Carafaat this is your most homo-erotic topic YET! At least there is some honour in dedicating a topic to a sister that doesn't want you, but to create one for a mad-man, and then talk about who has the "longest" of anything is truly WTF lol, and worst of all you made that same mad-man your clan-chieftain kkkkk, why not a chimpanzee while your at it....lololol.

Somalia possesses great potential to become regional star, envoy says ISTANBUL- Hürriyet Daily News - Ali Kayalar Somalia has potential, and this is not limited to natural resources, says Kani Torun, Turkey’s envoy to the country. The country should never face hunger, he says Somalia bears the potential to become a shining star in East Africa if the country can maintain peace and stability, according to Kani Torun, Turkey’s ambassador in Mogadishu. However, this potential does not derive from natural resources alone but also its human power, Torun told the Hürriyet Daily News on the sidelines of a Somalia nongovernmental organization meeting earlier this week. “A big human potential also lives in the diaspora,” he said. “And they are hardworking people. I believe that Somalia may even become a donor country, not an aid receiver, soon once it overcomes political and security problems .” -- Link Everyone but our leaders understands our potential, what a waste.

I can't post the link, because I think it would break SOL rules, and I don't want this topic deleted, but the one published in New Zealand is very promising. Are there similar journals or magazines in other countries/continents? I know that Somali-Eye Magazine used to profile graduates and accomplished Somalis, but that's really it,

This makes you guys mad? We see on a daily basis cheerleaders here defend the islamists, the warlords, the pirates whose actions has resulted in a million + deaths and the erosion of our dignity, but the words of a single woman has your blood boiling? LMAO!

Aaliyah, Abu-Salman basically said all I had intended to say, but I would add that there is a big gender misconception with regards to a son or daughter and their relation with a specific parent. To most boys the most stabilizing force in their lives are their mothers, not their fathers, and for daughters its usually the other way around. Therefore the absence of a specific parent can a affect a child in different ways. A child that wants to be with his/her friends cannot be stopped forever unless the parents take drastic measures, and in the end that will only lead to that son or daughter running away from house. Therefore how can a father have quality time with a son that rather hangs with his mates? How can he make him stay at home, through force? There will be a time when the son grows stronger than the father, and then what? For some curfews don't work, in-fact it will only infuriate them as they get clowned by their peers, and that's really the biggest issue a teen faces -> peer-pressure; to get the same clothes, the same gadgets, etc in the easiest way possible. This is why I believe a contemporary Somali culture that captures these teens through music, films, tv-shows and other popular mediums is desperately needed. Through that new Somali culture we could desseminate important Somali values such as respect for your elders, doing well at school, working hard for something, the beauty of our deen etc. None of that exists today, hence they are all caught up with what comes out of Hollywood and Defjam records. Somali families at this moment can't really choose where to settle because they go were the jobs are. There are examples where Somali parents worked hard to their raise their sons well in one specific city for most of their lives only to see them killed in a different city because they went after jobs but instead got caught up in the local drug-trade(Alberta) and there are many examples where Somali parents did leave dangerous areas in cities like Atlanta and settled in smaller towns only for every other Somali family to settle there as well.(the flight from the civil-war is an even better example of our parents trying to give us a better chance at life) Gentrification and strong community centers are better solutions which can be seen in Minnesota.

What happened Aaliyah, are you alright, is everything okay sister? That's the biggest post I have ever seen you write in the more than 6 years we've been here. It's too late now here in London to tackle that beast of a reply above me, and just looking at it makes me sleepy, insha'allah tomorrow I will reply in kind lol Good post.

Which is why you can have in a family a disfunctional son or daughter yet several other siblings that succeed in life, and they all had the same parental upbringing, or lack thereof. Enough with the excuses, millions of kids in Somalia with a billion times more disadvantages are turning into bright young men and women, yet we are trying to understand why kids in first world countries can't stop dealing, or dancing in clubs because their father didn't hug them enough? Pfff......

At a total of 200 volunteers, these youth are high school and college students who grew up in Mogadishu while faced with civil war and the threat of al shabaaab. After shabaab withdrew from the city, some of the young people from different districts started working together and were surprised by how much they could accomplish. The group quickly grew and became more sophisticated in organization, capable of taking on large projects. It blew my mind how hard these kids worked in the hot sun, with no water or shade, picking up trash, cleaning out overgrown brush, and burning rubbish. If the people of this city can continue to dedicate themselves to the common good like these kids, then the future looks bright.-- Source

Aaliyyah;840303 wrote: Chimera, it is true that there are children out there who lost their fathers either to the war or a death for whatever reason. And yet turned out responsible productive adults. But, walaal that is not the rule that is the exception. The issues that face the somali community on top of the civil war is the lack of father figures at home. That is the sad truth. It is amazing if one has uncles, male cousins and good role male models in their family. But, a father is irreplaceable especially in the qurbaha, perhaps back home your uncles and male relatives are the same as your father. A father has a certain power/position in his family and an obligation over his kids that relatives don't have. There is no way around this, and no way to underestimate the need for a good father who spends quality time with his kids. The concept of oh these kids are just rebels does not cut it. A baby is innocent and it is how you raise him/her that plays such an important role on how he/she ends up. Of course the environment can have its impact on the child. But, if the parents take that extra mile to prepare that child to be a productive/responsible human being waxaan halkan ku fadhiyaa in ay ku khasareeen. Ilmo kasta oo waqti la galiyo oo lugu tacbo ilaahayna waalidka masuuliyadiisa kasoo baxay wuu cawinaya oo ilmaha luguma khasaarayo. salaam I think it's a convenient excuse, always blaming the father. It's not like he can enter their minds and put them on a different trajectory from what is considered "cool". On a average day "all teenagers" see their parents roughly two to three hours a day, while they see their friends three to four times as many hours. Who will have the biggest influence? Their friends of course. My fatherless friends chose their own friends well, and as a result are successful productive individuals. The kids in the video - whose fathers are still alive - didn't choose the right friends, and involved themselves with a degenerate sub-culture, and look what happened. The latter are the exception rather than the rule because the vast majority of Somali teens are law-abiding citizens contributing to society, and the Ch4 claim about Somali educational/employment records is based on a decade old study when the community was new and fresh, since then serious gains have been made.

Chubacka, there are plenty of Somali men who's fathers unfortunately died in the war, yet their sons turned out fine. There are two paths a boy can take in such a situation, he can cry about this reality or he can become the man in the house. In an other topic someone was complaining about how big Somali families are, yet you're trying to tell me these lost boys couldn't find a father figure in those same big families? If I had lost my father, I would still have my uncles, cousins, grand-father etc to look up to, and model myself after. If I have a son, and if I were to perish before he reaches 12, my brothers, cousins and uncles would all step in. To be honest some kids are rebels, and no amount of "quality time" will change their persepective of the world, until they have finally mentally grown up like the girl in the video. Just recently a sister who lost her father to the war, returned to Mogadishu to be part of a pioneering Tedx conference, why did she succeed in life without the presence of her father, while the characters in the video all had their parents yet failed? Some people are just born rebels, and this cuts across nations, continents and ethnic groups. The only point I will agree with is the alienation these kids suffer, this is because a strong contemporary Somali culture is not in place. We need a strong Somali bubble that captures the generation between the age 15-20, whether its through sporting tournaments, popular culture(music, films, novels, comics etc), home-work clubs, charter schools, etc. After that their minds will have matured while not having a history of bad mistakes.

One advantage Somalia has is its high urban population and sizable cities that with long-term peace could be upgraded into serious hubs of prosperity. All these cities are intricately linked with towns, villages and farms so development would have a country-wide impact. Its pretty dumb to point at mothers who gave birth to their children at a time when their farms were prospering, just because some organisation of masked losers turned their bread-basket regions into war-zones. Society is to blame for not sustaining stability, for not creating cleaner hospitals, better water and sanitation-systems, greater export markets for maximum profits, and monumental construction projects in the form of dams and wind-farms that could sustain a 20% fertily rate in a low-density populated country like Somalia. Don't you dare blame the mothers, it's our fault, the Somali people, society, nation, republic.

*Blessed;839937 wrote: That surprised me too. Berbera has a large stretch of beach, the girls could have easily found themselves a spot away from the boys and the cameras, didn't see the point of taking the poor things, if they were going to be locked in the bus. p.s I've been to Berbera beach several times and no one bothered us. In fact, it's usually empty. True say, Aaliyah and you're Somali is fantastic. I think its fake, or the girls from the dhaqan celis camp are simply the only ones not allowed, because in this picture you have diaspora girls and boys mixing with the locals on the same beach:

Abwaan;839926 wrote: It is about Ilaahay amarkiis and who raises you. Role model is very important. Many of them lack a father figure . They either have none or there is an invisible one, then there are things like cultural clash, peer pressure and so on. This is really sad! That's not true, the 30-65 age Somali male demographic in our community are excellent role-models. I can understand a Jamaican kid feeling out of place in London when all of the shops he does his groceries in is owned by Turks, all the Barbershops are owned by Pakistanis, all the Churches are owned by Whites, but for a Somali kid there are entire streets with shops owned by successful Somali men and women, plenty of Somali owned mosques or those with Somali imams, there are plenty of famous Somali world-class athletes, authors and journalists that grace the British tv-screen periodically, there are plenty of important Somali councillors and mayors. There are plenty of heavyweight Somali businesspeople headquartered in London, indeed there are plenty of role-models, if they choose to look. Xaaji Xunjuf however hit the nail on the hit, they chose different role-models, and it got them nowhere, other than polluting a rising Somali metropolis with their silly accents and gold-teeth.

Carafaat;839901 wrote: Chimera, your a man with a vision. We could become friends, unfortuantly your ego,flair and arrogance stand in the way. A man can tell you the weather, but that doesn't make him a weatherman. To say that Somalia is suitable for a ship-building industry is not visionary, it's common sense. However a person that creates a detailed plan that could lead to the existence of such an industry is 'visionary'. Therefore, I'm not sure why I'm being put on a pedestal, because I have no such plan. I do have friends.

Britain is the greatest country on the planet, these kids are just degenerate waste of space, no excuses. I feel sorry for the local parents in Hargeisa, they deserve better. Don't go back, unless you got something worthy to contribute. ps Hargeisa looks sweet, and LOL how come women at Lido beach are swimming right beside their men in a post-Al-Shaydaan era, but women in Berbera can't enjoy the same? That was a shock. EDIT: The local women are allowed.

Interesting.

That's more like it. Those that go back now will be the biggest winners of the Somali rennaissance.

Wonderful, Somalia with its favorable climate should embrace the wonders of solar power,

Excellent!

An assembly plant costs in the region of $10 million if you establish a joint-venture. The coke factories in Somalia cost more than that, and they employ less people, and do not project the same "Made in Somalia" prestige, a heavy industry like the automotive sector would, what a waste. A Somali version of the landrover or the jeep would be hugely popular in Somalia. I think a shipbuilding industry would suit Somalia better though considering its long coast, but you need visionary people for that.

Are you sure she wasn't born Arnold Coulter? Seriously though that is not an Adam's apple, ours has a different edge.

Where are the billion dollar projects Xiin? They had four forums discussing different types of infrastructure, was that just chatting or are there projects in the pipeline? Post-2010 Istanbul Conference there was that $1 billion investment in the energy sector but that never materialized.

Adam would show his Adam's apple. Women never got their piece from Eve, but ancient Adam left his mark amongst his sons.

Ibtisam took the right path, this man is obviously mentally ill if he could punch a girl in front of other people. A man beating a woman is most prevalent amongst married couples, and this always happens at home out of the view of the public. This Dr clearly felt untouchable, and Ibti handled it well. He was named and shamed, not to forget banned. That should serve as a clear deterrent for other retards like him. Physical violence exerted upon him could lead to a cycle of voilence, and Ibtisam in the end would be the biggest loser since your star is rising while his star was clearly fading. This is a nasty episode you should put behind you, and instead focus on all the good experiences you have had since you returned. Speaking of which, where are the pictures?