Mario B;802284 wrote: All that changed in the London conference, they said any "independence" must come with the consent from " Villa Somalia " only then will the international community get involves, the old policy was if the AU does then the rest of the world will follow not anymore . To the international comunity, the "Somaliland" is the internal matter of Somalia . Keep misreading events, your enclave are good at it. :cool: There will be talks with Somalia with this current TFG or the government after that even though villa Somalia is a mess and there are Ugandans every where and mahiga is claiming Islamists took over Villa Somalia. The international community will be present when Somaliland and Somalia talk about their future relations as the London conference Communique stated. Somaliland and Somalia are two separate Countries we will see how the talks go and the out come i am hearing Somaliland is passing a new law regarding the future dialogue with Somalia.Even if talks fail with Somalia dialogue will happen another time of our era perhaps in a few years time fine with Somaliland. Somaliland just increased its defense budget, Somaliland cannot be threatened from the outside and that's a well known fact.

Somalia here is the problem with the Puntland state you have to open up the system let every one should be allowed eat from the same cake the Garaad clan are being left out i remember they fully embraced Puntland in 1998 so ask you're self where it went wrong. Its because the System in garowe favors only one clan the elites the 3 brotherly pirates who all go by the name Mahamuud. Pl Had 3 presidents two of them were called Cabdi the other one was called Cade the lighty muse. I can understand that the majority of the garaad clan don't feel represented in Garowe and Pl neglecting their regions completely. Somalia you don't want to fight for their regions even taleexi me and him are very close related he trusts you're admin more than the folks in hargeysa out of tolnimo. So this is not working for them and they are walking another path lets see where it takes our brothers and sisters lets hope it leads them back to Hargeysa inshallah.

Mashallah what a beautiful flag

Mario B;802260 wrote: Warya, you didn't you listen to Hilary Clinton press conference in London? International community believes in a united Somalia, period , as to what type of unity it entails its up to the stakeholders, so stop misleading your semi-literate enclave. :cool: Yes united Somalia they did not mention Somaliland the state department has nothing against Somaliland quest for recognition as long as its done through african union they made it clear through out the years.

Somalia;802254 wrote: We are not two different entities, Sheikh Shariif is my President I never denied that, that is foolish, but if he's negotiating with you regarding your secession we are at an unprecedented level of weakness. You know this, I know this. And Puntland doesn't take issue with your secession, just the land you occupy. Pl doesn't really care about the border dispute they don't want to fight Somaliland or they don't have the balls to do so either way the fact that they are a clan state and don't have defined border is another issue.They don't care some of them are indifferent when it comes to khaatumo some of them embrace it like duke xiiney and some of them like you are against it but one thing is certain the political bridge between the clans of laascaanood and garowe is officially broken.Today Liibaan Aaaliyaah have lost complete trust in you're fiefdom even their elders the most purest Plers in the past are now screaming the loudest khaatuumo, and down with Faroole this is what i predict in the next few days mass demonstrations in the buhoodle district and sool against the garowe enclave and faroole.

Somalia;802247 wrote: He represents us in the international scene, you can't even see how the secessionists are embarrassing you, they are part of Somalia and here you are negotiating with them. Xaaji Xunjuf is having a swell day Waryaa Somaliland and Somalia are two separate entities countries and have two different capitals two different flags two different Currencies. That said Somalia is Somalilands neighbor and sure they should talk and perhaps restore relations if that is possible in the near future barwaaqo iyo hormr for every one. So Somalia stop rejecting you're president Mr Sharif Ahmed faroole is you're local governor sharif is you're president.

Somalia;802236 wrote: They do need him, why are there over 600 soldiers in Buhoodle, why did the PL Minister go there and tell them that they are part of Puntland, the only ones that disagreed is the qurbojoog creation of Khaatumo. Waryaa if the garaad clan don't want to be part of the Garowe clan enclave why are you trying to force them they said no accept it.

Aaliyyah;802232 wrote: ^been ha isku sheegin. The entire creation of SL was and still is being fed by qabiil. Do you know who declared Somaliland as an independent republic guess from what region he is

Mashallah dalkeenu wa barwaqeysanyahay

Aaliyyah;802223 wrote: Listen Xaaji Xanjuf, you have one twisted outlook on history. There were no two clans fighting in 1992 but rather one clan(your clan) attacking another clan (reer awdal) in their home province of Awdal State without any provocation. reer awdal were the ones who accepted peace since your folks would have continued killing them in mass numbers. Even today they are being oppressed and whenever they demonstrate the result is more killings. However, there is an awakening movement within the Awdal people. Soon they will follow the same path of self determination as reer Khaatumo. The same way puntland has nothing to do with Khaatumo State, the secessionists has nothing to do with the future of Awdal State. There were two wars the clans of dila and gabiley fighting they're neighbors and it was solved after lots of reconciliations also the SDA a faction of the Awdal was heavily armed at that time they eventually took part of the Somaliland conference in 1991 along with their elders. Reer Hargeysa and reer gabiley demonstrate also does that mean they are oppressed or something. So stop portraying and insulting reer awdal as some weak community something they are not they are brave and strong people they are great stakeholders in Somaliland republic. By the way i don't like clans or qabyalaad i belong to no clan,Qabayalaad is what destroyed Somalia stop shipping it to Somaliland.

Carafaat;802177 wrote: Sxb Somali's fought over acces to resources and power along clan lines within a region or city. federalism will only continue the battle for acces to power and wealth but then on the national level. but strong regions with own characteristics, flags. doesnt mean its a federal state. Well said Somalia needs to be cured not to be poisoned with what went wrong in the past.

Aaaliyaah if you are talking about neighboring clans fighting in the early 90s than that is something from the past there is peace between the people there were some disputes between farmers of gabiley and dila but that is also solved last year. Now there were serial killers roaming inbetween Awdal and gabiley some of them were caught and some of them are still being hunted down. Thats for the seemaal killings when the 3 innocent civilians were murdered. Awdalites are part of and parcel of Somaliland founding fathers of Somaliland republic Borama 1993 Sh cali jawhar. Sii fiican u daawo Aaaliyah especially from 2:46

Hada waxay is leeyihin ceebta ino qariya but body bags will be heading back to addis ababa tallow taa sidee loo qarin:D Allahu Akbar Walilahil Xamd

Ethiopia is trying to save face after defeat Ethiopia dismisses reports of major Somali losses Selecteer een taal​ By Aaron Maasho ADDIS ABABA, March 11 (Reuters) - Ethiopia rejected on Sunday reports that dozens of its soldiers had been killed and two captured by Islamist rebels during fierce fighting in Somalia, branding them as "false." The rebels, residents and government officials said there were sustained clashes on Saturday between Ethiopian soldiers and al Shabaab near the strategic town of Baidoa and in another small town some 130 km (81 miles) away. Al Shabaab claimed responsibility for killing scores of Ethiopians and capturing two while the governor of the region, based in Baidoa, said it was the al Qaeda-allied rebels who had been routed. "They engaged our troops after regrouping in tiny pockets outside our area of control," Ethiopian Foreign Ministry spokesman Dina Mufti told Reuters. "Al Shabaab rebels sustained heavy casualties and have retreated ... the battle scene is littered with the bodies of dead enemy combatants. "It's a statement of survival, a desperate attempt. All claims are false," he said. Ethiopia sent its forces into the neighbouring Horn of Africa nation in late 2006 and quickly ousted an Islamist administration from the capital Mogadishu. But the presence of the foreign soldiers fueled an insurgency that mushroomed into al Shabaab. Now under pressure, the group at one time controlled much of the capital Mogadishu and large parts of southern and central Somalia. AUDIO RECORDING The Ethiopians pulled out of Somalia in early 2009, but returned again in force late last year to open another front against al Shabaab after Kenya sent its soldiers into the south of the anarchic country. The Ethiopians seized Baidoa last month and a number of other strategic towns near its border in the latest incursion. "They are hiding their casualties just to deceive the Ethiopian civilians whose sons were killed by al Shabaab. They will express grief for the dead who never come back, however you deny their deaths," Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, the spokesman for al Shabaab's military operation, told Reuters. He said the two captured Ethiopian soldiers would soon be shown to the media. Al Shabaab broadcast a recording on the Internet on Saturday which it said was the voice of a soldier captured during hours of fighting in the small town of Yurkud on Saturday. In the recording, a man speaking in the Ethiopian Amharic language, said in a trembling voice that his name was Abera and he had been captured in battle with another man called Tadesse, and that "many of my friends died in the fight". It was impossible to confirm the authenticity of the audio recording. Both names are common in Ethiopia. Al Shabaab, a group that has been fighting to topple the Western-backed government and wants to impose its own harsh version of Islamic law, is holding two Kenyan government officials it seized in a cross-border raid. (Additional reporting by Feisal Omar in Mogadishu; Writing by David Clarke; Editing by Karolina Tagaris). Source: Reuters

Read this carafaat Cumar wuxuu aad ugu dheeraaday in madaxweyne Shariif gobolka Banaadir oo ah meeshii ay u dhasheen iyo dekeda Muqdisho uu ku safay dad reerkiisa ah iyo saaxiibadiisa isagoo iska ilaaway dadka kale. Ma jirin cid ka tirsan dawlada oo la hadashay dibadbaxayaasha oo socodkooda si nabadgelyo ah ku dhameystay. Cabashada beelaha Banaadiriga ayaa ahayd arin maalmahanba ka taagneyd magaalada Muqdisho walow masuuliyiinta DKMG ah aysan ka hadlin.

Its the banadiri community of xamar from the old city of Xamar from Shingaani and Xamarweyne they are not happy with the current Mogadishu Admin they should be fairly represented in the Mogadishu admin.

Gaacuur;801907 wrote: http://www.voanews.com/somali/news/Farole-TFG-Uma-Madaxbanaana--142221345.html - TFG uma madaxbanaana iney la hadasho Somaliland. - Maamul Goboleed aan Puntland ahayn mala aqoonsan karo. - Somaliland waxaa la hadli kara oo kaliya Puntland anagaana ka masuul ah arintaas. - Dawladda Puntland waxay lahaaneysaa Dastuur ka gooni ah kan Federalka. Gaacuur how can Puntland have its own constitution a country can only have one constitution

Carafaat i think that's should be an open option if things really get out of hand the garowe clan enclave divided a small city like Galkacyo into clanish fiefdoms. Even baargaal is divided that's a real serious issue Somalia needs national unity instead of division and that's the way forward.

^^ Indeed down with clanfederalism no need for fictional clanish borders.

Aaliyyah;802094 wrote: Xaaji Xanjuf, if you don't know that your folks committed genocide against the people of Awdal in 1992. And, still oppressing and killing innocent people (it was just recently when people demonstrating in borame were killed) ..then clearly you are living in your own lalaand. Awdal State will follow the same path as Khaatumo State and will claim their rightful lands. Mark my words! People were killed 3 people were murdered and that was really bad and some of the killers were caught but what does Somaliland have to do with that? Now if a serial killer kills people does that mean the government has anything to do with it? As for Awdal state its a region of Somaliland talk to their elders politicians in Awdal and you will see the light.

Aaliyyah;802083 wrote: Salax, the so called Somaliland is in war with their neighbors (Awdal state and Khaatumo State) so how do you expect recognition? War with Awdal where and when?

Muqdisho: Dowlada TFG-da oo maamul cusub u magacawday Gobolka Hiiraan 11. marts 2012 Dowlada KMG Soomaaliya ayaa maanta u magacawday maamulki ugu horeeyey mudo 3 sana ah gobolka Hiiraan, laba bilood kadib marki laga xoreeyey Al Shabaab. Wareegto kasoo baxday madaxweyne Shariif ayaa lagu magacaabay maamulka cusub ee gobolka Hiiraan iyadoo gudoomiye loogu magacaabay C/fataax Xasan Afrax. Munaasabada wareegtada loogaga dhawaaqay oo ka dhacday xarunta wasaarada arrimaha gudaha oo ay kasoo qeybgaleen xildhibaano, iyo xubno ka tirsan wasaarada arrimaha gudaha oo uu ka mid ahaa wasiiru dowlaha arrimaha gudaha iyo amniga qaranka ayaa sidoo kale lagu magacaabay duqa magaalada Baladweyne. Duqa magaalada Baladweyne ayaa loo magacaabay Sheekh Cismaan Barre, waxaana goobta ku sugnaa duqa magaalada iyo gudoomiyaha cusub ee gobolka Hiiraan. Qoraalka kasoo baxay madaxweynaha ayaa lagu sheegay in maamulkan ay si KMG ah u qaban doonaan xilalka ilaa mudo sadex bilood ah. Magacaabista C/fataax Xasan Afrax oo horay u ahaa madaxweynaha maamulka Dooxada Shabelle ayaa soo jiitameysay mudo bil ah, waxaana mudadaasi socday wada hadalo oo uu madaxweyne Sharif kula jiray xildhibaanada kasoo jeeda Hiiraan oo uu aaqirki ku qanciyey in ay aqbalaan shaxda loo sameeyey maamulka cusub ee Hiiraan. Gobolka Hiiraan ayaa waxa dega qabiilo badan kuwaasi oo uu ka dhaxeeyo xafiiltan dhinaca siyaasada ah, waxaaa sugaya maamulka cusub howlo adag oo uu ugu horeeyo amaanka.

Che -Guevara;802025 wrote: Hada waxaad leedahay ragii wadanka saas ugaley baa wax kasoo bixi kara dumarka? Hermet....To gauge the intellect of Somali man and his ability, just look at SOL and tell me if they are better than Somali women? Che rag talo kama dhamaato we were just very unlucky but there was nothing wrong with Somali leadership prior 1991

Its a historical day for the people of the sool region a party that represents them opens its first office in Laascaanood the people really needed this.

Che Guevara Garowe haday wax sheegeyso Email ha soo dirto wakhti badan looma hayo iyaga Mogadisho iyo hargeysan islaha walaleeh labada meelood eeh Wada hadalku halkaasu ku socda