^^Agreeing with the habash nothing new

i don't see his name there Jamac Maxammad qalib was part of the ARS i don't think he has anything to do with hiilqaran

Carafaat where does it say Jamac qalib was the founder of Hillqaran it doesn't say that on their site nor the other names you mentioned?

Muxu so doonaya?

He would call it a brave decision by the Coalition of the willing

Richard Dowden 20 October 2011 The model for Somalia is Switzerland. Don't laugh! Political power in Switzerland lies in the cantons - the 26 proud self-governing communities. The state, such as it is, deals with international matters and national law. Who cares - or even knows - who the president of Switzerland is. The way people live and are governed is decided locally. The Swiss confederation means that cantons have joined the state willingly and can leave if they want to. If they were a simple federation, they could not. Somalis - unlike the Swiss but like most Africans - are stuck with a constitution that leaves total power in the hands of a president. Strong centralised states are the legacy of colonial rulers and unsurprisingly the inheritor governments have kept it that way. Terrible wars - such as those in Nigeria, Ethiopia and Sudan - were fought to keep the countries together, but in the latter two they failed. In Somalia civil war began in the late 1980s and since then fragmentation has continued. Good. Leave it that way. It suits Somali society. The odd factor is that Somalia is one of only two sub-Saharan African states made up of a single ethnic group. The other being Botswana, the most peaceful country on the continent. But the Somalis are different. I realised that when I was having dinner with a minister at a restaurant in Hargeisa, the capital of Somaliland. One of the waiters recognised my host and having delivered the food, decided to give the minister an earful. In most African countries the man would have been dragged off to jail - or worse. But not only did the minister have to listen, he got to his feet and argued back. This was an argument between equals. "Every man his own Sultan" is how one Ugandan visitor described the Somalis in the mid 19th century. Its nomadic tradition makes it a very self-sufficient, individualistic society bound by complicated codes of loyalty and rivalry. Within families and clans it is a very hierarchical society. But between families and clans it is very level, competitive. Somalis regard everyone as an equal. And they are used to defending themselves. Traditionally disputes between Somalis were sorted out by the clan elders who would arrange compensation payments after clan or family battles or theft. In the north of Somalia, Somaliland, British indirect rule left the traditional leadership of clan elders - collectively known as the Gurti - in place. During colonial times Somaliland virtually managed itself and the Gurti retained respect and authority. That has carried through to present times and Somaliland is stable with political parties and democratic elections. Twice electoral disputes have reached crisis point in recent years. Each time the politicians have turned to the Gurti for a ruling which has been accepted by all. In the Italian-ruled south the Gurti was dismissed in colonial times but it still exists beneath the surface. Somalia's civil war began in the 1980s between clans in a winner takes all battle for total national power. The former British-ruled north west territory, Somaliland, declared independence. The north east, Puntland, also declared itself self governing until a proper government was restored. The centre, Galmudug, is also self governing. The war continues as a battle for Mogadishu, the capital and for the ports and fertile river valleys of the south. It has cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Although alliances have shifted, no formula has been devised that can bring peace at a national level. The only period of peace in the south was in 2005 when the clan warlords were defeated and Islamic courts took over the administration of justice and kept the peace. Some courts were harsh but southern Somalia was safe, trade and investment increased and people walked freely in the streets, A united peaceful Somalia however, especially under the rule of Islamic courts, was a threat to Ethiopia. The Ethiopians persuaded the Americans this was Islamic fundamentalism taking over. The Ethiopian invasion at the end of 2006, backed by the US and - shamefully - Britain which should have known better, in fact strengthened the fundamentalists. Three years later the Ethiopians were forced to withdraw and were replaced by an African peacekeeping force of Ugandan and Burundian troops. Since then they have managed to hold a small part of Mogadishu on behalf of a weak ineffective government most of whose members reside in Nairobi. The rest of the city and much of the south was at the mercy Al-Shabaab, an Islamic fundamentalist movement. But Shabaab made the crucial mistake of not letting foreign aid enter the country during the worst drought since the 1980s. That turned the drought into a famine and turned the people against Shabaab, forcing them out of Mogadishu and other areas to allow food aid to arrive. This presents the government - known as the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) - with an opportunity to prove itself and deliver food and security to the people. But this is unlikely to happen according to Professor Ken Menkhaus, a Horn of Africa specialist. "This is the TFG's best and probably last chance to do something right and capitalise on Al-Shabaab's weakness by showing that it can and will govern well" he says. "I wish I could say I am hopeful it will, but the TFG's track record so far points to the opposite conclusion - it has never missed the opportunity to miss an opportunity." The UN now talks glibly about restoring the Somali state and holding elections. This is the way to continue the war, not end it. Political parties in Somalia are little more than a cover for clans so an election simply elevates one clan over the others. Allow the government in Mogadishu to run the city and port, perhaps the Benadir region, but no further. Negotiations should then take place region by region about the relationship between them and the capital, leaving power in local - not national - hands. The zones should be soft bordered encouraging trade and dialogue between them. Taxes should be raised and spent locally. To act as the national security blanket a forum of clan leaders could be formed, joined by traders, businessmen, religious leaders, poets and musicians (both very important people in Somalia) - in fact a sort of Somali House of Lords to counterbalance the inept and greedy political class. This forum might turn into a body that negotiates between groups and chooses who should represent Somalia internationally and take the Somalia seat at the UN and represent Somalia in its diplomatic missions. But neither the forum nor the government should be given nationwide powers at street level. That should remain entirely local. Any attempt to create a powerful Somali state will ensure the civil wars will continue. That is especially true of Somaliland where the feeling against the south is still very bitter. Reunification with the south is unanimously opposed. Not a single Somalilander I know wants reunification. Not a single Somali from the rest of the country wants Somaliland to stay independent. Unless we are very careful, peace in the south of Somalia will mean war in the north.

Dagaalo iyo duqeymo maalintii afraad ka socda Deyniile Xaalada degmada Deyniile ee gobolka Banaadir ayaa maalinti afraad cakiran iyadoo ay dagaalo iyo duqeymo xoog lihi ay isku dhaafsanayaan ciidamada is garabsanayo ee AMISOM iyo dowlada iyo Dhaq dhaqaaqa Al Shabab. Dagaalyahano ka tirsan Al Shabaab ayaa weli gacanta ku haya deegaano kamid ah degmada Deyniile sida isbitaalka ,xaruntii degmada iyo saldhiga degmada Deyniile halka ay ciidamada DKG gacantooda ay soo gashay dhul ballaaran oo u badan dhulka ay shacabku degenaayeen sida xaafada Tiida. Duqeyno xoog leh ayaa labadii maalmood ee la soo dhaafay si xoog leh loogu garaacayay degmadaasi iyadoo duqeymahaasina ay geysanayeen ciidamada AMISOM. Duqeymahasi ayaa waxaa ka dhashay in boqolaal qoys oo ku noolaa degamada Deyniile iyo deegaanada u dhow dhow ay ka barakacaan. Waxaana qoysaskasi ay dib ugu laabteen magaalada Muqdisho oo ay horay uga barakaceen. Duqeynta ay ciidamada AMISOM ku hayaan Daynile ayaa waxaa maamulka degmada Daayniile ee dowlada KMG ku sheegteen in ay ku dileen saraakiil ka tirsan Al Shabab. Gudoomiyaha degmada Dayniile Daahir Xasan Xuseen ayaa sheegay in ku dileen duqeymo xalay ka dhacay saraakiil sare oo ka tirsan Al Shabab. Ma jirto wax war ah oo kasoo baxay Al Shabab oo beeninaya warkaasi ama xaqiijinaya sheegashada Mr Daahir.

Allsanaag looool qof buka ba webka qora

Somaliland: foreign affairs minister meets Italian ambassador to Kenya Posted on 22/10/2011 Nairobi (JSLTimes.com)-Somaliland foreign affairs minister Dr. Mohamed Abdilahi Omar held a high level meeting with the new Italian ambassador to Kenya Mr. Andrea Mazzella who took office last week. The meeting was held in Somaliland’s representative office in Kenya’s capital of Nairobi which is located in downtown on Thursday. First, Somaliland foreign affairs minister briefed the Italian ambassador about Somaliland be it political, developmental, and security. The foreign minister deeply talked about the longstanding efforts and history that the people of Somaliland experienced in order to build their nation and most importantly, the recapture of their hard fought indolence. Dr. Mohamed Abdilahi Omar, Somaliland foreign affairs minister pointed out that Somaliland decided for itself, and lives side by side in peace and stability with its neighbors. The minister called upon the Italian ambassador to Kenya that the government of Somaliland and its people miss very much the role that the Italian government was supposed to take when it comes the achievements that Somaliland reached for the last twenty years be it security, multi-party democracy, and economy. Second, the Italian ambassador to Kenya Mr. Mazzella expressed that his government is ready to welcome the efforts that Somaliland made. He added that these steps taken by Somaliland in the right direction are visible to the world at large. He remarked that the Italian government is willing to have bilateral cooperation with Somaliland. He pointed out specifically the genuine role that Somaliland is playing when it comes to combating terrorism and piracy which pose a constant threat to the world at large. The two sides consented that further meetings be held focusing on cooperation and bringing the two nations closer. It was the first time ever since Somaliland regained its independence to hold a special meeting with the Italian government. This diplomatic move was seen as a stride taken in the right direction and will bring about that the two sides will have close bilateral relations. The former Italian ambassador to Kenya Mr. Stefano Dejak and Somaliland’s deputy representative office to Nairobi attended the meeting.

Oba are you saying the news is not true and the conference will be held in garowe

Yes its true it happened today

Carafaat in hargeysa Cabdalle Xaaji Ali wa laangaab this is not Sheikh and berbera lool

Dhimashooy dhimasho soo dhoowoow halkaad dhaaftay ka so dhaqaaaq

Welcome mr general There is no place like home Guryo so noqosho wanaagsan. General jamac maxammad qalib aw xassan muxumad

Looooooooool@ che

Jacaylbaro;752995 wrote: As a child, u not getting my point ubaxi kacaanka ma odayaal daxalaystey baad u haysatey loool

Jacaylbaro;752958 wrote: To the republic or to the Amisom ?? Why not to the republic of Amisom

Xiinfanin you are right but the garsoor issue is still not fully solved faroole handed over some of the check points to Clan locals allied to him who are tribally affiliated to the Garsoor Clan in fear they might defect to galmudug the situation is still fragile.Oba the imaam is busy with other stuff don't interrupt him man first Saracen and now Amisom .

Darwiish going to uganda wahagaag Watan Calan waabiyaa aasa weheliya wiilasha Museveni Watan wadada loo maro wabiyasha ku wabireyestaye eh Watan aan wax kale wayaa eeh Bahuku Wehel ka dhigtaye

They are coming faroole is losing grip in parts of his Clan enclave mainly in Galkacyo General Bahuku is there to assist him.

Interesting mr yoweri museveni is expanding his territory

Abtigis Axmed abdi godane is a product of the former dictatorial regime of Somalia he grew up in that kind of society i think even the socialist Marxist regime shaped his personality and made him this extreme to reject any form of Modern Governance. Ahmed Godane was born and grew up in hargeysa back than part of the former failed Republic of Somalia but he is not to blame the society he grew up and the governmental environment that he found him self in back than is to blame for the outcome of his lately behavior.

Jb ma ubaxi kacaankaad ahaan jirtay anigu berigia 21 october masaajidka uun baan gali jiray cidiba waxba imay odhan jirin

October wa tee wa teeni