NGONGE, yes that was a clear cut hissyfit, a temper tantrum indeed. Let's not kid ourselves you have been doing this for a while now, and I told you before that I don't need to be psycho-analysed, nor is it your duty to put my feet on the ground from the so-called stratosphere of my dreams, in fact you have no right, no matter how much respect I have for the old NGONGE (I don't recognise the new one). I posted the topic as is, without a single source, because it was never my intention to spark a debate. This was plain "drive-by posting" on my part. I don't know whether you've noticed, but my contributions to the politics section is next to nothing, because I don't enjoy that chesspool, and prefer to do a drive-by post every once in the blue moon. However in the last couple of months, every time I drove by the politics section you've put an isbaaro on me with a myriad of intellectual questions, huh? That's like having a science debate in a sewer, dude I'm not interested in long-winded debates, nor am I interested in winning people over. That was the old me, with lots of energy, lots of spirit, lots of hope, who went under a different monniker and always came with statistics and studies, but this is the new me who couldn't care less about winning debates or arguments on the internet, but since its you I'm always forced to honour you with a reply. Therefore the whole "you don't know the system of auditing'' was a strange claim to say the least, because this was about an organisation that did not comment on the original discovery ages ago but found it necessary to publish a new report on the eve of a major conference about that same discovery as if it were new. How convenient! Neither did they mention the year 2011 after the anti-corruption measures were initiated, and that my friend is "selective auditing". That was my point, and there is no amount of explaining the protocols or proceedures of that organisation that could change my perception that it was plain "sabotage", I know the World Bank's shady history in Somalia's economy, therefore I am by default biased against them, and so they enjoy no good faith with me. I posted that, and I had no other intention, but who dropped an isbaaro on my path of escape from the politics section for the umpteenth time? NGONGE did!! What makes you think anything about the conflict is RIGHT? This conflict is the most absurd thing I have ever seen in my life, to think when I was playing with Ninja Turtles and power-rangers action-figures almost two decades ago, these fools were fighting, and to see them still fight as my little nephew plays with the modern Pokemon toys of today is MADNESS! I absolutely do not want to see my children or even my nephew to experience this mind-boggling absurdity of time and space when they're my age. This in many ways is Somalia's last chance, and nothing should rock the boat because another decade of retarded pointless war and the people there are finished, finito. Is it really that hard to understand why I could tolerate a few unpatriotic danyeers to steals scraps, knowing the absurdity of the conflict and why it must come to an end for the sake of our people? Is it really that hard to understand why I panicked at this "convenient" report that could have damaged Somalia's chances for reconstruction? Is it really that hard to understand that I do not enjoy political debates because win or loose, it will not change the situation on the ground? The situation however is finally changing for the better, but there are many that will loose out in Somalia's rise from the ashes, and the little minnow officials stealing some scraps are the last group I'm worried about, they're a by-products of war, whose significance will diminish with peace. You see, a country can have corruption and still enjoy peace, but a country can never enjoy transparency or accountability while still at war, that scenario is only available in a peaceful environment, and that is the only goal - for now - we should be focusing on. so stroke as many beards as you can I say!

grasshopper;838266 wrote: I can only go to sleep in the freefall position but wake up a starfish - the starfish description is more me than the freefall one though - I don't see myself as brash Freefall is messed up. I love hugging my barkin, but after a hour or two in that position I wake up with my arms paralysed, and a few seconds later I can feel the blood rushing back into my hands, which is weird as hell lol.

That is the lamest analogy if I ever heard one, your relative's command of "knowledge" is alot more complicated than accounting, one makes your brain grow for a reason. Nobody asked you to comment on this topic NGONGE. If I want to share my personal interpretation of a suspiciously leaked report coinciding with a major event than I have ever right in the world to do so, this is an internet forum not a PHD thesis. There were no billboards inserted in the original post with the signage NGONGE PLEASE REPLY, so spare me your attempt at psycho-analysing me, and the baseless claim that I don't know the process of "auditing", which you can't even deduce from my post in the first place. This is about an old report being recycled at a time of a major conference for reconstruction funds, that in my opinion is tantamount to sabotage, because we know Turkey is on board, but what about Switzerland, what about Malaysia. what about Denmark? Such a report at this particular time could scare them off, and how is that beneficial to Somalia? You can't transparently spend reconstruction funds that aren't pledged, so how would this report benefit Somalia? That was the original intention of my post. All this "you should contact the World Bank about the report" or 'internal/external' auditing stuff you mentioned in that reply is neither here nor there. In fact its irrelevant. The World Bank does business with various African governments who embezzle billions on a yearly basis, and business continues as usual, yet for some reason this same organisation feels the need to investigate and release a report about a government getting back on its feet at the time of a major conference? Yet you dismiss this as conspiracy? LOL I'm not Captain Somalia, this topic has nothing to do with my dreams. I'm being realistic here, Somalia will not be corruption free overnight, not even with the anti-corruption committee currently in place. In fact there was never a period in Somali history where a government was 100% clean, so why should we focus on these missing scraps that could derail the big prize of long-term stability which will result in billions worth of infrastructure and saving of priceless lives? Let these few daanyeers stealing money keep lining their pockets for as long as they stay committed to ending the transition and bringing in a permanent government with its own strong institutions. The likes of Farmaajo learned the hard way when you clean the boat too fast, you capsize, so this has to be a long-term process, where the war-economy is steadily replaced by a more sustainable economy that benefits all groups including politicians and the citizens. You guys are too idealistic, there is corruption even in the west in both government and business, with entire economies going bust, cut Somalia some slack as it slowly recovers, it needs all the major funds it can get, and little scraps can not be the undoing of these potential plans for reconstruction.

Exactly, that's what annoyed me the most. It shows what kind of a predatory organisation this is

Hargeisa is a beautiful feminine name, and I would definitely propose that name if Allah (swt) ever blesses me with a daughter.

NGONGE, you're taking the piss, and are arguing for the sake of arguing. I have relatives that run businesses sxb, I have seen their paper work and their audits are done annually, and never back-dated further than that unless its actually necessary. In the case of the TFG, the recent report is old news, and is being recycled by the World Bank, because they are well aware of the fact that the original discovery was made by the Somali Anti-Corruption Committee, not an international organisation, and that this same anti-corruption committee has tackled the issue. Secondly with regards to foreign donations, that issue has also already been delt with through a joint-financial board, where the donor-countries will be in control of where their funds go to on the ground. Therefore the World Bank is clutching at straws and whipping a dead horse of an issue.

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1. When I'm waiting for a late night call. 4. After training arms at the Gym. 6. Ahhh relaxing. 7. Bad dream, bad dream!!!

Ibti, thanks. I'm thinking ahead, no immediate plans lol Wow so the encounter with the Dr is not banter but for real? That's pretty disturbing, hope he gets whats coming for him.

Ibti, what's the price of a medium size shop in Hargeisa?(rent/buy)

Weakling.

Torn between frustration and envy, one aid worker in Nairobi said Turkey had "cut all the corners we cannot cut", but that its achievements were making others look like "fools". LMAO! It's absolutely heart-warming to see the disgruntlement of the Nairobi maffia towards the superstructure that is Turkey aiding Somalia. The Nairobi maffia succeeded in making sure none of the money they claimed in the name of Somalia went into the superstructure of the country, be it infrastructure, healthcare or education. Their time is up, neither they or their paid lobbyists can stop the positive structural reconciliation of the Somali Republic.

A mod should clean this topic from the pack of hyenas. Ibti, this is not the SOL of old, be cautious.

Well written article. Somalis don't respect their own ancient genetic code but prefer to be a b@stard race with their silly myths, they don't respect their own common history but prefer petty clan-tales, they don't respect their own nationhood but prefer little fiefdoms, they don't respect their fellow Somali, but prefer foreign mediation. Ofcourse some third-rate columnist of Gypsy origins that fled Eastern Europe for Canada 60 years ago will have the audacity to take a dump on Somalis, because there are plenty who will welcome him with open arms. Notice how nobody is trying to discredit the Malaysians or Malaysia, why is that? They got their house in order that's why.

Definitely, now we need to capture that Somali sentiment, bottle it in a factory and export it nationwide.

I always found this dabo wareeji global culture uninspiring, and quite frankly disgusting. I would seriously consider dumping a woman if she were to ever do that in my presence. Degrading to say the least. Btw, back in my parents day Somali artists were the bomb, their sounds were contemporary and cool, but todays crop is meh compared to the old ones. We need a serious update in quality.

^Doing something nice for another Somali, doesn't make you a good person perse since you did it for kinship reasons; now me carrying the heavy bags of an old white lady is definitely me being a good person. I also don't think personal anecdotes are sufficient to proclaim a 20 million + people are good or bad. Somalis are a people with a lot of potential to be good, and could be in a position to help other nations and peoples with their country's natural wealth and resources, however there are certain characteristics and cultural habits that render all of the positives obsolete, such as qabiil and our inheritant fatalism, where we are willing to sacrifice our country/children's future just to reach a political goal, This trait is good in a business environment, but in politics its suicide.

Personally I think you went down hill after your Queen-Araweelo days. LOL

^The defender of the Somali Oil Industry. I retract all my statements in this topic, the oil has to be drilled and exported as fast as possible. There is no time, the region is shifting into a new Gulf region, and Somalia needs to be the King of this new era.

Wow, man that's too much white, such an eyesore. This only works in desert-like environments (which Somalia isn't despite the common perception that it is) where the white colour blends with the beige colours of the landscape surrounding it. White and green don't go well together. This is my ideal house in Somalia:

Somali culture is a static culture, as a result of two decades of no advancement in the entertainment sector. Fact is Hasan Aden Samatar of the past and the new artists of today singing in Somali are lame in the eyes of Somali youth, their clothing style is lame, their moustaches and hair-styles is lame, everything about them is LAME. Hence they would rather emulate other cultures. This is why I welcome with open arms the likes of K'naan, Mataano, Amaal Nuux, etc who are rising on the world-stage and fuse contemporary culture with Somali culture and draw hundreds of thousand of Somali youth into a distinct bubble, which one can see forming steadily on the interestingly compiled soobaxblog. We're also ignoring the elephant in the room; Bob Marley was big in prewar Somalia, but nobody spoke like him, why is that? Displace a lion-cub from Africa and put it amongst piglets, and it will grow up thinking its a pig. So to the sister in the video; booyakah shah, galang bout yuh business mi galdem, and gwaan go maas!

^Grammar-moryaan.

NGONGE;837192 wrote: Chimera, you may have a point and this conspiracy theory of yours may be correct but, the money is still missing and the finger of blame should be pointed at a government that can’t account for such vast amounts of missing funds. As for the timing, I believe it to be perfect. What better time to reveal such news than when the Somalis are sitting down and planning how the next stage in Somalia’s development should look like! No I will not blame the government of 2011-2012 for something a different administration did in 2009-2010. There is an anti-corruption committee in place for two successive cabinets now. Secondly Somalia is steadily rebuilding its institutions, its pretty disgusting to see such a global organisation nitpicking about scraps when they were and are blissfully ignorant about the billions that went missing in Nairobi. The conference is important, for this will affect our infrastructure on multiple levels for the next two decades. Think of roads and highways, think of power-plants, think of reconstruction of the capital, think of funds for Somali institutions like the army and navy, think of investment in the economy, healthcare and education, think of upgrades of Somali ports. The World bank is trying to sabotage of all of this, because ultimately they want to be the ones to loan Somalia all that reconstruction money with poisonous funds.

This is a step up, hopefully they will continue this practice of chrome & steel in Somali cities. Hargeisa and Bosaso are 19th century establishments, there is no widespread ancient architecture with which various post-modern styles would clash if they were to be constructed, unlike say Mogadishu, Berbera, or Merka. Therefore I would like to see more examples like Maansoor Hotel. and the above mall in the city. Electric cables should be placed in the ground as well, not a good look. GaroweGal;837121 wrote: No point in having a nice building with a crappy fence It's under construction, this is common practice.

Probably at their website, but I don't read propaganda, my topic is based on this article