asking many ppl that are BORN or belong to the Northern sub clans i ONLY got confused. My freind "Awil" was born n raised in Mogadishu, he speaks, lives n acts like a "Mogadishu boi",he shares VERY little except tribal route with Northern guyz ,STILL he is considered a Somalilander by many of his Nolander and punlander freinds. while Jama (another freind)who is born n raised at Hargeisa tells me that is and considers himself a Somali not a Somalilander. Then there is Aisha ( a freind´s gf )who is born at Borama but was raised in Mogadishu n considers herself a "PURE" somalilander, though her Nolander and puntlander freinds consider her "Mogadishu girl". Then There is Abdiwahid who is born at Buhodle and considers himself a Somalilander, not to forget Jama born n raised at Hargeisa who considers himself a 1st class Somalilander, last but not least there Ahmed born n raised at Burco who sometimes considers himself not ONLY a Somalilander but it´s backbone but sometimes Somali considers himself n acts as a Somali. As u can understand i´m confused. It has gone to the extent i´ve to watch how i address and talk to my ONLY few somali freinds who happen to belong to the Northern sub clans. Frankly speaking i do find myself sympathizing more with Aisha who considers herself a Somalilander and want a seperate soverign STATE than i sympathize with Jama( the weirdo from Hargeisa). now.. am i alone in this paradoxy ?

I´ve been followin this thread from start .. i´ve seen how puntlanders and "Mogadishu ppl"(No Lnaders ) together acted as united front against seperatists somalilanders. All i´ve seen is pointless debate and rain of emitions. you guyz have even USED the Moslim cause as a reason to keep somaliland in the fold. now let me give you a dos of pragmatic questions. for somalilanders: 1: your seperation move was unilateral i. e illigal,so you´ve to turn back to the same ppl you´ve sidelined for an acceptable legal divorce. how u gonna DO that? yellin " i´m a sovereign state " without recognition haven´t helped for 14 years .. will you go secretly to GAROOWE n apply for a federal passport to n still CLAIM hopelessly that you´re a STATE? for Puntlanders and Nolanders: what have you got for the somalilanders except destruction, hatered and chaos?

LoooL@Johhny B .. can I get all above except "wadaad" thing? Me hate somali wadaad

adega i rabto dee huuno , didn't you ask if every body missed you? dee kuma misgareynin

Nope :cool:

Ofcourse there is good guys out there , but how to find them that is the BIG question :confused:

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