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Originally posted by Kool_Kat: Bless your parents and parents like them! You have to know, it is because of what they taught at an early age that you turned out the fine young man you're today...After their hard work in raising you to be a responsible adult, know right from wrong, had you still choose to lead a life of violence/drugs/crime, then that would've been on you! But in this case, that is not the story... One has to wonder how a family of five children could one be shot dead and another be in another country facing jail time for drug charges? A lot of things aren't adding up! If this mother worked hard (and I am not saying she didn't), she should've left that neighborhood for the sake of a better life for her children...Furthermore, there was no father figure in the home...In the video, Iman mentions that their father wasn't in their lives...So a single mother, working (as she claims), raising five kids in the projects of Toronto, this family aren't revealing the true life their children led...You also cannot stop to wonder how does Iman consider a drug dealer to be her friend? After all she claims a friend purchased the tickets with no strings attached! Even more so, why didn't the mother question her 19 year old son where he's getting all of the money he had... In my books, if you dress like a thug, walk like a thug, talk like a thug, hang around with thugs, YOU ARE A THUG! Wrong place at the wrong time can only work for so long...Blaming on friend? C'MON!!! There was so much wrong with the picture this family painted for us on so many levels, indhahana in nala tiro aa larabaa...The highlight, for me, was when the reporter says "let me play the devil's advocate"! Wey laheshay... Parenting isn't something that ends when your children reach a certain age...It is an ongoing process where parents make mistakes just as their children, but learn from it and try not to repeat...HOWEVER, parenting isn't turning a blind eye when your child, regardless of age, is leading a dark path and still aad u sii sacabyo tunto!!!!!!!!! Had this family said, yes Abdinasir did his share of wrongs, BUT DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE, walahi I wouldn't be talking this way...But to try and cover what's in front of us, doqon maa madaxa iiga qoran? :mad: I share your sentiments, but there is only so much our parents can do. You mentioned this was a family of five, why haven't the other three followed the path of those younger than them? Do these problems affect a certain age-section of the new generation? Really, if my younger brother were to become a drugs dealer, me and his other older brothers could guide him to the straight path through lectures, or discipline him by beating him up, but would he listen? Would he listen to my mother and father? What if he said he stopped, but continued in the shadows, and then ended up killed, how could we have prevented this? My mother and father certainly wouldn't be the ones to blame. If someone is determined to follow a certain path, despite all the advice you give, no amount of family love will make them change their mind. I agree though about teaching them important moral codes when their young, and their minds are like a blank canvas ready to absorb anything. Maybe the introduction of drugs-education at Duqsi-class would fit this role.

Originally posted by Aaliyyah: Adam I agree with you that Somalis need to set successful after school programs for their kids. However, there are already many after school programs in place they don't necessarily have to be set up by somalis. True, and in this discussion we shouldn't ignore the many people like the lady in the video who provides free dinners for unemployed Somalis, or the coach who keeps the youth focused on something productive. I think however these programs need to upgrade themselves to a higher level in Canada. In Holland the adult Somali men would establish Film marathons on fridays and saturdays in community centers. This kept 90% of the youth away from the town centers at a time when its very busy. This also kept them safe from bad influences. These guys would also organise trips to amusement parks giving us a real sense of a community. So again it is the somali parents to blame when their kids simply are free after school and most of them don't even get involved in any after school programs. Making them have too much time in their hands that most of them don't even know what to do with which pushes them to hang out with the wrong crowd and then who knows start dealing and what not. To tell you the truth I have always been an explorer, I will give you two examples; from the time I had a small bike at the age of 6, I left our frontyard and rode from one town to the other, sometimes I panicked because I got lost but then I found the way back. One time I really outdid myself and ended up in the middle of nowhere, I knocked on a house and the Dutch farmer and his wife let me in and called the police, who called my mother. The entire time she and my brothers/sisters had searched for me in the different neighbourhoods and parks of the town we lived, evendo I was like twenty miles somewhere else. Example Two: When I was 14 years old me and a group of Moroccan friends took several trains to the other side of the country, we walked through the malls, ate at McDonalds, went to the Cinema, ate Kebab etc and then ran back to the station. We had missed one of the trains and so had to wait till morning. I arrived home at 9 the next day. My mother's eyes were red, she hadn't slept the entire night. What exactly could my mother or father have done in these two examples? Many times she had forbade me from going that far, but did I listen? No! Therefore if during these two examples I had dealed drugs or I had killed an innocent person how could anyone blame my parents for something I did?, and something that is out of their hands? They can't chain me to the bed and call it a day. With that been said I agree with most of what you said like when you said that you and me can change any day. But, I am not here to talk about the few individuals who were raised well and despite that turn out wrong. I am not even here discussing abdinasir or iman's story. But I am talking about the general problem that somalis are facing abroad you just can't tell me they were all raised well and just by chance they all changed? ....That is just not the case. salaam [/QB] As I said before, Somali Culture needs to be strengthened, if you look at the Indian and Chinese diasporas they have created strong unified sub-cultures involving festivals, music, fashion, films etc largely because their homeland is stable, so you rarely see a Chinese or an Indian wearing baggy jeans or adopting drugs culture, however the problem in Alberta is not a 'Somali problem' its a Canadian problem, see the Homicide capital Manitoba, 57 people were killed in 2009, also note that Alberta is last on that list and has made the biggest dip in gang related deaths, so there is an improvement there.

Aaliyah, if you watch the video you will notice Abdinasir and Iman have the best parents you can have, his mother is determined to succeed in life, doing multiple jobs while studying to become a nurse(which she did), the video says that Abdinasir had that same drive, clearly his mother raised him as best as she could. Take also note how the father the moment he heard of his daughter's predicament took a plane and paid for her bail, they don't seem to be the kind that neglect their children on purpose. Fact is; when the kids become adults the onus is on them to call their parents and inform them of their daily life. It would be insane for these hardworking parents to simply stop their own lives and chase after their kids going to different cities or countries, that's simply not possible. Yes our parents raised us well, but you and I could switch everything tomorrow if we wanted to. We could start piercing ourselves, cover our skin with tattoos, hang with the wrong crowd, deal cocaine, have lots of unprotected sex with multiple partners, visit every club we see, get into trouble with the law etc, and there is nothing our parents could do about this, and it would be unfair if anyone did blame our parents for this. Its self-discipline that prevents this switch. The real solution to this problem is setting up successful after school programs, and creating a system of Somali students graduating from high school and guiding them immediately to Universities and from there on to paid work. Keeping them busy and focused. I think Somali culture needs to be strengthened aswell, a contemporary version that appeals to these kids, one that is hip.

Blame the parents? - why? The men who died as a result of dealing, were grown men and had a choice. Plenty of times from the age of 13 to the age of 17 shady men offered me 700 euros a week if I sold their stash, I said no thanks! Throughout that time my allowance was 2.50 / 5 euro a week, and still I had no interest in dealing, plenty of poverty in my childhood too; playing with 80s toys in the 90s, no lunches, chocolate bars always split two ways, sharing of clothes, and STILL NO DEALING! Teach kids from early on the destruction these evil products inflict on the people they sell it to, and no amount of temptation will seduce them. Teach them also that hard earned money gives one more statisfaction than 'easy money'. My mother from the age of 9 woke me up at 6 AM seven days a week and had me join my brother on his paper route, this hard earned extra money lasted longer and felt better than the one time I stole 100 euro from my father and got sick on chocolate and candy with a girl from Duqsi class. Don't get me started on those two poor girls who will be locked for years in a Kingston prison, my heart sank when she said her father cried! That rebel attitude and delusional concept of freedom has taken them nowhere. Some need to realise their fathers and mothers are not their enemies they are their allies.

Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: Kalay yaad la hadlaysaa? Ma waxaad ii malaysay Ian Macky mise ‘the Earl of Shaftesbury’ – (niman) cadaan ah jaahilnimo indhaha kale baxday oo midna awoow’yaashiis sawiradoodii u malayey tariikhda bini aadanka iyo mid intuu ayad Quraan ah Buuga Jaamac ah kala baxay, haddana dhahay waa figrad cusub oon annagu la nimid.“Noble savage pornography” kulaha - Mataqaan horta meesha kelmada ‘noble savage’ ka timid iyo fikrada ka damaysa? Haddii aad ka mid tahay nimanka mad-maddoow ee daba taagan ama fadhiya ninka nuuraaya – caalaacal iyo candhuufo hayla soo aadin. Nimanka kale nah soomaalinimadooda reer keliya ha ku soo koobin. Badana waxaad qorto ama soo qarifto oo halkaan ku soo dhejisid waa wax macquul ah weeye – aan ka ahayn tii aad qortay ee ahayd “bisha munaafaqnimada” oo aad ku afla gaadeysa bisha barakaysan ee Ramadaanka. Marka saxiib ka fiirso intaadan wax aaddan aqoon iyo cilmi ulahaayn la soo booddid aad igu dhahdo indhaha kala qaad. Kala baro dadkaad u khudbayneysid – waan kugu raacsanahay in aad magaca Soomaaliyeed marwalba kor u qaadid – balse, kala garo kuwa magaceena hoos u dhiga iyo kuwa uu baahan tariikhda saxda in la baro. Waxaa maahmaah iyo caado inoo ah in – “Soomaalidu jeclayn in runta la isu sheego’ inkastoo aynu runta ku maahmaahno. Soomaalidu xadaradoodu waligeed ba degmooyin iyo qabiilo bey ku ekayd – ila ey gumaystayaashi tageen – dowladnimo iyo wadannimo midna iskuma lahayn saxiib. Balse tariikh qadami ah waaligeen ba waa lahayn iyo waxa kalo oo aad sheegtay ba – inkastoo ila tahay in aan – baaderi (that is priest to you) wax lagu faano ahayn – dhaqanka iyo afka soomaalidana ka mid ahayn. LOL, Mudane Duke of York, saas la ka raba, ruunta isku sheegno wa fiicaantahay sxb, adiga wayee ninku oo na la so keenay sawiradaas meesan, sax? Markii aniga gumeysiida madaxda adi sii fiicaan ka kiciiyay, waad igu xanaaqtay(war kac waryaa), awww halkee ka xanuuniyay? Wa iska caadii, warkeegii ha maqlin, dhib ma leh. Lakiin cugoow dadkeena iyo dhaqankeena wa ka weyn yahay tobban waranlehs ama tobban dhabodhaliifs. Tariikhda Somaalida ma tabankartiid iska iloow, qalinka Qabiil wax ma ku sameeniikara xita, qofkii aqli heesta wey arkii karaan waxii ruunta iyo waxii been, markaas fadlan iis welweliin sxb, waxna ma ku tareeso. Dowladnimo iyo wadannimo dalka Somaaliya wa ka jiirtee, 'Barr-as Sumal' la dihii jiree dalkeeno, waxaas ka horeysa qarniiyo badan tariikhdii Talyaaniga iyo Ingriis. Xita maalintaas Soomaalida wey isku imaadeen iya hal nogdeen, dagaalka Darawiishta saas ugu bilaawtay, Somalinimo wa midnimo wa wadannimo. I know the Somali language is not your strength – so just in case you do not get any of the above things I said to you – I would advise you to know who you are talking to next time- and since you do not know me - let me enlighten you a little. Well all I saw was a mentally enslaved individual who gladly switched his rich history for noble savage pornography, you have now come back stating an ulterior intention for this topic, I have a feeling my wake up call had a thing to do with it. BTW Don't think for one minute that you intimidate me by speaking in Somali and lecture me about Somali history, I have a Somali mother and father too, I know my mother tongue, I know my fatherland. ps I'm logging off and going home, don't expect any replies to your next post soon, which is probably built around a small typo of mine. They are simply words on a screen, they will still be there when I return, iis deji.

LOL @ this 'noble savage' pornography, wake the F. up, Old Somalis had magnificent ancient metropolises with multi-storey houses, had fortresses and castles, had the sail, had the compass, had gunpowder, had disciplined armies, had culture, had literature, had religion, had art, had a nomadic lifestyle, had a sedentary lifestyle, had a coastal lifestyle, had relations across seven seas. You reduce all of this to a clan warrior or a lackey and ask me which one am I?, when I could be a poet, a scholar, a merchant, a soldier, a artisan, a mason, a writer, a nomad, a farmer, a priest, a sailor, a Sultan.

Originally posted by *Ibtisam: ^^LOOL! I think I need to go back to being Xanthus at that rate. A Greek male/horse?

That's Queen Ranavalona I, she fought hard for her country, very admirable.

Republic of Burco President Ibtisam Minister of Defense Sayyid Somal

The world sabotages the country The country sabotages me Me and the country sabotage the clan The clan and I sabotage the family The family and I sabotage my brother/sister I sabotage myself. sick of it

"Somaali baan ahay"

How will they prove their ownership when there is peace? Did you know that at one point the UN tried to play ignorant of Somalia's EEZ, because the documents detailing this zone disappeared during the civil war? If such a global organisation would try to play the game of denying a whole country its god given right because of lack of proof, why wouldn't these new owners do the same in this case?

I'm not sure anything they discuss there will have any positive effect on the ground, infact anything discussed in the security council will no have positive effect on the ground. There are two juggernaut cancers in the South, one is Al-Shabab and their Foreign supporters, the other is TFG and their foreign supporters, neither provide a viable solution. The conflict in Somalia has to many pros than cons for different domestic and foreign actors to compromise and actually come up with a solution: - Regional countries feel comfortable with the current situation, a stable Somalia would throw the entire political landscape in East Africa on its head, many of these countries also use the Somali conflict as a way to hide the instability in their own countries. - Piracy allows for an international presence in the busiest shiplanes in the world. - Pirates are making a killing. -Terrorist organisations believe they have found another region from where they can base their operations. - War profiteering businesses would die out. - Religious warlords are lining up their pockets with cash from oil-rich sympathisers. - Somalia's weakness allows for the influence of a new extreme religious environment previously unknown to the country. - Secular warlords are lining up their pockets with donor money, and are living the lifestyle of the 'Rich and the Famous' with a trip to a new exotic country every week or month. - Fish consuming countries would lose the immense fish stocks they plunder from Somali waters annually. - Instability allows economic predators to make shady oil & maritime deals with corrupt regional & transitional actors. - A stable Somalia would see Somali businesses stop investing in neighbouring countries, and considerable flow of capital would be gone. - Regional countries awashed with donor money and medical supplies intended for their refugee camps, would see that tap closed. - A stable Somalia would make this region strategically safe and many regional countries would see themselves become irrelevant to the State Department and their military hardware donations shrink since the current patronism by the US would disappear. Somalis with wealth, skills and patriotism made the mistake of waiting for the South to repair itself in the last two decades. If they had carved out only 35km in the South, somewhere in the Ras Kamboni area in the 1996 - 2005 period, they could have built a small stable state with a new planned city, that would have acted as a cure against the instability, this all-inclusive state would slowly expand and include more regions overtime. They could have easily have done this since the original warlords were less regional, less powerful and more small fry compared to the current crop of secular and religious warlords who are exploiting every avenue from foreign troops/fighters to multi-million dollar funds to defeat one another, the conflict went from several hyenas fighting in a cage, to a group of Elephants fighting on a Somali grassfield, the civilians of course being the grass that is stomped flat. This new state would have been a bulwark against the Al-Shabab, and its intellectuals and private sector could have put pressure on the corrupt TFG. The million civilians that are displaced would also have an alternative place to flee to, instead of in the arms of vultures, they would be in a stable environment. With the growth of this state eventually it would evolve into a powerhouse and all of the demonic actors holding the civilians hostage today would be forced to bow down and accept the new order. Nothing unrealistic about this, the people who organised Galmudug succeeded, the people of Puntland succeeded, and the people of Somaliland succeeded in carving out their territory and bringing some sense of stability to their citizens. Sure, such a project in the South would face staunch opposition for the reasons I outlined in the above list, but in the 1996-2005 period the chance was there.

I find this type of war profiteering very disturbing, unless there is somekind of an agreement where those fleeing today are allowed a chance to buy back their properties when there is peace, meaning; he can only rent the houses but not sell the property to another.

Qarxis There is a new sensor in place Marx, its better that you come back as a girl again and take Rudy's number for a second time LOL

Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all Broken hearted to the "lost and found" is where this King crawled Time healed the heart and he rose confident and tall Into the magical world of the Telescope he went with his right eye Still full of anger was this new conquistador of the Sky Endless thoughts ran through his head, the most prominent being; why? She was a vicious Queen with a mighty Kingdom of lies He was just a bet, a simple trophy price The Queen wanted him back but she wouldn't fool him twice He put his belongings on a large ship and said goodbye One day you will realize there is no difference between a King and a fly You hurt either one, and your innocence is gone until the day you die.

Welcome!

late 1990s/2000s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War

LOL, they are pushing him into that position, he said that himself: AP: Is it still hard for you to break into the American hip-hop scene because you’re not rapping about rims? K’naan: It was very hard. And it’s easier now but it’s still hard. It’s easier now because Jay-Z likes me (laughs) and Nas calls me great on YouTube videos. ... But sometimes I’m very tempted ... to take on that world in that language, in the language of the streets. ... Some artists actually really want me to do that.

I want my Pearl back DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!

I noticed these pics of Grozny, on a different Somali forum I really disgust, it is/was without a doubt the most war wrecked city since Warsaw and Manila 45', remember this?: but look after a few years of calm and regeneration/construction:

Originally posted by Hales: Why create a thread about her post if shes obviously a troll. Behind the line please, behind the line!

He is married to Deqa, a pharmacy technician. They have two sons, born in 2005 and 2007 - WIKI

AP: How do you instill Somalia in your two young boys since you aren’t there? K’naan: It’s kind of hard to do that. They learn important values from me and their mom (who is Somalian) ... which I think is culture. But I think to get the complete package, to get the complete feeling, they’d have to live in Somalia, and at some point I hope they can. -Full Interview I didn't know he was married and had two kids.