Alright naxar,u dont have to agree with what i or brother me has to say but as it is,u cant deny or challenge history.The wars happened and we won,its a simple fact.No need to argue with u further on the issue coz til now,u haven't mentioned one war that the ethiopian man won against us.That itself is a probable evidence...

Originally posted by me: Naxar, I gave you a list of wars that the Somalis have won agaist the Xabash, if you have an any brains you will investigate it. Do you want me to recomend some books? Don't even ask him bro,iskaga qor lee camal.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: lx, forget wikipedia, tell me one war we somalis have wan. Aah,it seems that Brother me already filled the dashes.forget wikipedia,the facts me produced is the history of the somalian man,the victor and the blight of ethiopia.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: Somalis has never one a single war against ethiopia for your informationo or dadka ay itobiya kaga degtey. Do u have any other facts than the wikipedia so as to legitimize ur claim?Somalia's history with ethiopia is long and as known,the somali man is the victor.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: you are already a victim, its called ********s. Not yet.The game hasn't began yet sxb but sooner or later it will and we'll see...

Who trains the Ethiopian airforce?Israel does.Who flies their warplanes should war occur?Israeli pilots will.Back to the point,east africa has one israel and thats ethiopia and soon we shall be the victims of the ethiopian aggression should we not change us.Ethiopia will always be an enemy to somalia and somalia will always be ethiopia's enemy.The first ethiopian man and the first somalian man have been fighting since the day they became neighbours and who do u think wins all the time? :rolleyes: Somali man wins.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: RS, there are several things wrong with what you say. Furthermore, i have yet to understand how you and others determine what the "people" want as you continue to speak for the "people". Second, self defense is a right of all. Ethiopia has a right to defind itself from those whose goals are its destruction and with these taliban-like wadaads in xamar, they have a reason to believe they have such an enemy. another, any government of a nation can invite a foreign power to assist them unless the law of that nation forbids it. There is no such law and parliament approved the requist of the government to get such an asiistance. thirdly, we have no border with Ethiopia in the south. who made this border you are talking about? Lastly, any interim government which does not have disarmement of the masses as its main goal is a useless government. For all those here who are making all this fuss about foreign troops, as if the very people who have destroyed the country all the sudden care about the country enough to be offended by foreign troops intering the country, how are people to be disarmed without these foreign troops? Aniga waxey ilatahay dacaayada iyo cadowsiga wadamaden noo so gargarey in laga dayo aya fiican. OK,so u have a problem with the wadaads and u think that they are taliban like,cool.One thing that is said in the above post almost disappointed me for i never expected to see a somalian to claim that ethiopia has a right to defend itself from the sovereignity of his very own pple..What is the threat towards ethiopia but our peace in which we have lost through tribal influences?Men,Women and even little children have been killed for tribal stuff and now that we have a pple among us who say that they are going to lead us and save us from our own evils is what u call taliban like wadaads from which ethiopia has to protect itself.Now that is disappointing.I don't see any harm in international peace keepers for a government needs force but do we need ethiopia? And lets say that the government needs force,who is going to disarm?The courts or the warlords and the mooriyan criminals?The warlords are the government headed by His majesty the king of warlords himself and the mooriyans are his soldiers marka sxb,kuwa larabay in shaqo lagaqabto ayaa rabo in ee ayaga dadka hubka ka dhigan.Meeshan mooriyanti waa laga buriyay,kuwi soo harayna doolada ayee dabada kaga jiraan.And those are the same ones that claim they will make things right.I simply disagree with ur post inregards to ur claims.I hope u see it that way. P.s.Neither do i support the government nor the icu. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Caano Geel: Dear seasoned political bundits Given the situation we find ourselves in, a mini-break down (for the ignorant such as myself) regarding who's doing who and who we should be rooting for/against and most importantly why would be appreciated. Conversion points will be given for: 1. unbaised, non-partisan analysis 2. the persuasiveness of argument 3. getting to the point in less than 10 pages 4. dubious sources will loose points thanks - How about terminating the older generation,lets say those biased old men of over 50..Probably ur father and mine and then maybe our generation could have a say.Back to the point,i think the best any one could do is not to take sides and observe for eventually,the truth is all those old men have agendas different from the ones we expect from them. :confused:

We already have somaliland and is threatening to separate itself from the rest,we have puntland and now a jubba land?Am not gonna be suprised if we soon get xamarland or baydhaboland.Its all useless.Separatists are only disturbing unhealed wounds.Down with them all.Viva a one somalia! :mad:

Originally posted by Oromia: Shukran for the welcome. Right now we need to find ways how Oromos can help Somalis to fight against the Ethiopian troops in Somalia. I belive that is the urgent matter to be tackled. Once the Tigres are thrown out from Somalia we can focus on necessary battles in time. Free Oromia Free ****** Oromia,this suggestion is very important and its up to the Oromos,the Somalis and even the Eritreans to tacke this major aggressor.Actually Ethiopia can be in deep trouble if this becomes the very reality for them for they would have to fight 3 fronts with 3 different groups all seeking its downfall.Am sure the old meles is worried about this issue and is already having sleepless nights. Ur strategy is Cool

Originally posted by Oromia: quote:Originally posted by Maf Kees: Oromo soldiers and officers have to defect from the Ethiopian military first and you have to hand over all your weapons to the Somalis. Than we'll talk. You must be a Tigre or Abdullahi Yusuf's paid spy to say that. Hence, I cannot waste my time by trying to get in to a civilized discussion with you. Go hang out with your likes. But its the nature of the revolt like tactics to first defect from the oppressing army and then taking side with the favoured party.I don't see why any one should be inflamed by such a remark for its only true to say so or even to suggest so.

Originally posted by Nur: L. Xalane But we must uphold justice in our dealing even to our enemies justice is the core of Islam Nur Well explained bro and i agree with everything that u said but am not sure if the part i quoted is legible.To begin with,one upholds his justice with an enemy that is his equal or when one is stronger than his enemies but when one is weak and terribly weak,the best that could be done to an enemy is to terribly punish them beyond even the morals of humanity so as to atleast interfere with their psychology and create fear in them...Thats how i think and thats how any commander dealing with a superior and aggressive foe should be doing and does but islamically,thats another thing.

Originally posted by Yo-Yo Ma: Mr Redsea....Do you see everything in terms of faith. Was about to say the same thing. :cool:

Originally posted by Sharmarkee: Vibe, Any loaded faraax in your neighbourhood? If yes: well then hook-up with him, and if he's Mum tries to intervene punch her at the face. .Educating oneself is one long journey and the principles we attain from it further pushes us to the extremes.Honestly the sisters are struggling these days and soon we might see a whole bunch of eedo xaalimo and habaryar jawaahir being called doctors and other titles.

Sorry to hear about the break up.Damn i can't even count how many times that happened to me but its all sad and painful.Rebounce doesn't help alot and the best way to get over a break up is by concentrating on other things while not ignoring ur feelings and just being normal with the person helps too.I mean not shuting them from u.Good luck.

Originally posted by yasinnomad spear: the zionist did it again....walahi am sick and tired the world looking while 50 palestinians are dead ..80% women and children ....am disgusted...what happened to muslim brotherhood.........the land of jews is sorounded entirely of muslim states .......and none of them are condemning the acts of those bloody kafirs....................walahi i hail..the acts oF hizbullah....they fired 80 rockests into haifa and those zionist were ******* lucky............and congrats to djibouti they said no to being the us base on the so called "operation somalia" djibouti nice move....inshallah muslim unity will prevail...GOD willingly...even if it mean spilling blood for my faith...you bet i will...dear brothers and sisters pray for palestine ..iraq...afghanistan..and somalia.............MAY ALLAH SUBHANNAH WATAALLAH BLESS YOU..TAKE CARE. To begin with,the Zionist state of israel has no right to exist.But one thing that is important to be understood is that every individual has the right to exist therefore do not be mistaking btw a state and an individual even though almost all the jews in israel are haters and are one with their government.Since the establishment of that state,they have been murdering aran civilians in cold blood while uncle sam and the big brother (The british) were protecting it.And now their having almost the whole world as their allies is impossible to defeat them.The defeat of israel is the defeat of the west and those arabs in saudi,jordan and egypt sold themselves to them.I really hate them too but what makes my heart stronger is when i see the arabs doing nothing while seeing their women and brothers being butchered before their very own big eyes.Eventually israel will have its equal.Thats the nature of war.As the moderater said,giving them a reason is wrong even though they do whatever they feel like doing with or with out excuses.

Thats how every somalian should be talking.In either way,they'll lose.

Originally posted by Tenaciousgirl: speaking of kung fu .... if u guys r into that.. u guys should see.. white dragon !! its a good laugh! Ahaha.Kungfu movies are funny..U'll even see pple flying and just the noise they make is just hillarious.

Originally posted by Tenaciousgirl: I thought Ethiopians were attacking our land now they are attacking our minds???? Talk about being stingy !!! Without doubt, I know the SOL members know how 2 inspire themselves but the question is how ???.. so please try 2 answer the questions! By the way …Loving the sarcasm…funnnyyyyy, but u know what would even more funnier?? to Not be sarcastic !! … Now that’s funny and courageous Got no idea as to what the implication is.

Originally posted by Tenaciousgirl: Lieutenant Xalane keep reading this topic.. maybe u will find something that will inflame u I think any one with principles or lets say any one who lives under a code wouldn't need an inspiration.Do u agree?

Originally posted by Urban Legend: quote: i know kung fu which style?

I don't know what inspires me :confused:

I don't know why pple are creating a cult around sheikh dahir aweys.I think its wrong to do that.To begin with he didn't fight in ethiopia alone,and he ain't the only soldier to have been decorated,he ain't the only soldier to have not participated in the inter tribal wars and he ain't the only soldier who is in to religion.According to an audio interview in some somalian website,when asked about his rank he said ''we were those awaiting to be promoted to gaanshale and gaanshale means a major''.Almost in every where,they write that he was a colonel in rank and i dont know why they do coz the man said otherwise.And in that same interview,he wasn't a member of the special forces or the military but was a member of the ''nabad sugida' and said that he was trained similar to the military .Simply,what am saying is,to admire a man is one thing but to build a cult around him is another thing. And getting back to the real issue,if ethiopians invade us,they will only unite us.

So long as these old men live,unity will always be in doubt.Pple are so much loyal to clan than to somalism but its the duty of each and every somalian to support anything that might bring about peace.Ethiopia won't bring peace and peace won't bring itself but the first condition of peace is nationalism,not the qabiil based one.So one could even argue that somalis are few for the majority of pple are in to the qabiil thing.Personally,i support anything that brings about peace and says no to separation.Those who want to separate themselves can day dream for a while. :cool:

Refutations concerning the actions of the islamic courts can be addressed since we have so far seen the things they did but refuting the nature of their cause is yet to be known and therefore addressing that would be immature for alot has yet to be known.