Che, In Mogadishu no faction wins completelty and comprehensively. Ofcourse, I am not talking about temporary situations. At the end of the day the conflict between the political/religious pretenders only results in the suffering of poor Somali families.

warlords with beards and screaming the same thing=religious warlords. What makes Sheikh Caddow from ICU, Sheikh Aweys from Xisbi Islam and Sheikh Mansuur from Alshabab fight each other if it is not for power? They are political pretenders, the old warlords with a new flavour.

How come misleading title? They brought in Foreign troops, this topic was created on 25 march when the news report of Alshabab bringing in foreign troops was published. Those foreign troops partook in the fighting of the last 3 days. What is misleading about the title, L-S?

Ururka alshabaab oo qirtey in dad ajaaniib ah ay ka barbar dagaalamayaan iyo dagaalka oo laga cabsi qabo inuu aad uga cuslaado dagaaladii horey u soo maray Soomaaliya. Waaliga urur diimeedka alshabaab ee gobolka Banaadir Sheekh Cali Xuseen ayaa qirtey inay ka garab dagaalamayaan dad ajaaniib ah oo kala kal yimid dunida islaamka. Sheekh Cali Xuseen oo wareysi siiyay idaacada BBCda laanteeda afsoomaaliga ayaa sheegay in iyaga aysan u kala soocneen ummadda muslimiinta oo dhan sidaa darteed ay jiraan dad ajnabi ah u iyaga u yimid si ay ula dagaalamaan cadowga ilaahay waa sida uu hadalka u yiriye. Sheekh cali Xuseen ayaa sidoo kale ku gaabsaday inuu ka jawaabo hadalka lagu xanto ururka alshabaab ee ah in dadka oo dhan ay gaalo yihiin marka laga reebo ururka alshabaab iyo inta la shaqeyso, wariye Cabdi Nuur Sheekh Maxamed Isxaaq ayaa ku celcleiyey arinta gaaleynta dadka soomaalida laakiinse waxaa uu ku adkeystey sheekh Cali Xuseen in iyaga ay u arkaan cadow ilaahay waxa ay la dirirayaan isla markaana ay dagaalka sii wadi doonaan inta ay gaarayaan hadafkooda Xeerdheerayaasha geeska Afrika ayaa sheegaya in laga yaabo dagaalka Soomaaliya uu xoogeystey oo uu la mid noqdo dagaalada ka socda wadamada afganistaan iyo ciraaq taasna ay abuurto qax aad uga balaaran qaxii ay ummadda soomaaliyeed soo martay 20kii sano ee u danbeeyey. Dowladaha reer galbeedka ayaa iyagu isku dayay inay ummadda Soomaaliyeed ku qanciyaan qaadashada nabada iyo inay shareecadooda isku xukumaan iyagaoon cidna aan qatar ku aheen laakiin waxa ay u muuqataa in ururka Alshabaab uu wato ajande isaga u gaar ah isla markaana ay leeyihiin awood ay is bidayaan oo ah inay dalka Soomaaliya oo dhan inay si tartiib tartiib ah u qabsadaan kadibna ay ka hirgaliyaan xukunka iyaga hoos taga oo ka soo horjeeda dhamaan dunnidda aan ku nool nahay maadaama ay iyagu sheegeen in adduunkaan waxa joogo ay yihiin gaalo iyo gaalo raacyo iyo in yar oo muslimiin ah oo la duleystey. Haddaba la arki doonee in ay sii socota guulaha isa soo taraya ee ururka Alshabaab isla markaana halkaas ay kusoo gabagaboowdo dowladdii ay beesha caalamka u arkayeen inay soomaaliya u horseedi karto dowlad islaam ah oo qunyar socod ah oo aan dowladdaha caalamka wax qatar ah ku heynin.

Foreign fighters have been reported fighting on the side of Alshabab. -------------------- -------------------- ------- Abuu-Mansuur Al-Amriiki iyo Ajaanib kale oo Maanta Towfiiq lagu arkay. Waxaa maanta Magaalada Muqdisho markii ugu horeysay lagu arkay Ciidamo lasocda Alshabaab oo ajaanib ah kuwaasi oo ka bar bar dagaalamayay Ururka Alshabaab. Waxaa dadweynaha ay si caadi ah maanta ugu arkeen wadada Towfiiq kadib markii halkaasi ay la wareegeen iyadoo wadada ay si caadi ah u taagan yihiin Ciidamo Ajnabi ah, waxaana kamid ahaa raggii maanta ay shacabka reer Muqdisho isha saareen Abuu-Mansuur Alamriiki. Abuu-Mansuur Alamriiki ayaa dadka waxa ay sheegeen in ay ku aqoonsadeen in isaga uu yahay kadib markii dhowaan muuqaalkiisa ay ku arkeen web site-yada adduunka oo lasoo dhigay isaga oo baaq ujeedinaya Dadka dhigiisa ah ee qurbo joogta ah. Ajaanib kale ayaa la arkayay lakin majirto cid isku dayday in ay sawir ka qaadaan iyadoo laga cabsi qabay haddii la sawiro in qofkii sawiro ay alshabaab tooktaan taasi oo horey ay u xukmiyeen. Abuu Mansuur Alamriiki ayaa ah Hoggaamiye dhinaca dagaallada ah oo aad ugu xeel dheer arrimaha weerarka isaga oo tababarro kusiiya shabaabka sida ay weerarka ugu qaadaan marka magaalo lagu dhex dagaalamayo. Waxa ay aheyd maanta gelinkii hore markii Cumar Xaashi Aadan uu ku eedeeyay xoogaga la dagaalamayay in ay wateen Ciidamo Shisheeye kuwaasi oo jiidda hore si weyn uga dagaalamayay.

Unless the inhabitants of Mogadishu create their own Madani forces they will be slaughtered like cattle by power-hungry warlords. The recent 3-day long clash between the warlords with a beard has left: 65 dead, 190 injured, and thousands displaced from their houses.

Clashes between religious warlords leave 65 dead, 190 injured. http://www.hiiraan.c om/news2/2009/May/cl ashes_kill_at_least_ 65_in_somalia_in_3_d ays.aspx

Clashes kill at least 65 in Somalia in 3 days MOGADISHU, May 10 (Reuters) - Clashes between rival Islamist groups have killed at least 65 people and wounded more than 190 others in three days of battles in Somalia's capital, witnesses and hospital sources said on Sunday. The Horn of Africa nation's interim government is struggling with a powerful insurgency in one of the world's most dangerous countries, where fighting since late 2006 has killed thousands and forced more than a million more from their homes. Hundreds of Islamists loyal to the government and opposition al Shabaab militiamen fought with heavy machine guns and mortars in northern Mogadishu over the weekend. "We killed an uncountable number of government fighters and moderate Islamists. Their dead bodies lie in the streets," Sheikh Mohamed Ibrahim Bilal, a senior al Shabaab official, told Reuters. "Now north Mogadishu is under our control. We swept them from five key positions including Mogadishu football stadium." Residents and hospital sources said 50 people had been killed in the fighting and 181 others wounded. At least 15 other people were killed and ten injured when a mortar struck a local mosque on Sunday, witnesses said. "I can see 15 bodies of people killed after a mortar hit a mosque," witness Hassan Abdulle told Reuters by telephone. "They wanted to attend the afternoon prayers." A local elder told Reuters that foreign fighters were taking part in the clashes. "We see long-bearded Arabs everywhere," Osman Ali said. There was no independent confirmation of the presence of foreigners. Western security agencies have long feared that Somalia could become a haven for terrorists. The anarchic nation has been without effective central rule since 1991. Two local reporters were wounded after a mortar struck a news conference, witnesses said. International donors have pledged at least $213 million to help boost Somalia's security forces. President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed -- a former Islamist rebel -- is seen by many as the best hope in years for restoring stability. Heavily armed pirates from Somalia have captured dozens of merchant ships off the coast, taking hundreds of hostages and making off with millions of dollars in ransoms. (Additional reporting by Mohamed Ahmed and Ibrahim Mohamed; writing by Jack Kimball; editing by Philippa Fletcher). Source: Reuters, May 10, 2009 -------------------- -------------------- -------- THESE RELIGIOUS WARLORDS HAVE SHOWN THEIR TRUE FACE: THEY ARE NO BETTER THEN THE AMISOM GORILLAZ BOMBARDING THE CITY. THEY DO NOT CARE FOR THE PEOPLE

Dont accuse me of what you are suffering from: cuqdad qabiil dishay. Weren't you the one who said: but what happened to his courts... However, Sa'id Dheere is taming the crazy boys and took important ground from Away's Hizbul Islam... We all see the connection between Sa'Id dheere and you...which explains your discrediting of the ICU while praising ''Sa'd Dheere''. So who is suffering from clan cuqdad?

Warar is khilaafsan ayaa ilaa iyo hada ka soo baxay saldhigyo muhiim ah oo lagu kala qabsaday dagaalada galay maalintii afaraad, inkastoo dagaalada ay haatan yihiin kuwo ka yar sidii xalay iyo waabarigii saaka, waxaana aagaga dagaalka ka socdo laga maqlayaa rasaas goos goos ah oo aan sidaa u buurneyn. Warar aan la xaqiijin oo ah kuwo isa soo taraya ayaa kuwooda ugu badan waxay sheegayaan in Ciidamada Dowladda ay qabsadeen goobo ay horay u joogeen Kooxaha Mucaaradka, gaar ahaan Xoogaga Xisbul Islaam. Saldhigyada Yaaqshiid iyo Wardhiigley ayaa wararku sheegayaan in ay la wareegeen Ciidamada Maxkamadaha ee taabacsan Dowladda , kuwaasoo ay ka garab dagaalamayaan Ciidamadii Milateriga Dowladii hore ee lagu soo tababaray Ethiopia, kuwaasoo saaka dagaalka ku soo biiray. Sidoo kale warar kale oo iyana hada na soo gaaraya ayaa sheeaya in Xoogaga Alshabaab oo dagaaladaas qeyb ka ah iyana ay la wareegeen Garoonka Cayaaraha Stadium Muqdisho oo dagaalka xoogiisa ka socday labadii maalmood ee u dambeysay. Inkastoo aanay haatan dagaal xoogan ka socon magaalada Muqdisho, waxaana xilligan oo saacada Muqdisho tahay 12-ka duhurnimo ay xaalada u muuqataa mid yara xasilooney, laakiin meelaha wali Ciidamada isku hor fadhiyaan ayaa rasaas teel teel laga maqlayaa, waxaase dhici karta in labada dhinac uu wax walba ka dhex bilowday saacado gudahood. Ilaa iyo hada Labada dhinac ee dirirti u dhaxeysa ayaa guulo aan badneyn kala sheeganaya, iyadoona dagaalku yahay mid kolba meel u guur guuraya, mana jirto cid wali ku kala adkaatay, marka loo eego in labada dhinac ay marba meel isku racdeystaan. Hooyga wararka Somaliyed www.Jowhar.com Jowharcom@hotmail.co m Jowharcom@gmail.com -------------------- -------------------- ------ Those are Militia of Qeybdiid and in Suuq Bacaad men from Yaashid gained control. Who is Said Dheere and the ones he is taming? loool

Sheekh Xasan Dahir oo socoshada dagaalada ka socda Muqdisho ku eedeeyay Dowladda KMG ah isna difaacayaan Ururkooda Wadaadka dhawaan ka yimid magaalada Asmara ahna Gudoomiyaha Isbahaysiga dib u xoraynta ee Garabka Eritrea Sheekh Xasan Dahir Aweys ayaa eedayn ba’an u jeediyay Dowladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya, isagoo ku eedeeyay inay soo weerareen ururkooda, islamarkaana ay ku jiraan difaac kooxdooda. Hogaamiyeyaasha Mucaaradka Dowladda KMG ah ayaa ****olka ka qaaday in dagaalada afarta maalmood socday, wuxuuna eeda sii socoshada dagaaladaasi Kooxaha ku abtirsada Midowgii Maxkamadaha Islaamka, wuuuxna shaaca ka qaaday in dagaalkaasi ay ka dambeyso Dowladda KMG ah. “Fariisimada ay degan yihiin Xisbul Islaam ayaa waxaa soo weeraray, waxaana lana soo weeraray iyadoo ay socotay nabadeyn, ayay kooxaha dagaalka wada naga soo weerareen xaafadda Towfiiq iyo Saldhiga Wardhiigley” ayuu yiri Xasan Daahir Aweys oo sheegay inay iyagu yihiin oo kaliya difaac. Sidoo kale Xasan daahir waxa uu carbka ku dhuftay in dagaalka soconaaya uu markiisii ugu horeeyay uu ka curtay weerar lagu qaaday dhaq dhaqaaqa Al-Shabaab, wuxuuna muujiyay in Xisbul Islaam iyo Al-Shabaab ay isku dhinac yihiin oo isla bar bardagaalamayaan -------------------- -------------------- ------- A true S.O.B, he came from peacefull Asmara and instead of letting the 850.000 people come back to their homes and letting Mogadishu society rehabilitate from 2 years of brutal-Ethiopian occupation, he has triggered another conflict.

After having spend in peacefull Asmara the entire 2 years of brutal EThiopian occupation which displaced 850.000 people out of Mogadishu, killed 17.000 people and wounded 80.000 people the religious warlord is back in MOgadishu creating another humanitarian crisis. While dressed in a nice outfit and looking healthy warlord Aweys wants to drag the war-tired people into another conflict. His arrival in Mogadishu city and the outbreak of the major conflict between the religious factions is no coincidence.

Xunduf, Cumar Cadaan's fighters are doing the the fighting for ´´ciidamada alshabab´´ On the other side, Qeybdiid´s fighters are doing the fighting for ´´cidamada dowlada´´ Some opportunists and warlords in Mogadishu are involved.

Xunduf, Fighting amids residential area's, shelling residential area's and constantly pushing for gaining power is what made the previous warlords despised. Aweys perfectly fits that picture now.

Dukey, Just reminding those who can not think and reason past round 1 to what they are wishing and cheering for.

Originally posted by Xaaji_xundjuf: With Melez zanawi help and 30.000 troops from mekele and gonder. Don’t forget that part dukey. LOOOOOOL Your adeero were like cheerleaders, nurses and cookers for the 30.000 Ethiopian troops. Go to rest old man, and visit your Adeer in Yemen please.

As I said, his spokespersons would receive the signal LOL Zeylaci I DESPISE warlords of any nature. I despise any individual or group using force to place their will upon free people. Hence, the reason I oppose all the current factions and hence why I want the people to arm themselves, become independent from the current factions for their security. Who will defeat them, you ask? The former loyal supporters of Qanyare, Muse Suudi etc were also asking that question before 2006, yet we dont see them anno 2009. You do the math.

Xaaji, Remember one thing: Alshabab winning in Mogadishu = Hargaisa and Bosaso next and considering the fact that those cities have never endured sustained fighting it will be a walk in the park.

JC my adeero defeated the clowns My adeero? LOOOOL Your adeero? You mean the old quisling who is now in exile in Yemen? Or the Ethiopian soldiers? Are they your ''adeero''? LOOOOL Move on old man, A.Y the quisling was the last person on earth who would succeed in subjugating Mogadishu. Just move on and go see a doctor who can guide you to overcome the mental depression you have been in to ever since your ''Adeer'' was broken and forced to spend his last days in Yemen.

Qaxa Farabadan oo saakay ka taagan xaafado ka mid ah Magaalada Muqdisho oo xalay oo dhan ay ku dagaalameen dhinacyada iska soo horjeeda. Shabelle: MUQDISHO Barakac xoogan ayaa saakay laga dareemayaa qaar ka mid ah xaafadaha Magaalada Muqdisho iyadoo meelaha qaarna ay gabaabsi yihiin dhaq dhaqaaqii gaadiidka BL-ka. Aroornimadii hore ee saakay ayaa waxaa uu barakac xoogan ka bilowday degmooyinka Yaaqshiid,Wardhiigle ey iyo qeybo ka mid ah wadada warshadaha halkaasi oo dagaalo xoogan maalintii 4-aad ay ku dhexmaryaan xoogaga muqaawamada. Wadooyinka waaweyn ee ka soo baxa degmooyinkaasi ayaa waxaa saakay lagu arkayay dad farabadan oo barakac ah oo ka cararayay hoygooda kuwaasi oo isugu jira Caruur,dad da’ah iyo haween madaxyada ku sida alaabo kala duwan iyo sidoo kale gawaari sidda dad barkac ah oo ka cararaya dagaalada iyo madaafiicda ay is weydaarsanayaan labada dhinac. Barkacayaani ayaa noqonaya kii ugu horeeyay ee ka dhashay magaalada Muqdisho tan iyo markii gudaha Magaalada Muqdisho iyo guud ahaan dalka Soomaaliya ay isaga baxeen ciidamadii Ethiopia ee mudada labada sano aheeyd ku sugnaa. Qaar ka mid ah dadka barakacaya ayaa Shabelle u sheegay in ay la anfariirsanyihiin dagaalada dadka barakiciyay ee dhexmaraya xoogaga Hubayan ee shalay halka meel ka wada dagaalamayay. Gaadiidkii isticmaalayay wadada warshadaha ayaa ah ku si teel teel ah halkaasi u isticmaalaya waxaana gawaaradaasi qaarkood gaar ahaan kuwa loo yaqaan hoomayda ay dhexmarayaan xaafadaha qarda jeexa ah ee ay mari jireen xiligii ay joogeen ciidamada Ethiopia. Aqriso oo la soco Shabelle.net Saacad Walba si aad u hesho wararkii ugu dambeeyay ee Soomaaliya.

Dukey, Still stuck in the past of 1991. Move on old man and dont become a broken record. -------------------- -------------------- -------- Mogadishu people should not wait till they are displaced by fighting factions! They should secure their own neighbourhoods and fight off every intruder into those neighbourhoods. If the people fail to create ciidamo madani ah then they will be displaced every time powerhungry factions fight over power amids heavily populated area's.

He got loyal supporters and self-styled spokespersons on this forum.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Meiji: adeer Mogadishu has fallen many times over. To the USC, to the warlords, to the clan courts, to TFG/allies. Now its being fought over. Thus its a fluid situation and these same fighters fought Ethiopia so who are they to be afraid of your imaginary Mogadishu fighters? Also who are these "Mogadishu: people you are talking about. The only group saving Sharif Ahmed right now are A/Qaybdeed and Sacid Dheere's troops, your clan courts have been routed last night. Thus keep up lad. PS: these news portals are from your clan and not anything Duke did. Dukey, You are wrong old man, you should always wait to the last round and not celebrate in the 1st round while the whole conflict is not over. Mogadishu was invaded but it never fell. Learn the difference. Ethiopian forces and their Somali dogs of TFG invaded Mogadishu but they never subjugated the city. The Islamic Courts succeeded to dislogde the warlords but they never subjugated Mogadishu city as they were incompetent to lead. Mogadishu people are the inhabitants of the city who have endured every hardship thrown at them but never broke and went on their knees. From 1991 to 2009, they have seen factions come and leave since they could not place their will upon Mogadishu people. The religious warlords will fail, just watch till the last round. The current conflict will stimulate and accelerate the adoptation of: Mogadishu Security Plan: Civil Security Force

Aweys: You will be defeated like the previous warlords.

Aweys your fitna is displacing your own people from their neighbourhoods : -------------------- -------------------- -------- Qaxa Farabadan oo saakay ka taagan xaafado ka mid ah Magaalada Muqdisho oo xalay oo dhan ay ku dagaalameen dhinacyada iska soo horjeeda. Shabelle: MUQDISHO Barakac xoogan ayaa saakay laga dareemayaa qaar ka mid ah xaafadaha Magaalada Muqdisho iyadoo meelaha qaarna ay gabaabsi yihiin dhaq dhaqaaqii gaadiidka BL-ka. Aroornimadii hore ee saakay ayaa waxaa uu barakac xoogan ka bilowday degmooyinka Yaaqshiid,Wardhiigle ey iyo qeybo ka mid ah wadada warshadaha halkaasi oo dagaalo xoogan maalintii 4-aad ay ku dhexmaryaan xoogaga muqaawamada. Wadooyinka waaweyn ee ka soo baxa degmooyinkaasi ayaa waxaa saakay lagu arkayay dad farabadan oo barakac ah oo ka cararayay hoygooda kuwaasi oo isugu jira Caruur,dad da’ah iyo haween madaxyada ku sida alaabo kala duwan iyo sidoo kale gawaari sidda dad barkac ah oo ka cararaya dagaalada iyo madaafiicda ay is weydaarsanayaan labada dhinac. Barkacayaani ayaa noqonaya kii ugu horeeyay ee ka dhashay magaalada Muqdisho tan iyo markii gudaha Magaalada Muqdisho iyo guud ahaan dalka Soomaaliya ay isaga baxeen ciidamadii Ethiopia ee mudada labada sano aheeyd ku sugnaa. Qaar ka mid ah dadka barakacaya ayaa Shabelle u sheegay in ay la anfariirsanyihiin dagaalada dadka barakiciyay ee dhexmaraya xoogaga Hubayan ee shalay halka meel ka wada dagaalamayay. Gaadiidkii isticmaalayay wadada warshadaha ayaa ah ku si teel teel ah halkaasi u isticmaalaya waxaana gawaaradaasi qaarkood gaar ahaan kuwa loo yaqaan hoomayda ay dhexmarayaan xaafadaha qarda jeexa ah ee ay mari jireen xiligii ay joogeen ciidamada Ethiopia.