xiinfaniin;758963 wrote: ^^How charitable :D Don't read too much into forum discussions. Just a good advice I will consider your advice although i don't see the relevance of it to this topic or what we have talked about.

xiinfaniin;758955 wrote: ^^My bad . Dabrow is with Mintid now. That is interesting development indeed Don't paint yourself into a corner. Just a good advice.

I mean agree with him. You have to understand my english is not good at all. But you are still not making sense. Of course the americans wont tell somalis about their goals its merely stating the obvious, but you still somehow thinks its debatable. Its not.

Xiin: I must sideline with Mintid on this one. You are not making sense:D

Che -Guevara;758942 wrote: ^You are going in with the assumption these men (TFG) have control over anything. Nothing is in their hands and Sharif will say whatever he's told and sign whatever agreement he's presented with. Che understand it. These TFG folks are not in control of our country.

Good read.

Qandalawi;758475 wrote: This is a bit over the top and an exaggeration. Israel would never get involved in Somalia with a direct confrontation or attack, that would be very sensitive. They may provide Kenya with weapons here and there or train their forces which they did before anyway, as they have good relations, well not really, Israel does not care about good relations but interest. The Israelis have enormous interests and business in the coastal town of Mombasa - they have a big share in the tourism industry and also monitor the movement of the largest port in the region. However, Israel is clever enough to stay away or at least not to be vocally involved with the problems of a Muslim country just like they abstained from Afganistan, Iraq, Libya etc. Bro,,,they are provoking a war with Iran, somalia is not sensitive at all. Even kenya is in Somalia....lets face it. Somalis should really wake up from the sleep before they get outmanoeuvred and outsmarted

Well somalis are busy killing themselfes, ofc other people will take advantage of that. I hope somalis comes to their senses. Inshallah

Somalia;758451 wrote: You stated Kenya and Ethiopia and you didn't state the most OBVIOUS out of all of them. But NOW you state it after being called out on it. Please, stop embarrassing yourself. Have consistent views man. You are the one who embarrassing himself, but please go on, and see where you ends up.

Somalia;758448 wrote: No, its ok to be embarrassed, I would be too if I wasn't consistent in my views. So again, lets take Yemen, if Yemen was to invade tomorrow, lets say IF, not "they don't have the ability", just IF, would that be ok? Ethiopia isn't in your view and Kenya should have asked for permission. Oh so it's never ok you say now .. I'm just trying to map out which countries are allowed and which are not. I already told you on the previous page that foreign armies have had somalia as playgrounds for years, in your mind you really think i'm saying?? Ethiopia not ok Kenya not ok but..... Yemen > ok? or if you use your brain and read what I wrote, you should know that I oppose all foreign armies in Somalia. This is no brainer actually and I think your maping has to come to and end, Dont you think so?

Somalia;758444 wrote: So if Kenya had ASKED to invade and TFG said YES, it's OK, but Ethiopia INVADES with PERMISSION and its TREACHEROUS? WOW In my view a invasion is never OK but. Bro,,,you dont have anything of relevance to speak of. Lets leave it there.

Jacpher;758438 wrote: What is the Jewish State getting out of this in return is a good question. We know what the Kikuyus are after. We know that their lapdogs are after. But we don't know why Isreal of all the sudden is cutting a deal with Kenya to fight AS? Yes, this matter should be examined very carefully. Those Kikuyus are jokes, but israelis can fight and has the hardware. worrisome development.

Somalia;758436 wrote: What POINT? Tell me the reason why some are traitors and some are not, you evidently listed Abdullahi Yusuf as first showing your clan interests more than anything else. I'll ask you again. If there's no difference then WHY ARE SOME TRAITORS AND SOME ARE NOT? LOL...easy now. I already answered your question but like the last time you fail to grasp the point again. I listed A/Y because he brought ethiopians inside Somalia. If he had not done that i would not list him as traitor. He made his choice. And I listed azania as traitor altough they brought the kenyans, even though Kenyan apperently invaded without asking TFG i still consider them traitors for allowing it to happen and this amisom stuff begun with A/Y. I dont care about clans stuff even if it shocks you. Somalia have been playground for foreign armies for years and now even Israelis wants to play. Shameful traitors.

Somalia;758433 wrote: Still hurt over when I called you out a while back? How about you defend your view, what's the difference between Kenyan, Burundi/Uganda and Ethiopian blood? What are you talking about? Hurt? You mean if I still laugh at you for not grasping the point? No difference in foreign occupation, They should leave Somalia and traitors should be brought out in the daylight.

Somalia;758419 wrote: ^^ Shariif has Uganda and the whole of Africa there, do you not see how dumb you sound when you write hypocritical bull like that? Are you talking to me? I'm no supporter of Sharif or TFG. Go find some puntlands threads and brag of non relevant stuff bro.

AY traitor brought ethiopians. azania traitors brought kenyan and israelis? May allah help Somalia regain its proud again.

Thanks for the pics !

Independence from Somalia? if its true then all ppl who like somalia to remain in its form should oppose Azania.

Gabbal;757668 wrote: What Kenya is doing is not any more different than what Ethiopia has done and is doing to your Puntland and Somaliland. In fact, even the boots on the ground as we remember clearly the Puntand elites' celebration of Ethiopian battalions in Gaalkacyo facing down the ICU. Pressing realities on the ground supersede your forced cries of pseudo-nationalism half a world away. bingo. Im no supporter of azania but you are right on this one. This ppl dont support somalia, they support their own clanstates and bring on fake nationalism to the table.

No problem, we can leave it there. I dont see anything good develope from this.

Thanks for proving my point. You want to argue for arguing sake. I wrote that wrong and my english is not the best in the world, but i hope you got the message, thats what matters.

Somalia;757083 wrote: I don't believe in attacking Somaliland, I believe in federal entities, a federal parliament made up by the population numbers, not 4.5, that's not a Puntland or a Southern Somalia belief. Please provide to me where I've said that Somaliland should be attacked on all costs , the closest I've ever said is SSC to come back to Puntland for a fair power sharing and that their lands would again be under their control. That's a populist idea, not mine. Another thing I've said is that the idea of a sovereign in Somaliland should be attacked if recognition is granted , that idea is shared by all democratic countries around the world. If Texas was to secede, the US would have a right to go in and take control because that entity would work against the interests of the rest of the country. Cleary you want to dicuss for the dicussion only and this text above have no substance, you contradicting youself about somaliland. But generally speaking this is not only about you but the whole of SOL. We have different camps thats have different clan agendas and thats mirrors the sitaution back home, and its -recipe for failure. ok thanks for insight in to your beliefs, but understand my messages. Somalis enemies are themself.

Somalia;757075 wrote: Go ahead and explain to me, which mentality. No one makes a joke that Somaliland is in this list, you actually THOUGHT they were in the list, because there's one list out there that they are in. So you thought to yourself, "let me rub it in his face". Please, rub in my face something factual. The clan mentality, protect puntland at all cost, attack somaliland at all cost or what you think is the enemy of your clan. Somaliland dont exist as recongnized country, why would it be in that list? Dont make me believe you are dumb or something because I told you already I wanted to see how you reacted and not because I "thought" it was in that list. I dont rub thing is in people face, thats the old mentality bro.

Somalia: Ok if you claim you are new school like me why are you holding on dear life on the old mentality that demolish our country? I'm no somalilander, but I wanted to see your reaction...and you did not dissapppoint me at all. We need to start see each other as somalis and not the old way and keep the animosity running eternal time, just a good reminder.

Somalia;757030 wrote: Yes, I am the reason for Somalia being where it is, I single handedly destroyed a country before I was even born. Noone talk about singlehanded but if you say you are guilty then so be it.