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The people of the capital show their support for the PM and his goverment. http://radiomuqdisho.net/daawo-sawirrada-dibadbax-lagu-tageerayay-xukuumadda-oo-muqdisho-lagu-qabtay/
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Mogadishu- — a motion against the prime minister of the federal republic of Somalia and his cabinet was recently proposed by some parliamentarians but a large number of them made a u- turn and withdrew their support. Mrs. Amina Mohamed Mursal who held a ministerial position in the transitional federal government said that the Mps aimed at interrupting with the cabinets' good work over the past 6 months. Mrs. Amina added that this was not the right time for Mps to show their opposition against a young and willing cabinet. "This cabinet successfully restored international relations with the international community and have shown great and promising developments" said the former minister. Hassan Keynaan who is one of the parliamentarians who changed their mind over the motion said that it was the duty of parliamentarians to control and watch over the cabinet but the current problem can be solved by summoning the ministries individually and stop the generalization. "If you have problems against some ministries the parliament can summon them one by one and sort out the problems but destroying what we have been working for the past 6 months is a big mistake" said the Mp. Another politician by the name Mohamed Yarow addressing Shabelle radio in Mogadishu said that the current proposers of the motion can be termed as "a catalyst" towards development and a constitutional ruling can be taken to stop them. A large number of Mps turned out at a meeting held in parliament building in Mogadishu expressing their support towards the prime minister and his cabinet. http://allafrica.com/stories/201305210866.html
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Alpha Blondy;952979 wrote: i don't really know who to support ruunti. i'm a complete novice to jubbaland politics. who should i support? Watch the videos to begin with and follow Jubbaland politics then make your own mind. Myself I support President Barre Hiraale because of the nature of Kenyans and the history of NFD. The locals will never accept the stooges of Kenya, even if they muster the support of Ghana and nigeria.
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MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's new government said on Monday it was pursuing talks to resolve rival claims for control in the south that have stoked fears of a return to the clan wars that pitched the nation into anarchy two decades ago. A local assembly on Thursday declared a former Islamist warlord, Ahmed Madobe, president of Jubaland. Madobe is not viewed favorably by Mogadishu and within a day two other men had pronounced themselves president, including Barre Hirale, a former warlord and defense minister seen as pro-government. How the fate of Jubaland and its port city Kismayu is resolved will be a litmus test for Somalia as it rebuilds from the ruins of war and cements a fragile peace, a quest hampered by the central government's weakness outside Mogadishu. Islamist militants or clan militias, hovering in the wings, could swoop if the competition for Kismayu turns violent. But guns have stayed silent so far and the government's stated determination to seek talks could help it stay that way. "It will take time but there is no going back to civil war. That is not an option," Ahmed Adan, a spokesman for Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon Saaid, told Reuters, calling for "peaceful and authentic negotiations". On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991. "Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable." Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said. Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position. "Kismayu is perhaps the biggest prize to be had in Somalia," said J Peter Pham of the U.S.-based Atlantic Council. "It has the biggest working seaport in the country, two airports, and is surrounding by potentially rich agricultural lands." DIVVYING UP POWER Regional capitals and Western donors are nervous of any reversal of gains made in Somalia by African Union peacekeepers in the fight against the Islamist al Shabaab rebels, seen as a threat to stability in east Africa and well beyond. President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud's cash-strapped federal government exerts little authority beyond Mogadishu. How to divvy up power between the center and regions is a thorny issue, particularly when Kismayu's lucrative port is at stake. The prime minister's office said a high-level government delegation was in negotiations with the rival parties. There is, though, a widespread feeling among Somalia's southern clans that Mogadishu is not listening to their demands. Even so, a mixture of exhaustion with conflict and a desire to capitalize on Kismayu's trade flow could help peace to hold. "Among the clans I don't think there is any appetite for civil war. There is, though, a real appetite for control of power and resources," said Abdi Aynte, director of the Mogadishu-based Heritage Institute for Policy Studies. Madobe, who some see as close to Kenya, was governor of Kismayu during an Islamist administration that was routed when Ethiopian forces, with the tacit backing of the United States, waged an offensive in Somalia from 2006 to 2009. He was held in Ethiopia for two years. After his release Madobe and his powerful Ras Kamboni militia sided with Kenyan troops against al Shabaab from late 2011. Kenya's land forces swept into Somalia to secure the porous frontier the two share and are now part of a near 18,000-strong African Union peacekeeping force fighting al Shabaab. A Kenyan ally in Kismayu could provide Nairobi with a welcome buffer. (Additional reporting by Drazen Jogic and Richard Lough; Writing by Richard Lough; Editing by Edmund Blair and Mark Heinrich)
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Thanks Baashi for the link. Even Reuters is talking about the looming instability in Kismayo. A reality the likes of Xiin wants to supress and forget about. "On the ground, several Kismayu residents said they still feared a resurgence of the gun-toting militias that carved up the Horn of Africa state after civil war erupted in 1991. "Kismayu is returning to the era of warlords. It is each clan and its own might," Dahaba Olad, a mother of eight, said by telephone. "We don't want war, but it is inevitable." Shopkeeper Safia Ali said she was doubtful southern Somalia's clan rivalries could be overcome. "Sooner or later there will be civil war in Kismayu," Ali said. Their fears are fuelled by Kismayu's strategic position."
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As you where:D
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xiinfaniin;952611 wrote: ^^Yeah go on Dabrow Remember there is a tomorrow When logics fails then come with nonsense. The essense of xiin:D
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When Dabrow is reporting about the facts on the ground its called Habaar? When Xiin does it is reporting the news? This is getting sad xiin. Btw you didnt answer my question.
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xiinfaniin;952582 wrote: Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu) lol. Our USC boys are busy misinforming after their boy Barre failed to deliver If Shabelle was according to you a "bad" source, then why is Kenya TV and Allafrica reporting the same? Let it rest Xiin:D
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The city of Kismayu which is located in a strategic location has faced political scramble in the past few days. The Raskamboni militia which administrates the city has been involved in several reported criminal activities such as looting and murder against the residents of the city. Elders from the region have called on the federal government to intervene and protect the innocent members of the public against the undisciplined militia troops. Mr. Hirsi Boot an elder from the region has pleaded with the federal government to come to the rescue of the city as insecurity in the region increased gradually. The elder added that the federal government should perform its responsibility and secure the region from hungry leaders who scrambled for power in the region. It is important to note that insecurity in the region worsened in the past few days after several leaders announced their presidency in the region of which the members of the public declined to give support to the self declared presidents. http://allafrica.com/stories/201305200399.html
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peasant;952341 wrote: ^^So you are saying it is a highly articulated news piece with lots of complexity? You avoided my questions buts that's understandable because your former post about me writing this defies logic. what I'm saying is simple the people of kismayo went and raised their voice about this Kenyan project they are against.
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peasant;952332 wrote: Including the title the whole news piece is made of six sentences lol Dabrow might as well be the author himself. Pathetic Have some shame warya. I didn't write this my English is not that good. Besides are you saying that this pro Somalia demo never happen and dabrow wrote it and sent it to allafrica and they publish it without doing a backround check? Please go on.
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Thousands of Kismayu residents today protested in the streets of Kismayu against IGAD officials, Kenya and the leader of the Raskamboni militia Ahmed Madobe. Some of the demonstrates carried large poster with the writings "Dooni Meyno dollar qaate ,dooni meyno dagaal Ooge" meaning " We don't want the dollar taker, we don't want the warlord" . The demonstrators chanted songs against IGAD, Kenya and Ahmed M. Islam (Ahmed Madobe) The demonstrators chanted along the major highways in the city and finally camped at the hotel which the IGAD delegation stayed. There are fears of civil war in the city as the president of the federal republic of Somalia earlier warned. http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201305190186.html/
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President elect Barre Aadan Shire President elect Axmed Madoobe
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The Somali port city of Kismayo is in political crisis as two former warlords are both claiming to be president of the newly created Jubaland region of southern Somalia. Fears are growing that the rivalry could lead to an outbreak of violence. The Somali government still maintains it doesn’t recognize the two leaders. The political division in southern Somalia still continues after more than six months of negotiations to elect local authorities to govern the regions of Gedo, Middle and Lower Juba. On Wednesday, 495 delegates meeting in Kismayo elected Ras Kamboni militia leader Ahmed Madobe as the president of Jubaland, over four other candidates. But another former warlord, Barre Hirale, who controlled Kismayo for close to nine years, has said he was elected at a separate conference of elders. “In a conference, which was going on for some time, I was elected as the president of Jubaland,” said Hirale. "In that conference 600 delegates attended and 500 voted for me. Because of that I have become the president of Jubaland.” Returning warlord Hirale was chased out of Kismayo by al-Shabab militants - when Ahmed Madobe was a top commander in the group. He returned to Kismayo last month by sea with dozens of loyal soldiers. Abdi Mohamed Yarow is an elder with the ***** clan, which is in the minority in Kismayo. He was present at the swearing-in ceremony and told VOA the elders had appointed Hirale as their president. “Today we were at the swearing-in ceremony of the president of Jubaland state Barre Hirale,' Yarow said. "We have decided to make him [Hirale] our president and we have just done that, he is the president of Jubaland.” Some sections of the Somali population have expressed concerns over the recent threats of violence in the city and its environs concerning this dispute over who should be president. Seeking solutions Ahmed Soliman, Horn of Africa researcher at Chatham House, a foreign policy institute in London, said to avoid a return of violence in the region, both militias from the two rival camps need to be integrated into the Somali national army. “What we are talking about is eventually, militia being reintegrated into Somali national force. That’s a way of stemming potential conflict in the future, but it very much has to come off the back of political process and I do see political process is in complete and it would continue,” said Soliman. He also said that after months of negotiations, people can’t be too impatient. Soliman noted the process will take time, and he said that expressing fears is not the right way forward. “I think there is need to take time, and to asses and to negotiate properly with all the stakeholders. It does seem to me there are a lot of stakeholders involved, and that’s a good thing, and that means it takes longer to achieve consensus,” he said. The government in Mogadishu has expressed concerns about the roles played in Jubaland by some stakeholders, particularly by the Kenyan government. Kenya has been accused of backing the Ras Kamboni leader, Ahmed Madobe, who helped Kenyan forces to liberate Kismayo last year. The Somali federal government has refused to recognize any leadership appointments in Jubaland, deeming the process unconstitutional. A sixteen-member committee appointed by the prime minister to look into the Jubaland issue arrived Thursday in Kismayo.
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I have explain my position about thousand times. I would supported madoobe if he was not on the payroll of the kenyans and found a solution and common ground with FG. President Barre Jubbaland has neither of those problems. Infact he sees kenya as biased player under the umbrella of amisom. Trying to push her own agenda in south somalia opposed to the will of locals.
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