Well we always ask the West to understand us! Thus is it appropriate to reverse the trend..in here please note it is not a call to alter belief but more of mutual co-existance. Do we Muslims understand the West? Are there important issues or questions which should be discussed for the success of such dialogues? This thread is mainly meant for a Muslim perspective on the dialogue with the West, and questions which you may wish to address. What do you think are the current main obstacles and what are the main pre-requisites for a successful dialogue from a Muslim perspective?

The right man for the job...indeed..! "Kulan adag oo shalay dhex maray beelaha ***** ayaa la isku mari waayay ka dib markii uu Col C/llaahi yuusuf uu ku gacansayray talooyin ay soo jeediyeen gudiga dhexdhexaadin ah oo ka socday isla beeshaas. Col C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmad ayaa ku adkaysanaya in uu isagu xaq u leeyahay in uu magacaabo xubnaha soo gaaray beesha maadaama uu isagu u taliyo dawlad gobaleedka ay beelahaasi leeyihiin ee ka jra puntland, halka ay siyaasiyiinta iyo waxgaradka kale intiuba ku adkaysanayaan in ay habbon tahay in ay beel ahaan iyo jufo jufo wax u qaybsadaan " Read more on C/llaahi Yuusuf Oo Diiday Talada Gudiga Khilfaadka Ee Beeshiisa, Please spare us the senseless propoganda

^^^ waa bilabatey....

Originally posted by Aeryn Sun: Ahem....lets leave the demented NGONGE out of this please. Guess he forgot to say goodbye this morning...evidently..!

Originally posted by Aeryn Sun: [QB I wouldn't let her. [/QB] eh..eh..eh how about I sort out the lil problem with you and adeer Ngonge, them am I clear Ayrun.

Originally posted by Northerner: [quote OG girl make sure u go to Burco sis, if you dont, well you havent 'really' been to Somaliland. Look at this confussion what has Og-girl got to do with this...?

Bachelor na kala ilali sxb...Mida kale your nick contradicts your claim. And f you dont retreive your claim ..korkada aa sidi qoransho camal layga rad-radina...imataqaniide.

Here you have someone who deep down believes that Galkacyo is not a city with 2 paved streets, it has no sand, and reer Galkacyood are baalashyaal in Benadir, Kismayo, and Nairobi . Yes Bashi as opposed to a city with suburbs. All in all, Caqiidku is dictator but for carrying out loud don't ask Jamatutu about CY And I will never have questioned him if as you say was presented as a dictator rather than Mother Teressa. For carrying out loud you don't have to have good credentials to declare ur candidacy. And certainly you need 185 votes from afar jeeblayaal, warlord admirers, ex-ministers...if u wanna know why he should be elected ask them. That I agree with you...so lets wait for the outcome.

Originally posted by Seven of Nine: Ma inantaada ayaad u quudhi Jumatatu? *nods head* :rolleyes: Do i sense jealousy in here..hmmm..! Dont worry Seven it is eighteen years before she can have her claims on me..hence you will have amble time of me..unless I seek other pasture....

SmithNwestern I think your presentation is more rational than the blind supporters> However it is also refined and well spinned. You say So I still dont see anyone better than Abdullahi, who has 1/3 of Somalia, wants to play on a national level, a prven track record on security and is not interested in money? proven track record on security will that include killing opponents, disregard for the mass killing of innocent people in the process of achieving to get the helm at Puntland. keeping in mind today that he also does not have total support of Puntland authorieties. Capturing forcefully Las/canod on the pretext of not being part of Puntland, but its inhabitants are that of his clan. Hence utterly ignoring the consequence it would bring to a peacefull region. But profing the point that he strives on conflict. He rules Puntland by force and the relative peace or security as you call is due to him being feared, ok fine if the Puntlanders want to have it that way good, but dont force feed it on the rest of the nation. Having said that, seriously speaking , I dont think he is the worst than any other warlords vyiung for the position, that is why I suppport that Amnesty International should first approve of the candidates then we will see who remains in the list...none. Go Galleydh Go..!

^^^ yes she is happily married to me...and guys please stop spreading rumnours about my other half as she is not here in person to respond....if she was here most of you would have dared to mention her...she is ferocious...yep my girl Og-Gal.. :mad: :mad:

As is usual with every Monday morning, my colleagues came in and started updating me on their private lives and asking for my help in solving their problems. Please dont fail them as you failed me..Now forget about reerki even the Xalimo does not want to talk to me....so much for seeking your assistance. I should have gone ahead with my snatch plan.. :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by Sophist: The third Somali Republic is for ALL SOMALIS! That is a very far reaching dream...so what are you saying people of other countries such, zone 5, NFD, Djibouti and Somaliland will be included in the Somali republic..? :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by muraad: Prime Minster: Og Girl Though it is a hypothetical I thought nominees should be on Somalis from the former Somali Republic...as far as my knowledge is concerned Og-irl is not from there. OG Girl is from Zone five in Ethiopia, so how we can make our prime -minister some one known internationally as a Ethiopian citizen

First and foremost anyone who seeks to be a president in Somalia today will obviously be facing a tough task and should be prepared and know what is required of him/her. Above all the background of such a person should not be tainted and should be a person who has a conviction and commitment to the work ahead. Numerous peole have put their names in the hat and just by glancing at the names it makes one puke. One of them Abdullahi Yusuf whom is being presented here as a saviour and a great leader capable of leading Somalia ( God spare us the thought). Now in most cases when you are seeking a service of any kind you carry out a background check of the supplier and see if he has satisfied previous customers. Hence if the Somali citizen had the oppurtunity of doing just that before selecting any of the candidates for the job, am sure that they will not only be discarded but banned from even participating, but alas such chance is absent. Now for those of you who is masquerading Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf here please show a lil respect for our knowledge of him. This man became a savior of his supressed clan first, then the mastermind behind an entire state called Puntland and now he'll be most likely the president of the Democratic Republic of Somalia Insha Allah. He sure as hell got my vote. As far as your vote is concerned you can go and vote for Papa Doc for all I care but please stop this sham definition of a warlord. May be you could answer this C/llahi Yusuf is responsible for the dead of while he was head of SSDF (1) Caydiidki Dhulbante, (2) His own brother in law 'Ina cirid-yambo',that is only top known figures there are countless other murders attitributed to him. He simply eradicated those whom he deemed are a threat to his helm and supporters. Recently in Galkacyo he was responsible for the barbaric killing of 'Ugaaska Moxamud Cumar', and ironically of the killing of his own cousin Bixii. Leave all that, he organised an armed and blood shed coup against the preseident of the Puntland Regional Government, Jama Ali Jama, which resulted to the killing of many innocent civilians. he has banned all religion organisations in Puntland on the pretext of US fight against Al-Qaeda and ordered the arrest and handing over of nominal Sheikhs to Ethiopia in the fight against terrorism. The man strives on conflict and manupilative control. For heavens sake 'beenta ka xishowda'.

^^^ I second that nomination, but on purely different reasons. First it is as described cerimonial thus his organisation or leadership will not be required..which will spare us from his controversial ideas. Prime Minister = DA : for her no nonsense approach and opinionated mind, and also firm to her stance. Since the position requires a strong charecter then I suugest this unwavering lady. Speaker of The House = Ngonge not only wil he silence the talkative MP's but himself also..

^^ apropriately said.....

^^^ *two thumbs up* ^^^ (am begining to see the appropriatness of this remark)

Originally posted by Rainbow: I apparently the coach carrying the flag which was not good as Somalia is Gold winner once and some good athlete should have represented the country! Good luck to them Very good Rainbow, and I wish them the best also in at least achieving a medal..and as you the flag bearer should have been at least someone famous such as ABdi Bile, as he has done in several previous Olympics. Note we have yet to win a medal in the Olympics, Bile only won two World Championships. Never the less it was heart warming to see the Blue flag among the Flags of nations in Athens tonite.

First and foremost sxb w/s & welcome, and yeah as you say Ngonge is not the least respected in here. And as of age he is the oldest being 19....but now I guess u beat him to it... welcome again

Originally posted by Boolbaro: caweeska caawa caliyaale waaye yahoow madiino maniid agteeda imaatid danbas aa korkaa ka kicinaa Maka taqaan nin caweys wax ka yaqaan, afkada kala her aan ku dhahey karood ku dilye.

Are you still in the toilet sxb ? If you are I would have suggested a remedy to get rid of that nausea you are suffering from. It is common what you are feeling especially after you have been deprived of for such a long time.

Originally posted by NGONGE: There are millions of these women everywhere you go these days. :mad: Xaasha...How did u know saxiib..? Anyway cant you see the story was reported by Al Facshir paper. I thought that will give you a hint that the whole thing is yet another new topic by Mr. Mistri himself Il Capo (di tutti capo) aka Somalisujui..etc....

sxb it is evidently clear that you are still stuck with the four channels.....something serioiusly needs to be done before u start thinking you can fly.....knowing that u live on a sixth floor apartment. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Salafi_Online: ^^^^ Kufr comes in many forms my dear! anyone who rejects a Hadith that is authentic that does not support the Quran, like stoning and others, is a kafir wheter he says the Shahadatain 1000000000 times or more, it constitutes the rejection of Allah's messenger! The irony in here is when a mere human associates himself with powers only related to Allah SWT, that is when one says to another believer you are 'kufaar''. As for rejecting a hadith that does not support the Quran...would I be labeled as kuffar if I reject this hadeeth: "Narrated Qatadah: Anas Bin Malik (RA) said, "The Prophet (s) used to visit all his wives in a round, during a day and night and they were eleven in number. I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet (s) the strength for it?" Anas replied, we used to say that The Prophet (s) was given the strength of 30 (men)" . On a second note Salafi your signature go as this : Have U seen him who has taken as his GOD his own desires? Would U then be a disposer of his affairs or a watcher over him? Or do U tink tat most of tem hear or understand? They are only like cattle nay they are even further astray from the Path 25:43...hence it is your interpretation of Sura Al-Furqan verse 25....However having re-read the English interpretation of that verse it goes like this Or deemest thou that most of them hear or understand? They are but as the cattle, nay, but they are farther astray! Mis-interpretation of the Holly Quran and trying to be the judge and jury in matters concerning it is best described as being astray.