Originally posted by Cambarro: Salaam Xalane "For 16 yrs there was chaos in mogadisho,suddenly a govenrment is elected and holly warriors duck up from all the corners of the city,don't u think that there is more to it than that which is told?Its all evident." Isnt this a bit misleading? If i recall, 14 different govts were elected. None worked. The ICU is a product of those failures. It wasnt just sudden emergence as you seem to imply. It was because those transitional govts couldnt do their job properly. Furthermore i am not hopeful about the A Yusuf leadership therefore i dont see any prosperity under TFG anytime soon. Can you see any other alternative other than ICU at the moment? They have done remarkably well in the very short time they were in power. Just speak to anyone in Mogadishu at the moment. Please walaalayaal, let us not wish a war. U nax ummadda ku nool meeshaas. Anaggu nabad baan qabnaa, quudkeena qiil nagama galo. Salam Cambaro, Of all the Elected governments,u say that they didn't function,true to that,but u forgot to add why they didn't function and from whose side thing's didn't function.Xamar,it was from Xamar that things didn't function and it was in Xamar that things were going terrible.Didn't it occur to u that after they have exhausted all the things they have done to dismantle the elected governments,that this recent attempt,under religion ofcourse,is their latest and most desperate attempt?And one other thing that many pple ignore,who are the fighters of the ICU,aren't they all the men commonly known to as mooriyan who are either with them willingly coz they have no other alternative or isn't it that they are the same moriyans who defected from the warlords that were previously in effect?As of the pple of Mogadisho,they have a right to speak good about the ICU for yesterday,multiple forces were eating them and today only One force is eating them up.Think about it.. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Femme: WHAT HAPPENED TO S.O.L IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU REALITY CHECK! PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SHOW UP ONCE IN A WHILE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF FUN TOPICS WHILE NEVER SEEMING TO CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING WORTHWHILE. :@ YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. HOW DARE YOU COME HERE IN MY TURF AND INSULT ME LIKE THIS? ASK NOT WHAT S.O.L CAN DO FOR YOU BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR S.O.L. YOU LITTLE APE. That goes for the rest of you too. Y'all make me sick - I'd been having more fun if I hung out at the morgue. Amen.U just made my day.I wish i was like u though,i shouldn't take Shit from no one innit?

Originally posted by Femme: lool@ throw the jew down the well.... P.s.Femme,ur fancy fans are angry at ya,they want ur old avatar back :mad:

Raadamir,somalia was doing fine during her years,the only problem was that there were revolutions that didn't have plans after their revolution.

Juje,there is no theory at all,just accounts that happened.There is one doom in this scenario,and that is the civil war itself.All nations have had theirs at a time,and they all got past that with the out come of their final wars.Yesterday there were multiple Captains in the Field,Today only two stand at the Final and their out come will be the conclusion of all the years that were wasted. Juje,how many folks have died in the last 16 yrs for nothing,sir?Wasn't that shar?Sharta Ilaahay waana soo mootiyay,inta hartayna in aad saas usii badan ma aha.Think about it..

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Some great points apart from let the 65% perish, thats a great price. Somali's are all we have their lives should matter. We are a small nation and we can not lose any of our population. I care not for millitias or armed men, but who dies in wars like ours? The children, elderly, women, the weakest in our society. Commander Duke,Whole nations perish for the cost of peace and no number counts for poverty,diseases and tyranny will sure kill alot more than a single event of war would.Pple were dying for the cost of tomotoes every day in xamar,Why not die for the cost of their peace as a nation?Imagine if all the pple who died in Xamar un necessarily died for the sake of peace,as of being victims of this war we are speaking about.Wouldn't they have died for something worthy atleast?

Originally posted by HornAfrique: [QB] ^In some ways it is comparable. In 1991, the USC ally Cumar Jees was snatching people out of their houses and shooting them at their front doors. Now his counterparts are snatching people out of hospitals and shooting them while a large-scale military campaign is being engineered from Mogadishu in a replica much like that of the USC's. Deja vue? In war,all things happen but shooting pple while taking them from their homes is nothing new to the ICU.They have done it before so what would stop them now?Do u remember the time in mogadisho,not long ago,when the former somalian officers used to be assasinated in Xamar and no one knew the cause and who was behind it?That is now answered by the ICU,they were terminating all future threats.

Originally posted by OLOL: If you still believe those past legends, General Duke, I will pray for you . You are of the old guard who only see things through clan lens. Your hatred and animosity for the clan of Sheikh Hassan, Indhacadde, Abdiqasim is a deep-rooted one. Only Allah can heal you and make you see your Somali brothers as brothers. U got it all wrong,many of those pple's u mentioned like dahir aweys,indhacade and so forth,they get support from many who are from Col Yey's clan and many who are from dahir awey's clan support Yey.Its all about politics and what u think is of ur interest.The old legends u are talking about is a dead one,they even don't exist in books these days.As of the Question of clan,who is in to tribe and clan issues these days?Its the old men sxb.U got it all wrong...All wrong. For 16 yrs there was chaos in mogadisho,suddenly a govenrment is elected and holly warriors duck up from all the corners of the city,don't u think that there is more to it than that which is told?Its all evident. As of the men,men like Allah Ubahne,who use ''islam'' in every situation,don't they know that there will be many who use religion to serve their personal interests or is that whenever a fake drum is beaten,all dance to the tune?Personally as of Xalane,what i want is an all out war,Let 65% of the current population perish if need be,but the answer to the whole problem lies with the out come of one War and who ever wins,surely will bring peace back to Somalia.The rest will eventually take care of its self,even the seccessionists will in time find reason in their rotten minds...Again,u got it all wrong.All wrong..

Originally posted by Tuujiyee: Waraa khalaf kaalay saaxiibo ileen magacaan bilaash ma ugula bixin..loool.. sidaas lee iskaga khalaf sanoo..looooooool khalafoo yahoo..loooool.. khalafka eh..loooooool...

Originally posted by Khalaf: quote:Originally posted by Lieutenant Xalane: Khalaf ,heedhe now its u who misunderstood adeer.Gabadha is asking about the reactions sxb,how u react to them 'uncovered women' since in one way or the other,u would have to interact with them. This is gonna land me in to trouble,i already can see an incoming fire. What I am talking about is society and solving its problems-in this case sexual violence against women. Islam unlike christianity believes ppl are inherently good, and it is satan that deceives them. To protect against satan Allah has told us what rules to follow. Its natural ninyahow to be excited by women-men were created weak nooh. That is why Allah has said the women should cover themselves, we should lower our gaze, women shouldnt travel alone, not be alone with women, and we should marry early, ect. This solves problems. Um out. Good day my ppl. [/QB]Abtiyow kheyr Allah hakusiiyo.Runbaad kasheegtey arinta tani laakin gabdhahayaga garina magasho mana kabaxdo ee waxbo yeesan nadaalinin.

Originally posted by Khalaf: [because we are not those whom the Quran describes as those whose hearts there is a disease. But there are sick dudes that is why Allah has prescribed hijab for both men and women. Preventive measures. Agree with it or not, that is what the religion teaches. Khalaf ,heedhe now its u who misunderstood adeer.Gabadha is asking about the reactions sxb,how u react to them 'uncovered women' since in one way or the other,u would have to interact with them. This is gonna land me in to trouble,i already can see an incoming fire.

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Xalane , I can't believe you're presenting your immature sexual fantasies as arguments! Ouch!

Originally posted by Khalaf: LX you are missing the point sxb, the women are talking about accountablity about mans actions. Men are accountable if they commit crime woman has no blame, she is not shamed, its not in her power and the sucker should be hanged-period. But there are sick ppl in this world as the Quran says: "those in whose hearts their is disease", thus islam sets guidelines. Brother Khalaf,as of the accountability of men's actions,its very clear that the blame belongs to the aggressor but even so,knowing that there are men out there who would do anything so as to get what they want,and the fact being that women know this,why not cover themselves up and avoid the chance of the risk?Why take the chance bro? and by the way,doesn't rape fall under oppression and illegal sexual intercourse?True,any Sucker who forces himself on a poor woman should be liquidated but my point or opinion rather,was about ''covering themselves up',so as to atleast avoid a probable risk.To my opinion,the sheikh was misunderstood or maybe he used the wrong approach and thus resulted in his message coming out in a way that he might have not intended to,but in either case,he too (the sheikh) knows the punishments of a rapist.That is not in a doubt bro.Khalafow,that being that,we have on the other part some women saying or rather claiming that the women have a right to clothe themselves as they want,that women should walk around with their red thongs with out being bothered.Who wouldn't bother them? Its that ,that am kinda opposing.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Now you did not say you was Ajuran [pardon mr moderator] If you are sure say so, because in SOL we can search past threads?? Brother Duke,those folks that Alle ubaahne claims to be from are hostages of Dahir awey's familiy's as of historically and whenever they are asked about what they are,then that is when they claim they are from that ancient dynasty from kalafo.If Alle Ubahne is truelly from that family,then why are his pple pro TFG?The dude is abusing that Kalafo pple,he aint from there ee haisa sheego hadii uu isa sheegid ubaahanyahay. Alle ubaahne,leave alone pple's history,and let ur folks leave alone pple's history.

Originally posted by Paragon: Beyond what the sheikh has said, do we dispute the fact that a half-clothed woman doesn't arouse a man? If everything is functioning as they should be,one should be aroused instantly.No man would leave a hot babe alone,if one doesn't do anything,one would atleast bother her with some lame line or something.I mean its natural.lol

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Xalane Really? Your verse prescribes something, it doesn't assign blame or the punishment of rape if it's not followed as far as I can see. It doesn't let men who rape off the hook and it certainly doesn't speak for non-believing women. So what exactly does it back up for your opinion? Koran: 33:59"O’ Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their veils over their bodies. That is most convenient that they should be recognised and not be molested. The above ayah shows that the hijab protects women from rampant desires of men and their attempt of molestation since the woman's body is covered and nothing would be stiring the men's desires coz they wouldn't see nothing.U can't want what u can't see coz u don't know whats behind there.Take that as another approach if my other approach wasn't enough. What is the Moral Principle behind the veil?why were women ordered to cover themselves up? They were ordered to do so for their own good,to protect them against the evil desires and afflilitions that they might sexually be subjected to and by having the veil,women would be 1.saving themselves and 2.saving some one else from committing a sin. It's that simple.Simple in all aspects and yet Women would ignore hijab when infacts it sheilds them from everything. P.s.The koran was sent to all mankind and to the jinn,so anything in it Generally refers to those two beings.By the way,Who would leave alone a Hot chick with a Fancy bikini?Or who would leave alone a hot chick that got dazzling boobs like Tyra banks?

Originally posted by Valenteenah: ^LoL...guess that's another way of saying you can't back up your opinions. Alright then. Lol,thats another way of saying my opinion is backed up by a verse but am kinda trying to be nice.

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Xalane, there is also a reason why men are told to lower their gaze. If a woman doesn't follow Islamic rules, it's between her and Allah. It's not your job or the mufti's job to deem her worthy of rape. Valentiinah,true that men should lower their gaze,true that its btw she and Allah inregards to the observance of rules and it ain't my job to deem those concerned as worthy of a rape but my comments are based on my personal opinions just like u and as they say,every one is entitled to hisher opinion.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: May you die a heart-attack in an Islamic state and then go to Jannah, aameen! An other Evil omen from the Chief Hypocrite.Somebody should silence this fool.

Passion,Jobb well done.

Originally posted by murefu: i dont mean to criticize somali women but for real it exist among you guys, it is like you living in imagination boggling? when you see somali man whom u dont know u simply change ur condition, there is something wrong in you that makes you overact someone you are not.something that deviating you from ur normal condition, there must be something i can't understand..are somali men causes this deviation, or you living in imagination boggling..or most of u going to be mad... Murefu bro,there is a saying in afsomali that goes like this ''hadii ee ku diido diid,hadii ee kuyeeshana yeel''...After that,the 'suuro' thing is out of the equation. :cool:

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: You really need to die, sister, because you are no benefit to our society. Dude,u are either a retard or some devil is possessing ur wicked mind and in each case,ur evil omen is pathetic and uncalled for.

Koran:[24.31] And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful. There is a reason why women were told to cover up themselves,otherwise would they have been told to?As of what the sheikh said,its absolutely true,Women are responsible for their problems since they do not adhere to follow the sacred advices given to them.Each inch of a woman's body is a treasure of which every man would want a share of.

Femme

He seems to be popular.Very popular infact.