Im just a fella observing politics. Infact what I think matters little on the ground but Its tough question if one weight in strategic reasons but I would like to see someone from madoobe folks. However if thats whats Barre chose to do its different question and story.

Madoobes folk will get their fair share with Prez. Barre Hiirale. I believe its important to build a state where its people are happy with their representation. A strong foundation with grassroot support is much better then foreign support.

Dp

I didnt make the pic. Its on google and save your crocodile tears. You are supporter of a wellknown terrorist and warlord madoobe.

Japher: lol it was a honest mistake from me. I googled cannoboore and amin arts and came up with that pic. I dont have the time xiin has put in his pic.

Forum police got me.

malistar2012;951638 wrote: xiin lets face the fact give credit where credit is due , Barre did what these failed Politicians couldn't do in 5 years in one day -Sheikh Axmed Madoobe Pro. Gaandi -Sheikh Maxamed -Awlibaan-.- C/raxmaan Faroole and abdirashid shermarke " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> This clearly shows Barre enjoys more support and power then any candidate in Jubbaland Barre enjoys support from the local clans from Kismayo up to Doolow. He is backed from the Gedo admin and governor Kaliil support him aswell. Those who wish him away should brace themself. Because this struggle is about sovereignty and integrity of Somalia. Kenya will not succeed in implementing their proxy state.

^^Whatever you say Xiin. The bagdad bob of SOL:D

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N.O.R.F;951543 wrote: Dee there IS instability. 3 presidents, uncertainty and tension in the city with the malitias poised as reported Iin the media. You'r 10k miles away posting in favour of one side. Let him ignore the reality on ground. It will come to a point where he cant ignore it anymore, how much xinnow looks away.

Hambalyo Madaxweyne Barre Adan Shire. The locals have spoken. No to Kenya/IGAD agenda in Jubbaland.

Apophis;951611 wrote: Is it really necessary to antagonise some Gedo folks? It only distracts us from our commonality. Xiin has become a mere joke these days. However this should be taken as Xiin is constant worrying about President Barre Hiirale.

Im positive that IGAD will respect the wishes of Somali gov and people. If not then this might badly jepordise the efforts of bringing Somalia back on right track and battling terrorism.

Today the office the PM rejected the outcome of this narnialand election. Madoobe thought he could fight the somali gov with foreign muscles. He is in for a wake up call. As many others

Mogadishu has moved on. I suggest SOL members to do it aswell.

Thanks for sharing Oba.

(AFP) — A warlord in southern Somalia's Jubaland has declared himself "president" of the region, clan leaders said Thursday, shortly after the election of another militia commander to the post. With tensions already high, the move raised the risk of clashes between rival factions in the southern port city of Kismayo, a former stronghold of the Al-Qaeda-linked Shebab, where Kenyan troops in an African Union force are now based. The city was quiet Thursday, but residents have reported clan militia reinforcing their positions across Kismayo. On Wednesday, former Islamist warlord Ahmed Madobe was elected Jubaland's "president" by a conference of some 500 elders and local leaders. Neither the title nor the region itself is recognised by the weak central government in Mogadishu. His supporters -- including the powerful Ras Kamboni militia -- fired heavy machine guns into the sky to celebrate his appointment, residents said. "They were firing guns late into the night...the situation is calm now but the city is tense, there are fears of clashes between militia," Kismayo resident Hassan Mohamud told AFP. Madobe is a key ally of Kenya, and his appointment risks opening a rift between Nairobi and Mogadishu. But shortly afterwards, former Somali defence minister and warlord Barre Hirale, who comes from a rival clan, declared himself also president after a separate conference. "I was nominated president of Jubaland by the elders...I call on the people to support my presidency to assist me in bringing peace," Hirale told reporters. "The conference where I was nominated was organised and belonged to the people... while the other conference was organised and pushed by Kenya," he added, calling on people "to lay down their arms and help rebuild the region." Hirale, a veteran militia commander from the ******* clan, has in recent years been backed by Ethiopia to battle Shebab insurgents. Both elections are understood to be opposed by the central government in the capital Mogadishu, which is keen to stamp its authority on the lawless and war-ravaged nation, not to see further regional splits. There was no immediate reaction to developments from Mogadishu. "If fighting breaks out in Kismayo, it will be the Somali government that will take responsibility for the bloodshed, because they are creating instability between brotherly clans," Madobe told reporters. Residents in Kismayo said they now had two leaders. "Today we have two presidents, and one of them is aided by Kenya's army...the city is quiet but people are not moving in the streets as they are worried," Kismayo resident Ahmed Ali said Thursday. "Clan militia supporting either side are reinforcing their positions across the town," he told AFP by telephone. Jubaland lies in the far south of Somalia and borders both Kenya and Ethiopia, and control is split between multiple forces including clan militia, the Shebab, Kenyan and Ethiopian soldiers. Jubaland joins other semi-autonomous regions of the fractured Horn of Africa nation, including Puntland in the northeast -- which wants autonomy within a federation of states -- and Somaliland in the northwest, which fiercely defends its self-declared independence. Invading Kenyan troops -- now part of the AU force mandated to support the government in Mogadishu -- captured Kismayo alongside Madobe's troops in October 2012. Madobe, from Somalia's ******i clan, was once governor of Kismayo and a key member of the Islamic Courts Union -- whose armed wing was the Shebab -- that was toppled by Ethiopia's 2006 US-backed invasion of Somalia. During the invasion he was wounded in a bombing raid in southern Somalia, and was captured and taken to Ethiopia, spending at least two years in jail. After his release, in late 2011 he switched allegiance to battle his former Islamist comrades by fighting alongside Kenyan troops. Source: AFP

Folks you are grasping at straws here. Its quite natural and understandble for me to support Barre as president for Jubbaland. Unlike Madoobe, Barre is not on Kenyan payrolll and nor does he came to the city riding on Kenyan tanks. And thus respresenting a alternative to terrorist madoobe. But I understand that you want to avoid to discuss this important issue and instead discuss characters. Its common trait amongst you.

This is based on obeservation of reality. Like it or not. Uganda have not showed the same hostility as the kenyans. But Im for a reformation of the Somali army and building a strong capable force to secure its own country, this sitaution with foreigners with different agendas running inside the country is not optimal at all.

Zack: Its really simple its not about foreign nations but their behaviour. Uganda is not trying to carve out Xamar as a bufferzone nor does it try to annex its waters. You are welcome to try again.

Positive news indeed!

Keep reciting the past. Xiin:D, Somalia have enough brave people to tackle this challenge and move foward.

One must be able to rise above clan and the past adeer and this one those times. For Somalia future sake.

xiinfaniin;951131 wrote: Ah President's name sake , a known warlord who spent good portion of last twenty years selling scraps of Somalia's national monuments i.e. Sayid Mohamed, Ahmed Gurey and others is now coming to rescue our president Culusow miyaa :D As we suspected before USC's reincarnation is in progress ... Xiin this is not a laughing matter. This is the geopolitics I was talking about that goes behind closed doors. However I think you are not able to confront yourself and see this matter as it is. Clan has clouded your mind.