"Xaq uu leedahay" That term needs to be terminated from the Somali language pronto!

Watch your back because the next man is coming And you don't know if the next man is dumbin Survival of the fittest what it is I got yo back, you got my back and that's the biz Blood is rushing through my veins I got the power channel the energy And with my strength I will devour Sickening thoughts are running through my head That's when I realize I'm glad I'm not dead Corruption and abuse, the salesman of our blood For the public's craving, existence in the dark It's in our nature to destroy ourselves It's in our nature to kill ourselves It's in our nature to kill each other It's in our nature to kill, kill, kill It was a dream and then hit me, reality struck And now my life is all shifty and it all moves fast Clost to buck 50 and we all stand strong In respect to the family in times of our insanity And through the words of profanity I describe our dysfunctional family Blood Brothers keep it eally to the end Deeper than the thoughts tha you think, not a trend

THE STRUCTURAL RECONSILIATION by Eric Tranchefeux

Topic for beautiful works of art: City of Twilight by Jason Engle

Humming bird;687145 wrote: Chimera- Im asuming your a sis, Good guess. interesting..Not much into such but would probably take interest in scifi written by a Somali person..can we expect some from you in future? Yep.

Ha!, we live in the deep shadows, there's no way you can find us. I do feel sorry for Sum1notSomali, he called the Godmothers "pariahs". You know he's dead.

It is true, the Somali Female Intelligence Service(SFIS), collects data and shares it amongst its global offices. Therefore everyone will know about you, from Minnesota to Mogadishu, from Bosaso to Brussels, and from Hargeisa to Honululu. They are extremely resourceful with a long list of potential targets whom they are capable of striking or humiliating from any part of the world. They have been known to challenge the Illuminati in the West, and are currently wrestling for dominance with the Red Turban Society in Asia and Africa. There is a secret ceremony held every four months known as the Buranbur, where the Godmothers of the SFIS attend a Somali venue, usually a wedding, because this is where the bride is initiated into the SFIS through the sacrifice of the groom. An important display of loyalty, as she has given up her newlywed husband to claim a seat in this highly sophisticated organisation. The poor groom and his male relatives, are neutralised with powerful sedative bullets, before being stripped naked and laid bare on the stage in front of the Godmothers, who are allowed to eat the purest parts of their bodies, such as the kidneys, the liver and the brain. When the Godmothers are finished, the blood and the fleshy leftover parts become the domain of the undercover SFIS agents dressed in colorful Diracs, who then lick the red water flowing from the dying young males on the stage. The main Godmother then presents to the bride, the heart of the groom. The man whom she loved dearly, and who had treated her with kindness and respect. This ceremony solidifies her entrance into the SFIS, and she is granted agent status. You might wonder why am I so informed about this organisation, including all the little details? I have been researching the SFIS ever since my good friend Guled suffered the fate of a Buranbur ceremony, I was present at his wedding, probably the most beautiful one I had ever attended, but the fact that I had drunk more than two liters of Vimto and Fanta the first hour of the wedding, caused me to leave for the rest-rooms. When I returned all of the music had stopped, no cheers, no laughs, just complete silence with a domineering voice echoing through the mainhall. I had become a witness to an ancient ritual dating back to the era of Queen Araweelo's reign in Somalia. I was horrified by all the blood and gore, but I was also frozen with fear, all of the beautiful sisters whom I had danced with earlier had transformed into wretched looking demonic creatures, now circling around my friends like vultures, and like vultures their noses could smell even the smallest scents, therefore a fat chance that my Dolce Gabana men perfume I had so lavishly spreyed on myself earlier would escape their senses. They saw me looking through the little window of the door, and descended upon me like a wild horde of hyenas, but I was too fast for them and had succeeded in reaching my car outside. Several jumped on top, but we went from 0 to 60mph in less than 5 seconds and a quik look behind me was enough to see their bloody faces kissing the tarmac of the road. Their screams of disappointment went through my body and send chills down my spine. I'm part of an Underground force known as the "Sons of King Wilwaal", we will continue the struggle and illuminate what paid critics have dismissed as a mere conspiracy theory. My advice to you is; do not enter in a relationship with a Somali woman, most definitely don't seek to marry her (as she will sacrifice you like a little lamb), and keep conversations with her short, for anything longer than "hi", will see you end up on their mega database supported by several massive IBM Blue Gene supercomputers.

I thought the new update would grow on me eventually, but everything feels so packed and forced; big fonts, lots of bolding, can't customize my avatar, can't change my name. I also don't like the "Latest Blogs feature" since 9 out of 10 topics is some trivial stuff about either Somaliland or Puntland that could easily be redirected to one large topic. The old forum was simple yet so welcoming. "You don't know what you've got, till it's gone"

There was no Indonesia, there was no Ethiopia, there was no India, there was no Malaysia, there was no Sudan, there was no Greece, there was no Algeria, there was no Nigeria, there was no Pakistan, there was no Eritrea, there was no Kenya, there was no Zimbabwe, there was no Philippines, there was no Israel, there was no Iraq, there was no Belgium, there was no Germany, there was no Ukraine, there was no Libya, there was no Kazakhstan, there was no Bahrain, there was no Qatar, there was no Senegal, do you want me to continue this little dance? Somalis had states larger than modern Somalia at specific times, the majority of the countries I mentioned above never did. Another important point is the concept of nationhood amongst Somalis traditionally being different from that of the Europeans. Somalis have always viewed their own lands as a Civilizational Matrix that was theirs: They passionately disdain central authority. Yet they view themselves a community of people who belong together, have a common heritage and a common destiny for the future. So prominent a feature is this sense of community in Somali society that it prompted one scholar to insist that the Somalis 'had been for centuries one nation, professing one religion, speaking one language and pursuing a single pattern of pastoral nomadic culture when the Europeans arrived and carved them up. - Partitioned Africans pg 161 The idea of a unified Somali country is a Somali project through and through, which was supported by Somali politicians, armies and civilians since the Dervish period all the way to independence and beyond. This is plain history and something nobody can take away from us. If you think history is your friend in your bid to discredit the idea of Somalia, then you are mistaken, there was never a Kenya or Ethiopia in control of NFD and SomaliGalbeed in the days of our ancestors. Surely if you lobby for a return to a pre-"Scramble for Africa" Somali World aren't your efforts better served campaigning against the imperial crimes of the past that saw the ceding of Somali lands to neighbouring states, countries that never existed in their current shape or form? Spare me the propaganda!

It's BS, for the British to be able to report that 1/3 of the male population perished, they would have to know how big the male population was for starters, which they didn't, since they never conducted a census, because 1) they did not control the interior until the 1920s, and 2) the population wasn't static but moved around in the Somali Realm. This, together with the camel-raiding nonsense etc, is just another form of discrediting the valiant Dervish period who btw had no problems allying with the Somali groups you mentioned.

Muriidi on steroids, haha!

Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Legacy by Eric Van Lustbader, pure awesomness, not to mention since the post-live adaptions of other titles, now in my mind the lead character "David Webb/Jason Bourne" is Matt Damon, so it feels like i'm reading/watching the Fourth Bourne film. When I finished that one, I plan on reading City of Dreams and Nightmare and its sequels by Ian Whates, I love the whole concept behind it: They call it the City of a Hundred Rows. The ancient city of Thaiburley is a vast, multi-tiered metropolis, where the poor live in the City Below and demons are said to dwell in the Upper Heights. Having witnessed a murder in a part of the city he should never have been in, Tom, a lowly street-nick, has to run for his life through the City Below, Thaiburley’s unsavoury basement world. Accused of committing the murder himself, he is pursued by sky-borne assassins, Kite Guards, and agents of a darker force intent on destabilising the whole city. His only ally is Kat, a renegade like him, but she proves to have secrets of her own… Sorry no Somali titles here, none so far have managed to capture my imagination. I'm into Science Fiction, Fantasy, Supernaturalism, Thrillers, and Historic romance, since i'm basically an "escapist". Somali authors have let me down, I wish there were stories involving young Somali men and women going on a Quest, or struggling with Aliens, or dealing with creatures from Somali Mythology, or solving mysteries. There is however a Historic Romance novel by a Somali Author that i'm going to purchase pretty soon; Ignorance is the enemy of love by Faarax Maxamed Jaamac.

Continuing; Had Somalis not allowed themselves to be fooled by foreign powers and instead as one unified block had supported a local Somali power like the Dervish, the O-gaden and its important haud region would be part and parcel of the Somali Realm, same with the NFD and Djibouti, the British according to Winston Churchill were ready to leave, the Italians had an immense fear of the Sayyid and believed he would invade the Italian coast with fifteen thousand men, the Ethiopians refrained from going further than Jigjigga, indeed Somalis had lost a prime chance to exert their sovereignty over their ancient lands through the Sayyid. Had the Turks been as stubborn as Somalis, and not followed Kemal Ataturk, they would have been swallowed up by the Greeks, the Bulgarians and the Armenians who were supported by the British and French. Instead they all put their weight behind a local Turkish power and eventually achieved a strong Turkish State. In any case, the Dervish have given the generations that came after them a strong legacy to be proud off. How shameful it would have been, if they had never risen to such international stature and prestige. Imagine having to read your own country was conquered with little resistance, that would have been such a disappointment, but instead the Dervish unleashed the longest colonial resistance war in African History, an African power that survived the scramble for Africa and outlived WW I, only to be defeated by a new form of technology; aeroplanes. Any self-respecting Somali not shackled by the system of clan would feel a warm feeling inside them everytime the Dervish defiance is mentioned. I certainly don’t care if they punished individuals from my so-called “clan”, heck the Sayyid punished more of his own clan than he did any other. He showcased a form of self-respect and defiance that one can’t observe today in any of the leaders in the Somali peninsula, who suffer from a severe case of myopia and lack the vision the Sayyid had for the Somali Realm. .

Ayoub brother, i’m well aware of Sayyid’s connections with the Salahiyya movement, I however fail to see how this discredits his Pan-Somali vision or his rich legacy on multiple levels. The rulers of Ethiopia had connections with the Coptic Church of Egypt, before Henry the VIII the Kings of England had connections with the Church of Rome, nevertheless their domestic and foreign policies was to advance the interests of Ethiopia or England, similarly Sayyid did not take orders from the Salahiyya movement or their leader. He made relations with the Ottoman Empire, the German Empire, the Sultan of Yemen, the young muslim King of Ethiopia etc and in the process was advancing Somali interests. Interests, that were repeatedly trampled upon by the so-called “protector” powers who spat on the promises they made with Somali elders by sidelining them in secret agreements between Britain, Ethiopia and Italy! Before the Dervish none of the encroaching powers respected Somali claims, they were considered a sea of muslims that needed to be tamed. Sayyid Abdullah Hassan gave us a voice, he gave us respect both in Africa and around the world. He turned what was considered a “no man’s land” into the “land of Somalis”, and from then on all powers knew there would be repercussions to the mistreatment and general theft of Somali traditional lands. They achieved recognition of a Somali State by foreign powers, a significant feat considering at the time 99% of Africa was under foreign rule. It’s irrelevant that the Sultan of Yemen, Germany or the Ottoman Empire had their own agendas, their interests did not clash with Somali interests. They provided us with arms, with political support and masons to built massive Fortresses (from Yemen btw not Germany). That the Dervishes were Somali nationalists is not even a subject of debate, this is an agreed upon fact amongst the doyens of Somali Studies, so there is no need for me to defend this. If to the participants of this topic, clan transcends nationhood that’s okay, but it won’t alter the Dervish Dream, if your view of nationhood is not one of a Greater Somali State but limited to a specific region, that’s okay too, but again it won’t change the Dervish Dream, if you sympathize with Al-Shabab’s “Chile to Somalia” imperial plan, good for you but the Dervish Dream is still the same. The silly comparisons to the Warlords and modern militants are a non-sequitur. In Dervish times, there was no Somalia recognised internationally through which they could enter into a power sharing agreement. Al-Shabab today if it wanted could enter into negotiations with other Somalis and establish a strong Somali State. In Dervish times foreign powers were literally trying to own our lands, this is not happening today, despite the intense foreign meddling, which could be purged out if Al-Shabab were to sit down with the other side, and make the foreign presence unnecessary and obsolete. The Sayyid’s relation with an Ethiopian monarch being similar to the one of a Warlord with a Ethiopian PM is illogical. Firstly this monarch had turned into a muslim, and aligned himself with the Dervishes, against powers such as Britain and Italy, therefore understandably he became an important ally, one who could be convinced in relinquishing claims on Somali lands. None of the modern lackeys have shown this type of statesmanship, nor do they pursue the interests of the wider Somali world. The looting of Camels was mentioned earlier, on the part of the Dervishes, yet the well known historic fact of how these same entities that were looted were doing the exact same thing to other clans was conveniently omitted, from Winston Churchill’s own words; Replying to his critics on 19 January 1908, shortly after his return from Africa, Churchill challenged them to refute his facts. They could not deny that friendly tribes, armed by the British, did indeed raid their neighbours with these weapons. - The Warrior Mullah pg 75 The situation therefore was far more fluid, than one of Dervish aggressors and their victims, these so-called victims were themselves aggressors who killed plenty of people in their raids. No power however has ever looted and stolen the wealth of Somali herders as Menelik’s massive armies had inflicted upon them before they were neutralised by the Dervishes: Gradually, enclosed within Ethiopia as a result of the colonial "shareout" of the 1890s, the O-gaden was encroached upon by armed Ethiopian soldiers before the turn of the century. In 1892, the British Consul for the Somali Coast Protectorate reported that: a large Abyssinian expedition has returned from the O-gaden bringing with them as booty thousands of camels and cattle and property of all descriptions. I hear from other sources that they have devastated the people .... Many people are dying of starvation and an epidemic said to be cholera, but which may be "starvation fever" has broken out, and carried off numerous victims daily.... This state of affairs is attributed entirely to the conduct of the Abyssinian soldiery who eat up everything. In 1901, Captain R.B. Cobbold accompanied an Abyssinian expeditionary force across the O-gaden. The following selections from Cobbold's diary suggest what he witnessed throughout his three month sojourn: All this cruel and barbarous treatment which the Somalis undergo at the hands of the Abyssinians and which, being unarmed (thanks to the British Government) they have to endure without a murmur, will some day react on the heads of the Abyssinians. Some day a reckoning up will come, and with the Somalis armed the possibility of the downfall of Abyssinia would be within the range of practical politics. For the Moslems who would rush eagerly to arms to exterminate their hated enemies would run into huge figures. And if ever a war was popular, this one would be so; I think even women and children would, if permitted, gladly risk their lives in so righteous a struggle. - www.oocities.com/halgame_2000/history9.html Notice the helplessness of the Somali civilians, there was no one willing to intervene on their behalf, not the British, not the Italians, nobody! Enter the Dervish and see how Somali dignity was suddenly restored: In 1900, an Ethiopian expedition which had been sent to arrest or kill Sayyid Mohammed, looted a large number of camels of the Mohammed Subeer tribe of O-gaden. In answer to his appeal, Sayyid Mohammed attacked the Ethiopian garrison at Jijiga 4 March of that year, and successfully recovered all the looted animals. This success emboldened Sayyid Mohammed and also enhanced his reputation The Dervishes destroyed the blockade of firearms that the British had imposed on Somali herdsmen that wanted to defend themselves from the barbaric Ethiopian raids. After their victory over the Italians the Ethiopians acquired a dangerous view of themselves as being “invincible”, and with nobody to squash that view, they began their expansion into traditional Somali lands, but again it is the rise of the Dervish that restored the ancient fear the Ethiopians have had of their Somali neighbours since the time of Ahmed Guray, despite their boasting of imagined victories: " 'The Abyssinians, it seems, fear the Somalis very much. I have never seen men so afraid as they are now; they have given rifles to the children to show they have troops here" - The British Vice-Consul at Harar The insinuation that the Dervish were solely responsible for the death of Somalis in the early 20th century is just a Victor’s version of history. They never inflicted as much damage on Somali herdsmen as the Ethiopian armies had done, they never inflicted as much economic damage on Somalis as the artificial borders that cut apart our centuries old Civilizational Matrix by multiple foreign powers had done, nor did they tax Somalis at the ports they controlled, the way the British did. They never initiated a policy of arming several clans and allowing them to murder and raid other towns the way the British and Italians had done. Indeed the Dervish crimes pale in comparison, yet the revisionistic pen of history wants to convince us that they were the ultimate bad thing that happened to Somalis? What exactly happened after the collapse of the Dervish State? Traditional Somali lands were ceded to countries that never in their history controlled those areas. Traditional leaders were banished to exotic islands. Somalis were conscripted in wars they had nothing to do with. At independence Somalia was forced into multiple wars, that eventually led to today’s situation. <O:p</O:p

Xaaji Xunjuf, Khalid5, Estanaio(sp?), Emperior5 etc, you are well known in the Somali Internet World as a prime-clannist, there is no point in discussing history with a person whose mind is locked by a petty system.

Saalax;685047 wrote: Chimera. The SNM punished the collaborators of the dictatorial regime of siad bare and not just random people. Sure, sure, which is why the "Butcher of Berbera", NSS officer Riyaale Kaahin was punished and sentenced to death for the killings of innocent civilians in the North. Oops!, my mind must have been in some kind of a alternative reality, as the man became president of Somaliland.

AYOUB;684999 wrote: [Another important point is; the Sayid M C Xassan did sign a treaty with the Italians, which mocked by one poet with the famous line Ma Talyaanigaasaa mahdiya tanina waa yaabe . Is that not what some consider selling out or collaborating? That's not collaborating, that's a smart tactic in warfare where you are enabled to replenish your ranks and rearm your military. Keep it in persepective; the British launched four major military expeditions against the Dervish , which they repulsed, and remember that one such British expedition saw the conquest of Ethiopia and the death of its ruler Tewedros II (if the British wanted to colonize Ethiopia, they could have easily done so then). The Sayyid simply used this treaty to import weapons through Illig, which is why a few years later a revitalised Dervish force was back on the scene. He however never paid tribute, never allowed any of his troops to assist either the British, Italians or the Ethiopians, hence he can't be a collaborator. Also your comparison with Al-Shabaab is a fallacy. The Dervish are legendary for having had a Pan-Somalist dream, the Shabab have an Al-Qaeda agenda, the Dervish were funded by local Somalis who believed in their cause, the Shabab are funded by wealthy Saudi devils, The Dervish did not stone victims, unlike the Shabab. The Dervish were all-inclusive with members from all major clans and they had no problems co-operating with other Somali entities, Al-Shabaab sees everything as non-muslim Somalis and muslim Somalis. The Dervish fought their enemies far away from civilians in the open plains and bushes, on the other hand the Shabab throw mortars in residential areas and inspire backlashes from the Barbaric foreigners, which is responsible for the death of thousands of civilians. The Dervish left behind a rich architectural legacy, the Shabab till this day have not constructed a single architectural marvel. Apples & Oranges. To the deluded Xaaji Xunjuf, the Dervish were far from finished, they would build one of Africa's largest Fortress Complexes in Somalia, and many more across the Horn, they were respected worldwide for their resistance against European powers, they had representatives in Berlin and Istanbul and were recognised by these empires as a country in East Africa, and were a regional power to be reckoned with, Whether its forcing the British for the first time in their empire's history to retreat to small coastal enclaves, to establishing schools across the South, or Dervish troops going to Yemen to assist the Ottoman Pasha. The Sayyid despite dominating the O-gaden managed to entice the future King of Ethiopia to become a muslim, he made plans with the Germans who would recognise any territory he were to conquer in East Africa. He was creating a strong Somali State, ten years before Atta Turk would in Turkey, but the British for the first time on African soil employed aeroplanes, which saw the collapse of the Dervish State. This still wasn't the end of the Sayyid, he was regrouping and would have returned to re-establish the movement if he had not fallen ill to influenza. Nevertheless he was never captured and therefore spared the humiliation of being a captive like the great Omar Mukthar of Libya, who was paraded around like a piece of toy.

LOL your comparing a Somali power that fought multiple empires, including the British who brought military equipment and soldiers from across their empire; Boers, King African Rifles, Indian Regiments, RAF etc to one of the dozens of Somali rebel groups that fought a dying and weak dictatorship? The SNM committed plenty of crimes, atleast the Dervish have the excuse of punishing collaborators friendly to the British and if this included ancestors of mine, more power to them., but who exactly were the many Somali civilians mowed down by the SNM collaborating with/ and friendly to, as they themselves took shelter from Siad Barre's foreign planes?

Positive;684289 wrote: The country we now call Somalia had a dominant culture with the above characteristics when Islam came to the Horn of Africa; The advent of Islam introduced to somali people a new way of Life which has been in opposition to the most if not all of the values in the traditional way of Life. This opened the gate for a major transition of the Somali cultural values from its indigenous roots. From that time on there was no longer homogeneous culture in the country! That was a good post, I completely agree with the fact that peace can't be enforced, that is basically an artificial form of peace that one can observe in other African countries, best example being the military dictatorship; Ethiopia. However I can't agree with the part of your reply that I have quoted above. You are insinuating that Islam is not compatible with us as a people, culture or country, and that this religion is the reason why the conflict is still alive. That's untrue, Islam has always been compatible to the Somali way of life. Everytime there is a war raging in any random country, intellectuals and outside-observers start to dissect the culture of that country, the values of that country, this happened in China in the past, this is happening in Somalia today. One look at Somali history however will show you that Islam was an important factor behind a people numbering barely a million, at one point dominating a landmass in Africa half the size of the Roman Empire. Islam gave these same people links with new worlds that allowed them to set up a seaborne trade enterprise spanning multiple oceans and seas, sustained by a vast civilizational matrix in Somalia consisting of more than 40 port cities and inland cities where education was promoted, where different professions flourished. This was a time where our image and reputation around the world was one of a land where an important muslim people of commerce lived, a land of mystery and intrigue, a land where many renowned scholars originated from, where powerful soldiers lived, where many traders and sailors returned after doing business in these faraway continents. Indeed Islam was a great thing to happen to the Somali people on multiple levels, it allowed us to maintain a seperate identity from the Imperial kingdom of Abyssinia, always interested in creating new Abyssinians out of different ethnic groups. It created a buffer against the influences of the European imperialists who descended upon Africa since the 16th century and literally created new peoples observing new religions and speaking alien European languages at the expense of their native languages. The strength of our ancestors' faith and language is what prevented such a scenario from happening in our case, which would have resulted in even more division amongst our people. The collapse of the Dervish movement and the eventual neutralization of other resistance groups allowed the Imperialists to commit a heinous crime; they divided our Realm between different powers, and in the process cut through the centuries old civilizational network that connected the entire Somali peninsula. The Somali Republic was set up to fail from the moment it gained independence. The giving away of Somali territory to countries who never in their entire history controlled those areas, forced Somalia into a diplomatic war, it forced Somalia to adopt militarism and build up its military. Despite this Somalia was one of the finest countries in Africa and the Muslim World, from education to economy to women rights, Somalis have shown they could maintain a great progressive country when it wasn't forced into a war due to Imperial mistakes, if Somalia wasn't forced to waste money and manpower on wars, we would be where Malaysia is today, only with better beaches. In 1991, we as a people committed national suicide when we toppled a central government without a strong alternative entity to replace it. Somalia in its geographic location is by default NOT ALLOWED to committ such a mistake. It's this particular mistake that is behind the current conflict, not Islam. This mistake opened the gates of powerful foreign influences both distant and regional. It's this mistake that has turned our society upside down with different competing factors trying to change our values, our culture and even our religious school of thought. Those sinister actors from both the West and the East with their bad destructive influences are the real threats to our traditional values. Our historic observation of Islam has nothing to do with this. If Somalia were to suddenly be blessed with a strong army of young Somali men and women that purged out all outside influences, and restored our beautiful country to her rightful place, you wouldn't be questioning this religion. Instead you would recognise the positive influence it had throughout our long history on the Somali people, which a few clowns calling themselves the "Youth" can never change or tamper with. The real roots of the Somali conflict goes back to the "Scramble for Africa", the Somali conflict started BACK THEN, and has seen throughout this century different Foreign and Somali powers come and go, the conflict shifted from the North of Somalia to Somali Galbeed, to the NFD, to the Somali Galbeed again, to Somalia proper and more specifically; the South today. The conflict has been ongoing throughout that time in one form or another, and will continue when peace arrives in the South. This is because of the Somali Civilizational Matrix being as connected as our many vital organs are in our bodies. A person with a bad liver will be sick, regardless of the fact that he/she has a perfectly stable heart or a well-functioning brain, only when the entire network of organs are in optimal conditions, can you say this particular person is healthy. We will never be a healthy prosperous people so long one part of our ancient Realm is oppressed and mistreated. The Turks figured this out in the 1920s, the Chinese did too after a massive loss of life at the hands of foreigners, and one day we will too, Insha-allah.

Habby New Year. Its 2011 today, I still remember 2001 like it was yesterday, pretty soon it will 2021, before you know it, it's 2041, then 2071, and then we are all probably dead. :cool:

Aaliyah I might be one day, though probably 0.01% of his fortune lol.

^LOL Still can't get over the fact how Somalia back in the day was predicted to eventually become the first African country with a female head of state. How far we regressed.

I'm more disturbed by the fact that I can't change my name, now I feel so dirty, like i'm wearing the same T-shirt all month, i'm supposed to be Cowboy Bebop this month dammit!! Also i'm beginning to lose the "non-entity" status I used to enjoy.

Abtigiis;683992 wrote: Chimera, I usually don't like to disagree with you, but you are wrong there. You can date a girl for 6 years , and her family might not know about it. But I have my doubts as to the authenticity of the whole story. It really doesn't happen these days. Waa laga ilbaxay wax oo dhan. I once dated a girl who said we have to wait until her sister is engaged, and I waited for sometime, everytime the girl was promising after two months ayaa loo soo fadhiisanayaa, but the guys changed their mind somehow; so in the end, I tabled an ultimatum. Pretty disturbing if you can date a sister for 6 years and their family are ignorant of this. This would register in my mind as a girl that's not really valued by her relatives, for none of my sisters would be able to pull that off considering how paramount the family is in their lives, and word would eventually reach our ears, probably within a single month. I doubt I could date a girl for 6 years and not feel the urge for her to meet my family, and me eventually meeting her family. I guess i'm old-fashioned.