Originally posted by Nephthys: Dhulqamarayn, isqarxis.com. Originally posted by Khalaf: quote: Originally posted by Dhulqarnayn -alSumaale: I used to be a troll long time ago on SOL under the nick IIRC Emperor or something like that, but then i got banned now i'm chill u got banned? get out of here....what u do to get banned man?It was a justified ban, i was really annoying in a S-net type of way but i came to realise SOL is very different from the forum (the beforementioned qabiilist troll heaven) i came from when i first started posting on SOL thanks bro, personally i didn't know him just got word from my family ur abti died u know how it is, but death kinda takes u back and think for minute ....alxamdullahi we are doing well. May Allah make it easy for all of us. take care I agree!

Originally posted by Khalaf: No sister, it doesn't sound morbid at all, i was thinking about same thing one day. Its a great reminder, bout how life is very short and we can die any moment. I once read a thread talking about this brother an Soler that did pass away, Suleka i think started the topic and all his posts were deleted. brother was from london may Allah give him jannah....honestly it puts everything in perspective....... my abti died yesterday so may Allah give him jannah, and all the mumins. closer and closer we get, O Allah make us the Party of Jannah and save us from the hellfire. Amiin. salaam Amiin brother hope you and your family are doing well

I used to be a troll long time ago on SOL under the nick IIRC Emperor or something like that, but then i got banned now i'm chill

I vote for Cyrus cause Eskander was far from a just ruler since he burned and sacked Persepolis, while Cyrus freed Jewish slaves when he conquered the Babylonian Empire, gave all people of the empire equall rights etc etc so if i had to choose between the two (and Dhul was indeed a King of the past and not myth) than i would choose Cyrus the Great but your right Allah knows best!

Thanks bro!

I'm a Farax :cool: (Dhulqarnayn)

LLPP thanks bro! MMA thanks for the names Wad and Eebe they are part of the Story! and good to know there will be at least a few Somaali's that are interested in supporting a book on Somali mythology Dabshid I might have some questions for you, please keep a spot open for me in your Inbox, thanks in advance

^People like him are very dangerous especially in a society like Uganda, his continues use of the word ''filth'' really reveals his bitterness( i can't believe a person would hate 10k civilians in a nation of 30 million just because they know how to do business) i personally have Lebanese and Indian friends who's relatives were brutally displaced a few decades ago, and this xenophobia had it's origin with individuals like him(radio presenters, tv propaganda which then eventually was taken up Idi Amin) Somali scholars must immediatly coin the term Somalophobia or Anti-Somalism cause ''anti-something'' or Something-phobia are terms politicians don't want to be associated with and they will take action. here's another hate-stirrer towards the Somali community (making it seem as if there are tensions between Somalis iyo Masai's when there are none in reality) Maasai,Somali and the matter that threatens to divide them By REV ZEPHANIA S KORESS A new controversy between Maasai, who are mainly Christians, and Somali, who are mainly Muslims, concerning the meat sold in butcheries, has erupted in Kajiado. And while this might appear a minor matter to many Kenyans, it could be the reason for a major conflict between the Maasai and Somali in the district if it is not addressed early enough. This regards the slaughter of animals which is strictly carried out by Muslims in all of Kajiado District’s slaughterhouses. It is taken for granted by most Kenyans that the meat they eat will have been slaughtered by a Muslim. Indeed, some people will demand to know if indeed a Muslim slaughtered the meat they are about to it. There are others who do care to know about such matters; all they want is meat for their meals. But now there is a new twist to this matter in Kajiado District. The attack on a group of local people last November, for example, should be treated as having given rise to a new case which had previously not been addressed for lack of an appropriate forum. Usually, a special prayer is quickly said over the animal that has been made to face Mecca before its windpipe is severed. The point of controversy is that the Muslims dedicate the meat to Allah before consumption. But not all consumers of the meat are Muslims. Now the Holy Scriptures forbid Christians from eating such meats. But I Corinthians 10:25 allows Christians to eat the meat if they are not aware of its intended sacrificial purpose. They are to desist from eating it after this purpose is revealed. "But if anyone says to you, ‘This has been offered in sacrifice,’ then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience’ sake." (1 Corinthians 10:25-Holy Bible NIV). Why does eating such meat bother a Christian? Again I Corinthians 10:20-21 and Deuteronomy 32:17-18 explain it. Christians are excused for their past ignorance in such deeds according to Acts 17:30-31. At the same time, each one of them everywhere is commanded to repent once the truth has been revealed or face divine judgement. The Kajiado non-Muslims have boycotted this meat since last December 21 and are demanding to be allowed to slaughter their own animals to provide "kosher" meat. A group of pastors from "Bissel Christian Church" (union of all the Churches) met with the Kajiado District Commissioner, Mr Ken Lusaka, who himself worships at the Anglican Church in Kajiado, on January 11 and asked him to let the Christians eat meat! He promised to summon together bishops, church and mosque leaders to his office tomorrow. (The writer confirmed yesterday that the meeting is still on and extended an invitation to the Standard.) Ironically, all the slaughterhouses and meat shops in Kajiado are owned and run by Christians! But Kajiado’s Muslims seem to control the state of affairs at the district headquarters because they own wholesale stores, hotels, petrol stations, residential houses and business premises in Kajiado town centre. Several Somalis are members of Osilalei and Lorng’osua group-ranches in Matapato; Torosei group-ranch in Loodo-Kilani; IlDalal-le-Kutuk. They have their own schools and in recent years, 90’s, they have been trying to recruit Maasai children to Islam through schools. They provide free education in Islamic schools at Kajiado town, Mile-Tisa and Namanga. But this enterprise has not succeed as anticipated because the Maasai culture has many points of conflict with many Islamic practices. Therefore, about 90 per cent of the children withdrew, leaving only a handful from very poor families. However, the Somali people in Kajiado and the Muslim fraternity are keen to contribute to the education of their district. Their current efforts revolve around a proposed Islamic university, which, it is claimed, will target Maasai students. A local resident has donated a 12-acre plot at Esukuta in the proximity of Kajiado town for that purpose. Such collaborative development efforts may be thrown into jeopardy if protest rallies such as the one done in Kajiado, became a common feature of the district and may have negative results if the issue is not speedily resolved. Some radical elements within the Christian or Muslim ranks may not restrain or contain themselves if slightly provoked and thugs may seize the opportunity to loot. Meanwhile all of Kajiado District, to the remotest parts, while supporting the meat boycott, wants to see this matter resolved speedily. Maasai people who in the last couple of years or so in communities along the Kenya/Tanzania border, have felt hard done by because of the increasing influence of the Somali and their aggressive search for new converts to Islam. All Kenyans, be they Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus or animists, are entitled to exercise their faith, whatsoever, as stipulated in the Kenya Bill of Rights in the Constitution. No individual, group or ruling power is mandated to stop them! Let the government and concerned authorities address and redress this potentially explosive issue before it hatches hatred and even skirmishes. ------------ This was an old article from two years ago, and nothing ever happened, you see this was nothing but a failed attempt to create tensions between people who have none

I had Ebyan and Qalanjo but wow alot of these names kick azz! especially Istahil thanks bro

Paragon i'm not worried, i showed a few pages to my Uncle who's quite conservative and he liked it since he knows this is written for entertainment purposes the way Somali parents continue to entertain their children with these stories i have used some of the names from this interesting Article and slowly turn them into characters(can't say there characteristics or changes since this is internet in the end and you don't want find your own story published by someone else lol) thanks for the tip about 'Secrets' i will look him up btw does anyone have a good list of non-arabic Somali names?

Who are you and Who am i?

Thanks brother!

Originally posted by Nephthys: Drives me bonkers when you rush to share their success as a "Somali success" when in reality the average Somali writes them off as fishers and worthless shoemakers. Sad reality indeed. This young scientist's success belongs to his people [people of Barave] wholly and entirely. who are these people of Barawa? people need to understand not all ethnic Somali groups fall under the clan system case in point The Tunni's of Barawa

about Somali mythology including all the important figures into one giant epic story, it's really good but it's still in manuscript form cause i need more names of Somali demons i currently have three and more names that i'm not aware of would be welcome( Somali friendly pre-islamic deities are welcome aswell) I'm gonna self publish this book, when i have added my own illustrations Insha-allah help me out!

Layzie okay since you continue to differentiate a 'Somali' from a inhabitant of Barawa i will ask you this; who are these Barawani's you speak off? please give me some examples, thanks in advance

Originally posted by Nephthys: Isku dhadhajiska iska deeya, he ain't Somali, but a Baravani, a Portugese origin. :rolleyes: First of all, the Portuguese never settled in large numbers in Baraawe since they were continuesly fighting the Ajuuraanites and the portuguese eventually got kicked out when the Ajuraan formed an alliance with the Ottoman sailor 'Mir Ali bey' so to say Somalis living in Barawa are the result of a few years of occupation is laughable especially considering the fact most of the inhabitants during the fighting fled inwards while some who stayed were killed(muslims deserved to die,according to the Portuguese) so the young kid is definitely a Somali, but if your basing this on his unique look you should see my little niece who is the product of Somali + Somali marriage yet resembles an indian girl( btw where does it say he is born in Barawa or Marka? last thing i remember about his earlier life is that he was born in Kenya IIRC)

Originally posted by Skipper: To skipper the rest of your post (the printing of money aside) was b.s(no disrespect. None taken adeer alsulmale. When i say Somalia was booming is because i was looking at the bigger picture. What separates a great coutry from a good one is first and formost the total security that the goverment bestows its citizens. You are right when you said the goverment was a hinderance to development due to its communism mentality. But communist didnt stop Japan from becoming a major player in the world economy did it? Siad Barre is the most underrated leader i have ever heard of. If it was not for him then we would have write things in arabian instead of latin. If the war was avoided and Siad Barre was left to govern then i am sure Somalia would have been the most strongest coutry in east Africa. Actually today we would probably be writing with the Osmanya script(i'm personally very saddened that this didn't happen) which at the time was being used around Somalia by both government officials,newspapers and civilians I agree i rather have pre-88' Siyaad Barre than todays scum but there's not much one can do about this fact, but our people definitely took matters into their own hands and succeeded in many ways one would not have predicted if you told a person in 81' Somalia will be without a government in 91' and beyond. More Airlines? More schools and Uni's? better telecommunications? The person would laugh and accuse you of being a nin walaan but we both know this is today's reality because of the resilience of Somali entrepreneurs and civilians

Masha-allah The Somali world should open a trustfund for this young man, in case he's blocked by financial obstacles in the future, this must not happen!

looooooooooooooooooooooooool Crazy Britney fan goes ape LOL LOL Seth Green's response LOL looooooooool fell of my chair

Originally posted by -Lily-: ^^^ off topic but such beauties in your sig pic, Masha Allah. actually my sig could be considered on-topic

Talk about getting hit with the Irony stick i bet the ''staying at home dads'' are reaping the benefits Those depressive women are probably like that mother of that old show Malcolm in the middle who wants to do everything, everywhere while the pops is relaxing and re-living his youthfull days or they like Monica too uptight and always seeking to beat the next person while most men are probably like Phoebe or joey hehe

^The route is impressive, i hope they succeed in this exiting project

Ghanima i agree with Skipper all of the current statistics regarding Somalia by orgs like Worldbank and Cia-W-book are based on late 80's governmental census, i think countries like Namibia or Botswana are better options, anyways good luck! To skipper the rest of your post (the printing of money aside) was b.s(no disrespect) Somalia might have been stable in that era compared to today but booming it was definitely not, more like the average citizen was statisfied with the little things they had due to the many restrictions imposed by the Government. Today there are more Airlines, a stronger telecommunication system, more Universities and schools in Somalia. Places like Somaliland and Puntland are estimated to have a GDP per capita of 1600$ or more (could be way higher) If only a non biased non governmental organization could do these type of governmental surveys i think we would see alot of progress in multiple areas

Submarine Fiber Optic Route to Somalia The Eastern African Submarine System was proposed in 2003 with the main goals of improving the quality of telecommunication services and reducing cost of bandwidth in Eastern African countries. The project is being developed by fifteen telecommunication companies from thirteen East African countries. The fiber optic cable project is expected to run from Port Sudan in the North to Durban in South Africa. The 9,900km submarine cable is expected to be operational by the first quarter of 2009 and have nine landing stations along the East coast of Africa. Local Telecommunication operators of EAASY Project Despite problems facing the utilization of fiber optic cable systems in Africa, there are numerous opportunities African countries can derive from the two main projects. The cable, known as EASSy, will run 10,000 kilometers from the continent’s southern tip to the African horn, connecting South Africa, Mozambique, Madagascar, Tanzania, Kenya, Somalia, Djibouti, and Sudan. Another 13 adjoining countries will also be linked to the system as terrestrial backbone networks are completed through a broader World Bank Group initiative: these include Botswana, Burundi, the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Chad, Ethiopia, Lesotho, Malawi, Rwanda, Swaziland, Uganda, Zambia, and Zimbabwe Continues Osman Dahir Osman Somali Internet and Communications Technology (SICT) Mogadishu, Somalia Email: osmando@gmail.com

INTERNET Somalia: Civil War Hides Steady Growth of Internet Services Balancing Act (London) March 5, 2007 Posted to the web March 5, 2007 Russell Southwood London Despite continuing unrest, Somalia has taken the first tentative steps towards establishing a national government and AU peacekeepers have begun to arrive. It's too early to say whether some sort of peace will take hold but behind the seemingly endless news of civil war, the Internet has been developing apace. Somalia was one of the last African countries to get connected to the Internet after the country established its first ISP in 1999. But today the country has internet connectivity to almost 53% of the whole area of the country and the Internet business is mushrooming in the country and becoming one of the fastest growing services along with telephony. Based on the 2006 report of Somali Telecommunication Association (STA), a watchdog organisation that oversees the Policy development and regulatory framework of ICT sector in Somalia, by the end of 2005 there were more than 0.5 million users of Internet services in the country with 22 established ISP and 234 cyber cafes with growth of 15.6% per year. Several types of Internet services are available in the country including dial up services that are mainly provided by the major network operators in the country. The major players include Global Internet Company which is a jointly owned by the three major networks of Hormud Telcom, Telcom Somalia and Nationlink. Global Internet Company is the biggest ISP in the country and the sole provider of dialup services in South- central regions of the country. While in Somaliland and Puntland, Internet services has been bundled within the network products and services whereby each network delivers Internet dialup services into its own subscribers. Major regional service leaders include Telsom, and Ts in Somaliland regions and Golis and STG in the Puntland region. Dial up internet services in Somalia is the fastest growing internet services in Africa as Somalia enjoys landline growth of more than 12.5% per year compared to Horn and eastern Africa countries where landline is experiencing a serious decline due vandalism and increase cost of copper cables in the international market. This growth is attributed to the unique services policy adopted by the Somali telcom operators that is based on free local calls within each town of in the country. Landline has become the product of choice and most affordable telecommunication service in the local market. By just paying a flat rate of US$ 10 per month for unlimited calls and US0.005 per minute for Internet connections, with one time connection fee of US$50. The other high-flying Internet service in the country is Wireless Internet for corporate, learning institutions, UN, NGO and diplomatic Missions. This service is provided by both dial up and non-dial up ISPs. Major cities like Mogadishu, Hargeisa, Bosaso, Kismayo and Galkayo, the services has been delivered at the pricing structure ranging from US$ 150- 300 per month for unlimited internet access with bandwidth rate of 64kbs up and down. For instance, the capital city Mogadishu hosts the biggest wireless internet services and has largest subscriber base in the country and Dalkom (Wanaag HK), webtel, Orbit, and Unitel are the major leaders of service providers. The challenges facing the wireless internet providers include the cost of subscriber terminal equipment and electricity supply as well the cost of bandwidth. Somafone, one of the GSM services providers, has also introduced a GPRS service for wireless Internet in the market. GPRS service has not yet picked up in the local market but it is available in Mogadishu and its neighbourhood regions of Lower and Middle Shabelle. ADSL and LRE( long range ethernet) Internet services are also offered in Mogadishu, specially for the business centres and corporate institutions in the city. The services has not been extended to other major cities in the country but expected to be completed in the near future. So far Global internet is the only operator at the moment able to provide ADSL services in Mogadishu. In the last quarter of 2006, Dalkom Somalia came up with a programme extending ADSL services throughout the country by providing ADSL equipments to all network operators in the country with a revenue sharing business model, after realising a great shift of Internet connectivity and the huge demand for broadband services in the market. Most of the operators are studying this proposal and expected to be endorsed by this year. It hopes this will help the operators to improve internet usage, increase the subscriber base and connectivity of internet in the country. Dalkom Somalia says it has technical and resources capacity to roll out countrywide ADSL services in collaboration with all the networks in the country. The cost of ADSL services in country, believed to be the cheapest in the sub-region. For instant, the cost of the terminals plus the installation is about US$100 while the rate of services is determined by the number of computers that to be connected. For example ADSL services connected to one computer costs US$30 per month for unlimited Internet access and unlimited downloads. Internet over the satellite services is also offered in the country especially in the remote areas and the cities that have no either dialup or wireless Internet services. Major clients include UN, NGOs, financial institutions particularly the remittance companies and Internet Cafes. Currently over three hundred satellite terminals, connected to various teleports in Europe and Asia are available throughout the country. This type of services have shown a stable growth of 10-15% per year. But the more the broadband wireless Internet increases throughout the country, the less there will be a need for satellite Internet. Therefore the market for satellite Internet has gone down in the past three years in the urban areas of Somalia while this type of services picked up in the rural areas and the demand has been steadily growing up. The Educational centres, media companies and financial institutions have been contributing to the growth of the demand of Internet over the satellite services as these institutions are pushing the extension of services into the remote areas of the country, in order to be able to operate in rural areas. The biggest challenge for Internet services in Somalia is the cost of bandwidth as most of the customers are currently paying between US$ 2500-3000 per Mbs per month. The Major international bandwidth providers include TAIDE, Skyvision, Etisalat, Sinosat, and Newskies , Eutalsat, Panamsat and Intelsat. Dalkom, an international gateway and Internet backbone operator in Somalia provides various products and solutions for the internet services providers(ISP), corporate institutions , learning centres and cyber Cafees include cheap bandwidth through Its backbone, internet over satellite and Premium routes for the content providers and media operators as well international voice gateway services for global carriers. Dalkom Somalia considers the internet market one of the fastest growing sectors in the country and it will keep on growing in the next two decades as market is shifting into data and Voip services. Most of the ISP are shifting to development of contents, integrated solution of Voice and data, VOIP, hosting and video streaming as e-commerce and media over internet are the deals of the day. Dalkom's international gateway has a capacity to support the growing internet market demand of country and still trying to source more affordable bandwidth in the international market in order to improve affordability of bandwidth in the local market as bandwidth becomes a precious commodity in the market. Dalkom Somalia has also plans to expand its international gateway services into regional operators by building a sub-station in the regions of Somaliland and Puntland as well the completion of its commercial national backbone in order to further improve international connectivity of the country and minimise the cost of network operations as the current international gateway supports the network operators in South-central Somalia http://allafrica.com/stories/200703050656.html Internet users Ethiopia -113000 -population - ~70 million Uganda - 125000 -population - ~28 million Tanzania -384000 -population - ~38 million Somalia -500000 -population - ~11 million lol