By the way naxar nugaleed Somaliland doesn't recognize cayn it calls it gobolka buhoodle unofficially but according to SL constitution buhodle is part of togdheer. Somaliland consists of six regions Awdal Borama Maroodijeex hargeysa is also the country's capital Saaxil berbera Togdheer burco Sanaag ceerigaabo Sool laascaanood

^^ Lol

Abdul according to aaliyaah there is a big khilaaf between Sh dalxiis and cabdi cawar

Dont need to the map says it all and i am not you're friend

Mario Somalia and Somaliland case is different Somaliland declared re- independence in 1991 and the country they once shared a union with fell into anarchy and clanish wars.That said the union of 1960 was an equal union even if Somalia refuse to agree on the dissolved Union its still legal. Because the O'gaden and nfd is different case they were forcefully Incorporated into Kenya and Ethiopia so they need to first get their independence from adis ababa and Nairobi.

Mario B;801288 wrote: Yes, in which "Somaliland" is part of the failure, because clan warlords 21 years ago brought down the Central government and set up regional fiefdoms....that's why it's a failed state. You are part of the failure....:cool: Not really

Mario B;801286 wrote: Most Somalis are not secessionist like you and wont want their country broken into bits. Mario actually most Somalis are secessionists the Somalis in the O'gaden want an independent state the region is around 6 Million The one in kenya are also fighting for self determination on a different scale though but more based on regionalism. And you already know about Somaliland.

^Yes and the world recognizes Somalia as a failed state

AU troops to replace Ethopian forces in key Somali cities AFP – 38 mins ago New: Now the email button gives you a quick and easy way to start a conversation. African Union Commissioner for Peace and Security Ramtane Lamamra speaks in the Ethiopian … African Union troops are set to replace Ethiopian forces in two Somali cities recently taken from Shebab rebels, the AU Commissioner for the Peace and Security Council said Friday. By the end of April, over 2,500 Djiboutian, Burundian and Ugandan soldiers with the AU Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) are set to move into Beledweyne and Baidoa, where rebels were forced out by Ethiopian forces in recent months. "Ethiopian troops will not be needed anymore in both places," AU security head Ramtane Lamamra told reporters. Ethiopian troops and tanks rolled into Somalia in November to support the Somali transitional government in their fight against the al-Qaeda-linked Islamist militants. Ethiopia says it will leave Somalia as soon as stability is established, although it is far from clear how long that could take. Lamamra did not confirm whether Ethiopian troops will continue their push into Somalia. "For now, it's mission accomplished and AMISOM would be able to take over in both places," he said. Ethiopia's military incursion is currently receiving no outside financial support, Lamamra added, but he did not rule out extending Ethiopia's presence in future if greater funding could be secured. "If we succeed to work out some support package for Ethiopia, we may be in a position to request the government to consider the possibility to help us elsewhere," he said. The UN Security Council increased AMISOM troops by nearly 6,000 to 17,731 last month and agreed to provide equipment including helicopters and planes. AMISOM forces are in Somalia to stamp out Shebab rebels and support the country's Western-backed transitional government. In August, they took over the capital Mogadishu from the extremists, who have continued a series of guerrilla attacks on AU forces. In October, Kenyan militia moved in after a series of kidnappings and attacks it blamed on Shebab militants. International leaders met in London in February to pledge greater support for the Horn of Africa country which has been embroiled in a bloody civil war for over two decades.

MAQAL IYO MUUQAAL: Ururka Siyaasadeed Ee Xaqdhowr oo xafiisya ka furtey Magaalada Dhahar ee Xarunta gobolka Haylaan Written by Jaamac Nuur Muuse Dhahar (SPR): Urur Siyaasadeedka Xaqsoor waxa uu kamidyahay ururada siyaasadeed ee kusoo biirey ama ka tirsan deegaanada S/land. Ururka Xaqsoor ayaa mantay xafiis ka furtay magaalada Dhahar ee xarunta gobolka Hayland xili ay soo dhaw yihiin dorashooyinka dawladaha hoose ee maamulkaasi waana markii ugu hoaraysey ee xaflada lagu daaha furayo xafiska ururkani lagu qabto magaalada Dhahar Waxaana ka soo qayb galay dadweynaha qaybihiisa kala duwan oo ay kamid yihiin odayaasha dhaqanka,wax garadka, culimada iyo ururada haweenka, http://spr.fm/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3108:maqal-iyo-muuqaal-ururka-siyaasadeed-ee-xaqdhowr-oo-xafiisya-ka-furtey-magaalada-dhahar-ee-xarunta-gobolka-haylaan&

Make what difficult Mr Carab ciise is doing his job and that's what matters what others say is irrelevant.

Duke the minister did not mention anything about Somalilands quest for recognition he said the Somaliland govt will talk to the Somalia's govt and that Somaliland peace and stability is a must and we shall protect it he said also that SL has the right to protect its country from secessionist khaatumo,I don't think that is a crime.

Daahir calasow is a lost case

^^ it was posted on allpuntland puntlandpost puntlandi.com allboocame taleex.net i think all those sites are not Somaliland websites.

^^ maybe:D

^^^loool @ real taleex not a real credible source:D

^^ keep telling you're self fairy-tales and including Somaliland into you're clan federalism nonsense something beri hore daaha lo laabay Somalia its self will not have clan states in the long term.

Eng.Cadde;801160 wrote: I dont think hiiraan people want to do anything with galgaduud and vice versa.south mudug+galgaduud minus mareeg have two gobols and become one state.hiiraan should be given a special status while middle shabellle+lower shabelle+banadir as banadir state supersede the federal requirment.bay+bakool+middle jubba will make an excellent state while gedo+lower jubba is jubbaland.in reality it will look like this 1,somaliland(waqooyi galbeed,togheer and some parts of sanaag) 2.khatumo(sool,sanaag and cayn) 3.puntland(bari+nugaal and parts of mudug) 3.galmudug(south mudug,galgaduud) 4.banair state(lower shabelle+middle shabelle+mareeg and banadir) 5.bayland(bay,bakool and middle jubba) 6.jubbaland(gedo and lower jubba) and two more special status federal entites awdal state and hiiraan state. these 8 states will make the federal republic of somalia. Don't include you're clan federalism on the regions of the republic of Somaliland.

Gheelle.T;801158 wrote: ^Koorfurta inay gobolo noqoto waad ka soo horjeedaa, laakiin inaad go'did waa muqadas? Salaadu xaggay iska qaban la'dahay dee awoowe.? Gheelow maxay goboleysi bal taraysa bal no sheeg ma reer galkacyo inay sadex mamuul yeelaato ma in jubooyinka 3 mamuul yeelaato bal muxu baas oo goboleysigu keenaya aan ahayn kala daadsanan iyo qabi'l kala didsan.

Gheelle.T;801155 wrote: XX, soo adiga Galmudug taageersan. Hadalkaagu miyaanu is qilaafayn? Or see the Galmudug as weak clan state as well? Gheele anigu ma tageersani goboleysi laakin hada dee way jirta galmudug iyo ximan iyo xeeb laakin waxasi dan uma aha Somali in the long term dee wa qofki wax fahmaya. Markad mustaqbalka Somalida eegtid Galmudug pudhlayn ximan iyo xeeb waax iyo waadi raas caseer banadir state azania jubaland iyo qaar kalo badan oo aan ilaway,Waxba ma tarayso wa kala qu qub cusub uun oo u horseedaysa kala dadsanaan cusub ku dhisan beelo xal na maha.

Carafaat;801148 wrote: Duke, waxba ha is martiyeen. Galkacyo will be the undivided capital of Central Somali State. Abtiyaasha so raac oo la shaqee. :D:D

General Duke;801141 wrote: XX and the rest ofthe secessionists are worried about federalism or what they call clan federalism. If I was the SNM clan I would be worried too cause on the ground they do t have much land and hence the reason that they are breaking away from Somalia proper. Duke worry about what clan federalism will divide Somalia further into smaller clan fiefdoms that's what you pirates from the north want for Somalia in you're mind you are building you're clan state but you hope for the rest of the south to have several weak clan states.The people of Somalia will wake up and see the hypocrisy of the mini garowe clan state of the north it will take time but Somalia will rise inshallah with out clan federalism.

u kaadi u kaadi wax saasi igu ma jirin wa inyaro ti shiyuukdha uun eh ma karayo in bud la iso qaato ka waran hadu nin nuune la yidha bud ku sito waba habaar sidaasi eh. horta ninkaas nuune wabu iga shakisana xayraan bu ii yaqaana ha igu yeedhin.

Somalia;801126 wrote: Nah, we've always carried our brothers since birth, even when another brother came and told him to kill us 30 years ago, we still loved him, the 60 years before that, it was the same. He is misguided and we must help him, it's the black sheep of the family, he acts out, says to his parents "No, I am a big boy, I can go alone", but he can't. Garowe people are peace makers, everyone knows this, they love peace, I am one of the peace makers. You hate peace, stop hating peace. Peace, peace and more peace. lol ma waxad ku haysata berigi ay generalada ahayeen reerku ay Dawlada Somalia difaacayeen dee beriga waad qaldanaydeen kursiga General maxammad siyaad bare yaa idin ku yidhi u dhowada reerko bar taleex cunaysa oo cabaysa oo oo xamar landcruisero dhex eryaya oo nuurayaa baad tidhahdeen dawladanu ridayna. Waxan xasuusta niman from the garaad clan oo xamar colonels aha oo bleysyka xamar salaanta ka qaat oo cidi joojin karayn gawaadhida xidh xidhan guryahooda hor yaaleen. oo sharuubaha wada miiq miiqaya. Ayaad tidhahdeen dawlada wanu ridayna wan inu nin ka so jeeda PL dalka qabsada the gedo folks can't lead the nation. Hadaad tolka ugu hilin ifka ma akhiraad ugu hilin bay somalidu tidha.So how are you going to help him if you don't want to help him?

Mukulaalow;801125 wrote: Udba Lacag.loool. oo Xaaji, ileen nimanka lacagta ay leeyihiin waanu soo daabacaynaa ileen islaantii baaba udbaha lacag ku sidan jirtay. Haa nimanku lacagta hooyadood bay ka raceen wa duul xariir iyo dhal dhalaalka jecel hadana lacag u gaar ah bay samaysteen tallow ma waxay u bixin doonaan Pl shillings:D