My imagination is riped out. My energy feuled out. My will tired in it Hope remains in ashes Somalians, I say Somalis Refugees, I say displaced See, teach, or reach out. Understand if only possible Restrain your mono-critique voice For Allah will bless you Grasp as socially conscious Achieve the ultimate comeback!

well, u know what they say,Drunks, kids, and the indane tell the truth... seriously though, are somalis louder than others? at least, in my humble opinion, they are unnecessarily.

it happens that i have Jane Austin's classics' collection from the local SuperHouse Bookstore-unmarked books for 3 dollars.

FOR GOD'S SAKE ...LOWER YOUR VOICE! I FIND MY PEOPLE TO BE SPEAKING IN HIGHER PITCHER THAN NECESSARY WHEN THEY HAVE TO...! My roommates(all somalis) are tired of me when i tell them to lower their voices in the library or any where else on campus. I am growing to be sick of that sh*t, and at times, I avoid them knowing that they are too loud.

hasty generalization or hater, my people are loud and abnoxious! they are loud in the library, in the coffe shop and in the Bus! when i raise that issue with thme, i am accused to be afraid to be scared of CADAANKA and all that kinds shit!

Reading maketh a full man; conference a ready man; writing maketh an exact man. Bacon I haven't had time to read but i envy the readers. Writing, however, is my vocation of the moment. keep up the conference!

Ok! Bee, i give up and I will not generalize again to make a rediculous point. You should make a curtsy for my effort to try to enlighten in the hope someone raises a good point.

Hibo, Adventure in Somalia made you in contact with your people last year. I am sure few years in Pakistan will make get attuned to the world.. From now on, I will have to vote for you as the SOL's Global Citizen Person of the Year.

Moderator's sting. Bees Sting harder. Somali Women are then ... I am gonna leave that to the imagination. Why can't you let the brother bring issues bring to light without Bee sting! i am still :mad:

Bee, That really stung. why mock my generalizations? apperantly, u don't seem to get the big picture here. one can generalize in a forum, then wait to hear what others have to say about. :mad:

Thank u gentleman OG. OG-girl, i was trying to make a connection between shifting cultural views of somalis in the US. Mrs/Miss devil... I generally see Somali woman as diversified in nature as the theme of their attire change; i mean the theme. may be my people are more diversely fluid than i assumed. In case, u r wondering why I tried to revive this topic, there was no other topic of mine deserved attention.

Revival of this topic is indeed overdue! this barefaced thruth striked me. Some Somali girls (word Some implies most)are complex species or should i say creatures out of place. Their cultural attire change as quickly as their views, marked by perpelexity of change. i have observed many of my Somali sisters and I am not alone when i say this, there seems to be a trend here. one full of "flip-flopping" nature in fashion. one day the trend is half-veiled, blinding colors hijabs. another day, a designer scarf exposing the neck and a lot more replaces yesterday's formality. Note: what is up with the flip-flopping? i urge more outspoken sisters to not be carried away with emotion? :cool:

You are a victim of turkish securalrism perhaps . i may be generalising. the man was turkish and u r a woman who wears a headscarf or hijab ..so, u r automaically in conflict with public expression of religion as a turkish woman parliament found out when she was kicked out of the parliament and her citizenship revoked for wearing the hijab... http://www.aucegypt.edu/igws/Ozruyek.html

Somali Intellectuals' apathy to partake in somali affairs result single-voiced pundits with limited breadth of the scope to take over in opinion forming forum's, with the exception of this site of course. Believe it or not, I like this site for the simple fact that it offers a venue where dissenting or opposing ideas are freely discussed so long as one displays competence in the "colonial" language and not use "offensive" words. What can I say about the Somali-BBC? I will have to do more research on them. Of course, the Somali Intellectuals are beaten squarely as they voices are not heard, but they are squashed as they are fettered by the apperantly clan-poralized, image-sensitive environment pravalent in the Diaspora, or are we really that poralized? Again, prominence in opinion shaping arena depends on understanding of each other-"conditioned" perception of tribal differences. Somalis for some reason seem to relate to each other that is until we find out our a "natural opposing alliagances or belonging to different tribes. I am nowhere qualified to speak for Somali Intellectuals, afterall, I am still in undergraduate student for 6 full time years. But I have to wonder how many Somali intellectauls are actually reading this or frequent these sites that seem to shape the Somali diaspora opinion. Of course, not many. few weeks ago, I wrote a piece urging Somalis to express their opinions about the recent outcome or revelation in Somali affairs to no avial; The not-so-outstanding revelation of all this: Life is complicated, Somalis are busy. Not just busy. Super-busy. over-extended with unrelated priorities of family and career. And therein lies the problem-somali people's opinions are being shaped by ignorant bunch!

Speak and be heard Please as our opinions are usually influenced by outside sources. Express yourself about Somali affairs. I, for one, always reserved my opinion about politics as there are being formed, changed and though never obsolete in thier thruth. I don't think i would have preferred the New President but i feel obliged to support him (don't matter much since i won't be living under rule anytime soon) for trial-based, optimistic view on him. :cool:

Girl, how many sources did u use.? :eek: what a serious woman. now i am glad i am no physical science major. so we need vitamins to fight malaria right? :confused:

I am sorry to tell ya but she nol molnger with us

you may be bored Ngonge but you sure ain't boring man saaxiib. you prove that boredom is not synonymous with so many dull adjectives. if u ask me you use your time wisely, sort of, to entertain ur fellow nomads. thanx!

Coca-Cola Deploys 5,000 Troops to Somalia By Brian K. White Jul 9, 2004, 02:27 Email This Article Printer friendly page Well trianed in their military campaigns of recent years, Coca-Cola has wisely set their sites, once again, on the wealthy nation of Somalia. Coca-Cola was forced to withdraw their 8,000 peacekeeping troops from Somalia when war broke out in 1989. The civil scene has since subsided and civilians, long thirsty for caffeinated cola, seem eager to embrace the armed forces being provided by Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola, the eighth largest world economic power and fifth largest military power justifies this move saying, "U.S. and freedom fighting coalition forces have long fought to stabilize this region. Now, with national security in the balance our armed forces are well poised to help re-estabish peace in Somalia." While critics have cited the placement of interim prime minister Josef Smithaf (devout Mormon who claims Muslim decent) opening of a Coca-Cola pipeline as the primary grounds for military presence in Somalia, corporate representatives insist their presence is in the spirit of peace. "It's not just because Somalia is sitting on the world's second largest reserve of Coca-Cola, critics need to shut the hell up," says Jake Haffrey, spokesman for Coca-Cola's military division, "The pipeline is secondary, we're interested in democracy the world over. This isn't an opportunistic move, all colas are allowed equal representation. Historically the people have always chosen Coke over the other guys and when Pepsi decides to send missionaries to the region, we'll be ready for a popular vote." Pepsi has faced growing complication in recent years, including third-party vote detractors such as RC, Tab, and numerous local generic brands. Pepsi, whose own military forces are less than half of those from Coca-Cola has not yet announced any new military actions in Africa. Military correspondent Wolf "check me in danger" Blitzer explains that "Pepsi is ill-equipped to take on a land war in Africa. Their tanks are Korean War era, their troops have been fattened by their KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut rations. In fact, the only thing keeping them in the cold beverage war is their advanced satellite network and their popular Pepsi Challenge vote, however slanted it may be. They're still bent on coming out on top so we should expect air strips on [Coca-] cola plants and rebel strikes on the pipeline." More on this story as it develops. courtesy of www.glossynews.com

State of Indifference Introduction Who cares happens to be the norm. Why should anyone care about Somalia? Our forefathers have watched still the raping of the national wealth with indifference in the face, absently aware of their future welfare. Haye! It happened and the thought however disturbing became a reality-the same thought that will eventually haunt them to tiny apartments in the glacial suburbs of the west. They roam around tired, town-malls sipping expressos wearing designer suits paid by low wage earning sons and daughters, yet display honor inevitably undeserving to them. That is the fate of some Somali elders. Many others have enjoyed their retirement in exile in lavish lifestyles. Regardless, a good number of them spent their later years isolated from their homelands. While almost all of those pre/post-war devils attempt to console the nation, they deserve to be exiled or hanged; they should not be rested with the responsibilities nor the eventual consequences of their leadership. Neglected and priviliged sons of the political elites of Somalia alike migrated to the west in search of illusive optimism that is yet to be pinned. Unaware of their fate, they became idle to challenge or to question why are they there on start? Thus, the next Somali leader is born lacking the guidance necessary to lead a nation. the theme in understanding post-colonial era in Somalia lies within the responsive attitude to the global bull-US. Constant disregard of the social, political conditions within the hastily constituted, illegally defined by the colonial powers, mischievious territorial borders disputes played a role the plague of conflict upon my people. The next president of Somalia should be the man of the people with civility entrenched in his bone unlike SIAD BARRE and his PUNDITS

-Leave or let live -Live free or die -Let my [brother] people go -Longeth thou liveth brotheren, uphold the word

Mr.D, we (humans) r racists..so, stop being so sensitive... btw, maintain the status quo life is easier that way! or u'll be yeemin' all the way!

I'm glad u r feeling alright sis..

Ms. Devil, may i point out they were very few cultures in the history of mankind that accepted women having husbands. i think nigeria's ibo did accept a woman to have mulitiple husbands after she gets consent from her husband or something like that...so, you are losing this side of argument by equating them

Aha! rarely we do or done unto Oh! asked in havenly voice, That who I wished for death, For sacrifice if, how to undo Enlighten, touch no harm, as If Envision that may pop warped eyeing miracles' sight unabated Relax as stones sit in kidney.