Tillamok: I dont think so. Warrior: the important thing is not when but who gets appointed or selected so to speak.

Wishful thinking. Lets wait and see those who are supposed to bring forward this motion. If they even exist so to say...

Lol I havent change my position yet however I can report and discuss things i dont agree with.

Tillamok: these numbers will change little. I assure you that this is what was agreed upon. The only thing under discussion is those allocated to gedo community. The 140 is as i said only from gedo and we all know that gedo folks are found aswell in the two jubbas.

Jacpher;948978 wrote: ^As if your 'supportive of this process' means anything We shall see.

oba hiloowlow;948976 wrote: war dabrow i heard even reer goldogob got seats while bantu's doesnt even have one seat If its true then this highlights how unfair this whole process truly is...

Delegates: region Lower Jubba: 190 Gedo: 180 Middle Jubba: 130 Specific clans: Gedo community: 140 (this number will probaly increase since whats has been agreed on its only gedo and not the other two regions) This is why the conference is taking long time. -community 116 Puntland community: 23 The states Parliament seats: Gedo community: 22 community: 12 Puntland community: 3 http://kismaayo24.net/?p=60760 With this said, Im not in supportive of this process who lacks legitimacy in the somali gov eyes

Good news

The Zack;946303 wrote: Dabrow, it is either Jubooyinka or Bay iyo Bakool. you can't have your cake and eat it too. P.s. Markii Bay iyo Bakool la sheego maxaad la qeylidaan? after all they are also Somalis who actually have their share in Gedo. If going by your logic then why not create a super state including bay and bakool+ jubbaland, they are after all somalis But ofc you wouldnt that you are just using it as a meaningless argument.

:Dlol @ some folks trying to divide gedo camp in two faction.Rer gedo and reer Galgaduud. Such is of course nonsense and they are barking up the wrong tree. And concering Jubbaland, Gedo has many options and of course this process headed by the Kenyans is not synonymous with Jubbaland even if some here would like us to believe that:D

First of all its not a conspiracy teori. Its a fact. And you can google about kenyans role in this matter. The president and pm has been traviling around countries to adress this matter. But I understand that this is a way for you to discredit me. You fail to understand that im not against the idea but how this process has become over time. There has to be restart in this process. If this state is going to be a reality. This is not a local matter anymore since foreign agendas are at play here. The somali gov needs to be involved in this matter. Gedo has no issues with jubas. They only have concerns about this process. Either it will be restarted or a new process about statebuilding in the jubbas and gedo will begin.

You make it sound illogical but its really simple. The idea of three regions forming jubbaland I support but not how this process has evolved and become. Therefor not only gedo community but other local communities have also abonded this foreign project. Is in need of fresh start with all the stakeholders and goverment support to create a new federal state. A somali led project. Not a IGAD one nor Kenyan. But some will keep insist and tell us that this project is still possible even without gedo community who also reside in large numbers in kismayo. You said yourself gedo should join bay iyo bakool. You need to wake up sxb and face reality. Obviously the only solution is to restart this process and get everybody onbard including the somali goverment. This is the way forward.

Naxar Nugaaleed;946017 wrote: Gedo can join bay and bakool One can be supportive of the idea of a state for the three regions without be supportive of this ongoing process. Joining bay and bakool is not even at the table. And that would be against Gedo community wishes.

Good news and hopefully this clear out the fake illusion of that the locals support this foreign driven IGAD project. Very patriotic people and of course bad news for Kenyas ambitions in the region.

oba hiloowlow;945528 wrote: Originally Posted by Tillamook He is a dictator, cause he is against our tribal agenda. Good job Oba for busting these fake crocodile tears.

Nothing new here. Hassan sheikh just reaffirm his position. This Kenya-led project will not become reality.

Ahmeds madoobe former friends. Wouldnt be suprised if he flipflopped and rejoin alshabab when he realize that his project wont fly

malistar2012;944632 wrote: Its not about the constitutions or what not .. its about Puntland Participating in London conference as equal as Fed Gov , President Hassan told Farole in Straight face NO NO Means NO ... Wada hadaladii albaabada ugu xirnaa Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo Madaxweynaha Puntland C/raxmaan Faroole ayaa aaqirkii keenay in Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh uu diido in soo jeedinta Puntland oo ahaa in shirka London lagu daro, iyadoo Madaxweynuhu ku adkeystay in ajandaha shirkaas uu yahay mid cad, isla markaana horay loo go’aamiyay. This is just about sheer desperation and one should not take Farooles tantrum serious. Faroole needs to admit his position. This is not the TFG of yesterday. The country have a legitimate President now.

Johnny B;944378 wrote: Yes, i object the forming of a state by a faction of the "Somali Army" and of course i object forming a state that is yet to be wholly liberated. Lastly , i object the amount of disrespect shown to the PM and his government. well said.

Indeed its crazy. But thats the case when federal states wants to play hard ball with the somali gov. One would atleast hope that they knew whats best for them. I.e joining this conference but however as you said its great moment for somalia and the train will not stop because of spoilers.

The conference should go on. The issues with Sland can be adressed later. The focus should be on adressing the south for now.

In your view im silly for wanting a solution? This gov are not perfect however its requires to see the bigger picture that are being painted here. There are many players in this game. Somalis and non somalis whom wish to see Somalia in remained weak position. This gov wants to take back the destiny of this country back in their own hands. This I can understand. You should be able too.

Its quite clear that you avoiding the question as it here for everyone to see. I must say that your so called analyse of me was entertaining and it was for one reason. Its totally BS and here I thought you would be honest in your debates. I have no envy for my cousins however I want this process to involve the gov when that happens then I will support the process for the good of the common.

Illyria;943083 wrote: Always confirm and seek the truth. Thats something we both agree upon.

Illyria;943071 wrote: Dabrow, May be so ONLY if one is wet behind the ears or green with envy, but NOT if one has ears and feet on the ground. if you know what I mean. I am too old to fall victim to misinformation. So you claim however it remains to be confirmed. Xiin. You are comical and trying to spinn here inorder to confuse the gallery. So are you support of former alshabab and warlord madobe or not? Its quite simple question.