Hee zack ma 12 jiir baad tahay oo oba wuxu ku leeyahay maxa qabilka ku baray iyo diidmada nimanka Asharafta i mean sharif Ahmed lol

Passerby Tigray and Kukuyos Luo's and Amharas are all the same to us why do you care what happens between Somalia and Kenya

Oba ma waxad leedahay Zack Sharifka Qabil bu ku diidanyahay wa arin cajib ah taasi

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Madaxwayne Ku Xigeenka Somaliland Oo Furay Maxjar Labaad Oo Shirkada Saleebaan Al-Jabiri Ka Hirgalisay Magaalada Berbera Iyo Wasiirka Xanaanada Xoolaha Oo Sheegay In Maxjarka Qaranku Leeyahay Berbeara (Ramaas) Oct 18,2011 – Madaxwayne ku xigeenka Somaliland oo maanta furay maxjar labaad oo shirkadda ganacsadaha reer Sucuudi Arabiya ee Saleebaan Al-jabiri uu ka hirgaliyey Magaalada Berbera ee gobolka Saaxil. Madaxwaynaha Somaliland oo Magaalada Berbera ku tagay diyaar khaas ah oo loogu tallo-galay wakiilka shirkada Saleebaan Al-jabiri oo magaciisu yahay Xasan Khalaf Al-Xasani ayaa waxa sidoo kale wehelinayey wasiirka wasaarada xanaanada xoolaha Dr Cabdi Aw Daahir iyo wasiirka wasaradda duulista hawada iyo gaadiidka cirka Md Maxamuud Xaashi Cabdi. Wakiilka shirkadda Al-jaabiri Xasan khlaf oo halkaasi ka hadlay ayaa sheegay inay ku faraxsan yihiin inay Somaliland ka hirgaliyaan maxjar labaad oo lagu caafmaadiyo xoolaha u dhoofaya wadanka Sucuudiga iyo guud ahaan wadamada Khaliijka Carabta. Wakiilku waxa uu sheegay in dhismaha Maxjarkani ay ku baxday lacag badan, balse uu faa’iido badan u leeyahay xoolaha Somaliland ee u dhoofaya dalka dibadiisa, ujeedada ay u sameeyeena ay tahay inay kordhiyaan xoolaha ay Somaliland ka qaataan. Wasiirka wasaarada xanaanada xoolaha Somaliland Dr Cabdi Aw Daahir Cali oo isna munaasibada xadhiga lagaga jaray ka hadlay ayaa sheegay in Maxjarkani uu yahay mid Somaliland leedahay balse ay maamulkiisa ay gacanta ku hayso shirkada Al-jabiri, mar kasta oo heshiiska dawladu la gashay shirkadu dhammaadana dawlada ayaa la wareegaysa, iyadda oo wasaarada xanaanada xooluhu dalka uga wakiil tahay.” Ayuu yidhi wasiirka wasaarada xanaanda xoolaha Somaliland Dr Cabdi Aw Daahir Cali. Madaxwaynaha ku xigeenka Somaliland Md Cabdiraxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) oo isna halkaa ka hadlay ayaa sheegay inay xukuumad ahaan iyo shacab ahaanba soo dhaweynayaan maxjarkan labaad ee shirkada Al-jabiri ka hirgalisay Magaalada Berbera, isaga oo tilmaamay in maalgashigu Somaliland iyo maalgashadayaashaba dani ugu jirto “Anaga farxad ayay noo tahay, waanuna soo dhawaynaynaa, maalgalintuna waa mid labada darafba dan u ah oo Somaliland in maalgalin lagu sameeyo dan ayaa ugu jirta, maalgaliyayaashana dan ayaa ugu jirta, waxaanuna mar walba soo dhawaynaynaa cid kasta oo dalkan wax gashanaysa faa’idana u soo kordhinaysa dalka.”

M/weyne Ku Xigeenka Oo Xadhiga Ka Jaray Maxjarkii Labaad Ee Shirkada Al-jaabiri Iyo Mashaariic Kale October 18th, 2011 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Somaliland, Mudane, C/raxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) ayaa maanta xadhiga ka jaray dhismaha maxjar labaad oo Ganacsadaha Sucuudiyaanka ah ee Saleebaan Al-jaabiri ka hirgelisay magaalada xeebta ah ee Berbera ee gobolka Saaxil. Madaxweyne ku xigeenka oo ka hadlay furitaankii Maxjarkaasi ayaa soo dhaweeyay maalgelinta uu ganacsadahaasi ku sameeyay dalka waxaanu yidhi “Farxad ayay noo tahay in aanu furno maxjarkii labaad ee shirkadani maalgalisay oo sida noo muuqata runtii waa maxjar balaadhan markaa gacmo wada jira ayay ku gooyaan waxaanay muujinaysaa wax wada qabsiga beesha caalamka iyo dawlada Somaliland, waxaanan diyaar u nahay markasta inaan soo dhaweyno cid kasta oo wax gashanaysa dalkan iyo dadkan faa’iidana isoo kordhinaysa isaguna ka faa’iidaysanaya.” Wasiirka xanaanada xoolaha Dr Cabdi Aw Daahir oo xafladaasi ka hadlay ayaa sheegay in bishan carafo hal dollar laga dhimi doono lacagtii xoolaha laga qaadi jiray, waxaana hadalkiisii kamid ahhaa ahaa “Horta maxjarkan waa maxjar qaranku leeyahay waxaana maamulka shirkada Sucuudi Imaaraat ee maamusha maxjarada Al Jabiri, waxaanu hal dollar ka dhinay qiimihii xoolaha dhoofka laga qaadi jiray bisha Carafo, sanadka cusubna in aanu dib u eegno oo u qiimayno in intaa laga sii badiyo.ayaan rajaynaynaa.” Wakiilka Shirkada Sucuudi Imaaraat ee maamusha maxjarada shirkada Al-jabiri Mr. Xasan Qalaf Xasani ayaa u mahad naqay xukuumada Somaliland iskaashiga iyo wada shaqaynta ka dhaxaysa waxaanu tilmaamay inay dhiirigeliso mashaariicda ay ka fuliyaan dalka. Wakiilku waxa uu intaasi ku daray in maxjarkani uu faa’iido u yeelan doono wadanka, waxaanu xusay in maxjarkan cusub bedkiisu yahay 3km oo isku wareeg ah. Wakiilku waxa uu sheegay in shirkadiisu ay horumarinta gobolka Saaxil ugu deeqday adduun dhan 70 kun oo Dollar. Sidoo kale waxa uu madaxweyne ku xigeenka xadhiga ka jaray mashaariic kala duwan oo wasaaradda Duulista iyo Hawaddu ka hirgalisay madaarka Berbera iyo jid laami ah oo dhererkiisu yahay 350M, waxaana mashaariicdaasi faahfaahiyay oo ka warbixiyay wasiirka Duulista iyo hawada Md. Maxamuud Xaashi, waxana uu yidhi “Mashaariicdan waa mashaariicdii ay xukuumadani u balan qaaday bulshada Somaliland, gaar ahaan gobolkan Saaxil kuwaasi oo horumarinaya kaabayaasha dhaqaale guud ahaan mashaariicdan waa kow iyo toban mashruuc oo la xidhiidha jidadka iyo casriyaynta madaarka Berbera.” Sidoo kale madaxweyne ku xigeenka waxa uu kormeer ku tagay dekeda caalamiga ah ee Berbera dhismayaasha cusub ee ka socda iyo qaybaha cusub ee lagu kordhiyay waxaanu halkaasi madaxweyne xigeenka warbixin ku siiyay maareeyaha dekeda Berbera Axmed Yuusuf Dirir, waxa kale oo madaxweyne ku xigeenku kormeer ku tagay garoonka kubada cagta ee magaalada Berbera oo dhismihiisu wado dawlada hoose ee Berbera. Maayarka ayaa ka warbixiyay garoonkan magaalada Berbera waxaana uu yidhi “Garoonkan waxa aanu ugu tallo-galnay mid lagu qabto xitaa ciyaaraha Afrika, waxa nashqada ku jira qaybtii VIP-da meeshii diyrayska lagu kala bedelanaaya si dadku aanay isku arag.” Madaxweyne xigeenka Somaliland iyo wefdigiisu waxa kale oo kormeeray haamaha kaydka shidaalka ee Berbera, waxaanay maantaba ku soo noqdeen Hargeysa.

is the topic not about Puntland

What does Faroole meeting a British Minister got to do with Siilanyo or Xaaji Xunjuf you are living in a different world.

Naxar in the big cities of Somaliland people do not carry big guns or Kalashnikovs and M16, except (Ciidanka Qaranka) Somaliland armed forces. Somalia are you saying Puntland is not a clan state lol

I can't believe after 13 years after the establishment of the Clan enclave in garowe people still freely roam Carrying heavy guns in the big cities and towns ilka jiir is right these people need to be disarmed ASAP.

Ahmed Mohamoud Silyano:The Other Horn of Africa Posted on 18/10/2011 HARGEISA – Drought, famine, refugees, piracy, and the violence and terrorism endemic to the shattered city of Mogadishu, a capital ruined by civil war: these are the images that flash through peoples’ minds nowadays when they think of the Horn of Africa. Such perceptions, however, are not only tragically one-sided; they are short-sighted and dangerous. Behind the stock images of a region trapped in chaos and despair, economies are growing, reform is increasingly embraced, and governance is improving. Moreover, with Yemen’s government imploding across the Red Sea, the Horn of Africa’s strategic significance for maritime oil transport has become a primary global security concern. In short, the Horn of Africa is too important to ignore or to misunderstand. Of course, no one should gainsay the importance of combating famine, piracy, and terrorist groups like the radical and murderous Al-Shabaab. But, at the same time, we have seen my homeland, Somaliland, witness its third consecutive free, fair, and contested presidential election. And Ethiopia has emerged as one of the world’s fastest-growing economies, with GDP up 10.9% year on year in 2010-2011, rivaling China and leading Africa. Indeed, Ethiopia is one of the few countries in the world poised to meet the United Nations’ Millennium Development Goals on time and in full in 2015. In the wider region, too, things are looking up. South Sudan gained its independence this July at the ballot box. And Uganda has discovered large new deposits of oil and gas that will help to lift its economy. All of these changes reflect the fact that the Horn of Africa’s peoples are no longer willing to be passive victims of fate and their harsh physical environment. On the contrary, they are determined to shape their destinies through modernization, investment, and improved governance. After decades of stable enmities, the peoples and nations of the Horn of Africa are learning how to cooperate and align their interests. For example, Somaliland and Ethiopia are collaborating on the construction of a gas-export pipeline from Ethiopia’s ****** region, promising new jobs and income for people in one of the poorest and least developed parts of the world. Although there is much that we can and will do to help ourselves, the Horn of Africa can still benefit from international assistance. But the international community needs to do more than provide food and medicine to victims of famine and drought. Necessary as that is, we need pro-growth investments that will help provide jobs for our peoples and products and resources for the world. That means focusing on promoting market economies and stable government, rather than subsidizing failure and failed states. Unfortunately, at least with respect to Somaliland, this is not the case. For 20 years, ever since we re-established our independence – we had voluntarily joined with Italian Somaliland to form Somalia in 1960 – the international community has closed its eyes to the successful democracy that we have built. Even more perverse, it appears to be demanding that we abandon the peaceful, tolerant society that we have established and submit to the control of whatever government – if there even is one – rules (or misrules) the remainder of Somalia from the rubble of Mogadishu. Our successful democratic experiment is being ignored in part because of a hoary ruling a half-century ago by the Organization of African Unity, the precursor to today’s African Union. Back then, with the recent demise of the colonial empires stoking fears of tribal rivalries and countless civil wars, the OAU ruled that the frontiers drawn up by the imperial powers should be respected in perpetuity. That taboo still claims routine support from many African leaders. And yet Eritrea’s secession from Ethiopia did not lead to other breakaway movements in Africa. Likewise, South Sudan’s peaceful, and internationally supported, separation from Sudan has not led to new calls for Africa’s borders to be redrawn. A 2005 report by Patrick Mazimhaka, a former AU deputy chairman, cast heavy doubt on the application of this rule in Somaliland. As Mazimhaka pointed out, the union in 1960 between Somaliland and Somalia, following the withdrawal of the British and Italian colonial powers, was never formally ratified. But his report has been left in a drawer ever since. So when should a people be able to declare their independence and gain international recognition? The Palestinians’ decision to take their case to the UN has put this issue on the front burner. International law is of no help here; indeed, the World Court has offered only scant guidance. The basic principles that I believe should prevail, and which Somaliland meets, are the following: · Secession should not result from foreign intervention, and the barriers for recognizing secession must be high; · Independence should be recognized only if a clear majority (well over 50%-plus-one of the voters) have freely chosen it, ideally in an unbiased referendum; · All minorities must be guaranteed decent treatment. All three of Somaliland’s parties adamantly support independence, confirmed overwhelmingly by a referendum in 2001. So there is no question of one clan or faction imposing independence on the others. Yet, although Somaliland is deepening its democracy each day, our people are paying a high price because of the lack of international recognition. World Bank and European Union development money, for example, pours into the black hole that is Somalia, simply because it is the recognized government. Somalilanders, who are almost as numerous as the people of Somalia, are short-changed, getting only a fraction of the money invariably wasted by Somalia. Justice demands that this change. The national interest of most of the world’s powers requires a Somaliland willing and able to provide security along its borders and in the seas off our coasts. Our people are willing. But, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, give us the tools, and the international recognition, so that we can finish the job. Ahmed M. Mohamoud Silyano is President of Somaliland. Source:PS

Because Ciidanka qaranka remains even Somaliland political leadership changes we even have a different foreign policy now and days the whole reason why kulmiye was elected was because of the need of change. Leave my Canjeelo alone waryaa

supporting the invasion of your country from a next door neighbor smh

Times change ideologies change people change clothes Change

Well some people believe Kenya is the lesser evil of the two but Foreign intervention will cause only more destruction in already famine hit Somalia and will legitimize the jihad of AS to some extend. And some people think Alshabaab needs to be destroyed by any means necessary how high the cost of innocent lives might be.

No man tell me i haven't hadaan xabad canjeelo cunaya maba eegin wax kale

So che do you support the kenyan invasion or not do you think they are there to help what ever regional state or fictional Government in Somalia.

Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia. The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem. Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum. If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum. Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units. The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism. Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state. Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle. Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line. The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million. Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli. In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan. For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi. We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country. When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin. Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us. Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100. International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either. But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place. If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal. The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful

Abtigis has thrown in the towel and has abandoned Gandi And Ahmed Blackie Abtigis are you supporting Mr Hassan turki and the Jihad against the Kenyan Crusaders?

What evidence do you need their Tanks and troops are rolling inside Somalia as far as ceelwaaq as we speak

Jacfer sorry i don't chew i have clean bright shining white teeth you wanna see a picture of my teeth

Che -Guevara;752252 wrote: ^LoooooooooooL...You are joker. XX...So, let me see your logic, one colonial power transferring territory to another entitles the resulting state to all the lands lost by the first colonizer? Well that's how the Kenyans mind of logic works if the brits did not transfer the territory to Italy they believe they would have kept the territory the same way they have NFD.

xiinfaniin;752243 wrote: ^^ :D Xaaji and the rest of the secessionist crowd could care less about the notion of Somalia's territorial integrity. They will welcome anything that challenges that barrier. But I expect them to be reasonable in what they present as an argument here. I do care about Somalia's territorial integrity i do not want kenyans to take over Somalia heaven forbid

Well on 7 November 1890 Zanzibar became a British protectorate and on 1 july 1895 the sultanate ceded all of its Coastal possessions to British East Africa the Jubbaland territory became part of British East Africa contemporary Kenya Later Trans-Juba Oltre Giuba was given to the Italian Colonial governor Corrado Zoli and that's how it went now the Kenyans want it back.