So puntland is against the dastuur that's good we are getting some where now.

What about an Independent O'gaden republic the ONLF are very divided on this issue and not clear about what to do when they are independent from Ethiopia.

Xiinfaniin i would not be so surprised since Abtigis is a separatist him self he wants to break away from Ethiopia remember.

oba hiloowlow;828628 wrote: abdul war waxaa waa sheeko Melez iyo afawerkis hal villa oo towfiiq ku yaal ayeey wada deganaayeen in the 80s maantana labada dhinac is heysto bey taageerayaan labadoodaba soomalia oo cagaha ku istaagto ay diidanyihiin laakinse yaa fahmaayo? Xiliga cadaw kaliya bey lahayeen Mengistu haile maryam hada laakin iyagi ba isku cadaw ah Eritreanka iyo tigrayga wana run dee siyasadooda bay kugu fulinayaan hadu Melez tageero TFG ,, Eritrea waxay tageereysa shabaab Proxy war ba la yidha.

Somalia;828840 wrote: I hope he's kidding. I want Somaliland for nothing more than domination to better further the goals of all our people, that's the honest way to look at it and may God never grant them what they see as self determination as it does the rest bad. :cool: :D:D

War deg-deg ah: Dad rayid ah oo goor dhawayd Boosaaso lagu dilay. Posted by Puntlandi on May 10th, 2012 Kooxo hubaysan ayaa goor dhawayd Magaalada Boosaaso ku dilay laba nin oo rayid ah oo ku sugnaa xaafada laanta Hawada ee magaalada. Dablay hubaysan oo Madexu uu u duubanyahay ayaa dilkan gaysatay, waxaana la xaqiijiyay in dablaydu ay rasaas la dhacday labadan nin oo ka qaxweynaysay goob mukhaayad ah oo ku taala xaafadaasi gaar ahaana Aaga xerada Xerta. Inkastoo ay goobta soo gaareen Ciidanka booliska hadana ma jirto cid dilkan labada nin loo qabtay, waxaase socda baaritaan xoog leh oo dhamaan qaybaha ciidanku ay ka qayb qaadanayaan. Labadan nin ee la dilay ayaa la sheegay in ay iskmu hayb yihiin kana soo jeedaan deegaanka gobolka Sanaag ee Puntland.

Jacaylbaro stop hacking abtigis account we don't believe this.

Carafaat heesahaan baanu anagu dhegeysan jirnay

Carafaat adeer Somaliland iskaa daaa, Puntland uun ku eekow.

^^^How do you not share a border with Djibouti

Well done President Sharif

Madaxweynaha Somalia oo dallacsiiyay in ka badan 100-sarkaal oo Ciidanka Booliiska Soomaaliya ka tirsan Khamiis, May 10, 2012 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Shariif Sheekh Axmed ayaa maanta dalacsiiyay 141-sarkaal oo ka tirsan booliiska Soomaaliya oo uu ku jiro taliyaha ciidanka booliiska Soomaaliya, Jen. Shariif Sheekhunaa Maye. Saraakiishan ayaa lagu dallacsiiyay munaasabad ka dhacday Muqdisho, iyadoo hadal uu goobtaas ka jeediyay taliyaha ciidamada booliiska uu ku sheegay inay ku timid dallacsiintan kaddib markii saraakiishan ay muujiyeen karti iyo howl-karnimo dheeraad ah. "Madaxweynaha saraakiisha uu dalacsiiyay waxay ahaayeen G/sare ilaa Sareeye Guuto 17-sarkaal, G/dhexe ilaa G/sare 13-sarkaal, G/lle ilaa G/dhexe 17-sarkaal"ayuu yiri Jen. Shariif Sheekhuna Maye oo tilmaamay in isaga uu si gaar ah u tixgeliyay saraakiisha la dalacsiiyay, markii warbixin loo soo gudibiyay, isla markaana uu arkay waxqabadkooda iyo dadaalkooda. Agaasimaha Wasaarada Arrimaha Gudaha iyo Amniga Qaranka Bashiir Maxamed Goobe ayaa sheegay ka aqriyay Munaasabada Saraakiisha la dalacsiiyay, isagoo ugu horeyn magac dhabay Taliyaha Ciidamada Booliska Jen. Shariif Sheekhuna Maye oo ka dalacay Sareeye Guuto, loona dalacsiiyay Sareeye Gaas. Saraakiisha la dalacsiiyay ayaa waxaa ka mid ahaa: Maxamed Rooble Jimcaale (Goobaale) oo loo dalacsiiyay jeneraal, Axmed Diiriye Faarax oo loo dallacsiiyay sareeye guuto, taliyaha ciidanka booliska gobolka Banaadir, Axmed Xasan Maalin oo ahaa gaashaanle sare ayaa loo dallacsiiyay sareeye guuto, taliyaha laanta dambi-baarista booliiska ee CID-da, Cabdullaahi Xasan Bariise oo ahaa gaashaanle sare ayaa loo dallacsiiyay sareeye guuto, Cali Xirsi Barre (Cali Gaab) oo isna ahaa G/sare ayaa loo dalacsiiyay sareeye guuto. "Waxaan idin leeyahay hambalyo, waxaana la idin kaga baahan yahay inaad dusha u ridataan mas'uuliyadda cusub ee la idin saaray aadna ugu shaqeysaan dadkiina iyo dalkiinna," ayuu yiri wasiirka arrimaha gudaha ee dowladda KMG ah oo hadal ka jeediyay munaasabadda lagu dallacsiiyay saraakiisha booliiska ka tirsan. C/samad Macallin Maxamuud ayaa u sheegay saraakiisha la dalacsiiyay in markii la arkay kartidooda iyo dadaalka dheeraadka ah ee ay bixiyeen loo gartay in xilalkooda loo kordhiyo, wuxuuna ku tilmaamay booliiska inay yihiin halbowlihii sharciga dalka. Tallaabadan ayaa noqonaysa tii ugu horreysay nooceeda oo uu madaxweynaha Soomaaliya ku dallacsiiyo saraakiil booliis oo tiradan le'eg, waxaana dalalcsiinta saraakiishan ay imaanaysaa xilli ay dowladdu dadaal ugu jirto inay sugto ammaanka Muqdisho.

Carafaat;828740 wrote: The constitution is still not made public. Some traditional clan elders who cant read or write will adopt the legal basis for Somalia's governance. Those advocating for this constitutional piracy never distentiated themselves from piracy on the high sea. Is this a clear attempt of afduub of Somalia. Indeed its afduub ka gaadhsi but it wont work mark my words:D Ana war ku haye waleh.

Somalia again nothing can be forced history proved that remember the Ethiopians in Somalia supported by the state department,just few years ago. What can mahiga do who is he is he the leader of Somalia or something who gave him the right to talk such way. I don't think you can call Professor Samatar and Hiil qaran Mooryan don't think you can call professor ali khalif galaydh a Mooryan I don think you can call President Tiicay a Mooryan. I also think President sharif is not interested in lose federal states. Somalia,, Somaliland has nothing to worry have u seen them talking about Somalia the only time they mention Somalia is when it comes to talks between them and Somalia.

Somalia nothing can be forced in Somalia it will create only more hostilities between the different regional communities some are against the constitution because they don't agree with the way the new constitution was drafted. Religious leaders are against it because of their religious beliefs. Some are against it because they do not want to see a federal Somalia with lose federal states. Every one has his own reasons to oppose it we shall see how it goes because a constitution should be something for the people by the people.

The Constitution might be passed but that's not the issue will it be implemented in Somalia while huge sections of the country are against it.What u will hear soon is dastuurka dhulkayaga lugu ma dhaqi karo what are you going to do then?

Ximan iyo xeeb galmudug the Mogadishu elder Professor cali khalif galaydh the demonstration tomorrow the religious leaders Professor Samatar its all coming together people are seeing the light.

Somalia Recolonized – With African Help Glen Ford May 9, 2012 Since at least 2006, Somalia has been the focus of the United States’ drive for military domination of Africa, with other African states lining up to join in the bloody, neocolonial feast. Sierra Leone is the latest. "Sierra Leone’s soldiers have become cogs in the imperial reconquest of Africa, with Somalia as ground zero." "Washington’s actions have been calculated to ensure that a strong Somali state never rise again." With great fanfare from the international corporate media, the West African nation of Sierra Leone has committed 850 soldiers to the African Union’s forces in Somalia. In reality, Sierra Leone’s soldiers have become cogs in the imperial reconquest of Africa, with Somalia as ground zero. Following the U.S.-backed invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia, in 2006, Washington and its European allies, including the old colonial rulers, Italy and Britain, propped up a puppet government in the capital city, Mogadishu, while simultaneously encouraging the breakaway regions of Puntland and Somaliland. The capital is occupied by AMISOM, the African Union’s military force in Somalia, which is paid for by United Nations and, for all practical purposes, an extension of U.S. foreign policy on the continent. AMISOM’s largest contingents are from the U.S. client states Uganda and Burundi, and the force is commanded by a Ugandan. Another contingent hails from Somalia’s neighbor to the north, Djibouti, a tiny country that is little more than a military base for the United States and France. Djibouti is the main center of operations for AFRICOM, the U.S. Africa Command. Although the Americans pay constant lip service to the idea of a permanent national Somali government and to the territorial integrity of country, Washington’s actions have been calculated to ensure that a strong Somali state never rise again. Vast areas of the country have been occupied by Somalia’s historical enemies, Ethiopia and Kenya. The O'gaden region of Ethiopia is populated mainly by people of Somali origin, against whom Ethiopia’s military regime has waged a brutal counterinsurgency war. Parts of northern Kenya are largely inhabited by ethnic Somalis. Both Ethiopia and Kenya view an intact and unified Somalia as against their national interests. Yet these are the countries, along with Uganda, to which the U.S. has, in the words of one Somali analyst, "subcontracted" the war against the Islamist Shabaab – which the U.S. claims is part of its war on terror. "Oil companies also have an interest in a weak Somali government, and have already begun operations in the secessionist regions of Puntland and Somaliland." Kenya and Ethiopia can be expected to pursue what they consider to be their own national interests, bringing large parts of Somalia under their direct or indirect control, while fulfilling their obligations to the U.S. master. Ethiopia, especially, has exhibited the utmost contempt for Somali civilians under their control, arming and financing their own warlords and criminal gangs. Somalis widely believe that Kenya wants their oil. But the truth is, the people that will ultimately get the oil are the multinational energy corporations favored by the United States and its European allies. These oil companies also have an interest in a weak Somali government, and have already begun operations in the secessionist regions of Puntland and Somaliland. In the national capital at Mogadishu, the international community – meaning, the United States and its allies – is overseeing the writing of a new Somali Constitution, one that effectively partitions the country into three territories: Puntland, Somaliland, and South Central Somalia. These same international overseers have warned that any "spoilers" that oppose the new order will be dealt with, harshly. Thus, we see that the recolonization of Africa is well underway – with the enthusiastic collaboration of other Africans.

Dalmar Kahin Dear Mohamed F Yabarag, I quickly skimmed through your opinion entitled, “Is “Somaliland” Crumbling on Ahmed Silanyo’s Feet?” published on wardheernews website because hardly was a need for me to ponder on the content of any of your “articles” for the obvious reasons. That is, for you recycling the same paper repeatedly seems to be an unwinnable contest. As always after reading one of your emotional and subjective “papers”, I ask myself: “Haven’t I read it before? Or is this just another darn déjà vu?” In any event, some of the following titles, which have all predicted the demise of Somaliland, were written by none other than yourself, Mohamed F Yabarag , Osman Hassan, and others. Yet Somaliland has made progress in every leap. Just revisit your previous “papers”: “The Declaration Of Awdal State Rattled “Somaliland” Establishment” “The last nail to the secessionists’ coffin” “Death Knell for Secessionists in “Somaliland” “Countdown to Somaliland’s collapse” “Somaliland on the Brink of Imminent Collapse” “18 May: A sad day in the History of Somalia” What a shame! Wishing the downfall of a Somali society—while “advocating” for Somali unity is a classic example of clannish rants disguised as a campaign for Somali unity. Indeed, the likes of Mr. Yabarag and Mr. Osman, the so-called pro-unity groups, have paradoxically butchered unity to death. That is, they shed more crocodile tears for Somali unity than thunderclouds could spill rains, yet they inadvertently jam daggers into its heart, repeatedly. Congratulations gentlemen! Why anyone, from Somaliland, in his/her right mind would share a country with you folks? The only question that creeps into my mind is: how did we manage to share a country (former Somalia) with people like Mr. Yabarag and Mr. Osman for thirty years? Were we in deep coma for these three decades? In recent years, remember at the height of the former SSC rebels’ violent campaign against Somaliland security forces, Mr. Hassan wrote an article entitled, “Countdown to Somaliland’s collapse”. Little Mr. Hassan knew that the countdown was ticking for the obliteration of his violent SSC militants, not for Somaliland’s collapse. Just few months later, the SSC disappeared faster than ice cubes vanish in a hot desert. Similarly, I recall as soon as a Diaspora group from Awdal region, in Somaliland, announced the so-called Awdal State administration at a glamorous house party in Canada, Mr. Yabarag ecstatically performing spectacular back fillips to express the overwhelming joy of his long-awaited dream: the fall of Somaliland into feuding clans. Mr. Yabarag wrote an emotionally and strategically miscalculated piece entitled, “The Declaration Of Awdal State Rattled “Somaliland” Establishment”. I reminded him that he celebrated prematurely. Evidently, as I have predicted, so far the “Awdal State” Diaspora group remains convinced that controlling Somaliland with a remote control from the heart of Canada is far more logical than venturing into Awdal region to face the reality on the ground. As for the February 2012 Somali conferences in London, over fifty countries for the first time realized that Somaliland was no longer a region that exists hypothetically; but it was (is) a legitimate country, with its problems, like any other nation in Africa. Therefore, the world, unambiguously, echoed that Somaliland and Somalia must sit down to agree or disagree on the issue of Somali unity. No one has ever mentioned any of the fly-by-night “administrations” namely SSC/Khatumo, Makhir, and Awdal State, attempted to parachute into Somaliland by selfish, power-hungry Diaspora groups. Truth is: the international community cares less whether or not some clans in Somaliland disagree with its quest for independence. The only thing the world wants to know is: what the majority in Somaliland want? It doesn’t matter which clan they hail from or region they inhabit. Nor does it matter which clans signed an agreement with the British colonizers. Do you think every African clan signed an agreement with the colonizers? Of course not! So, putting aside the usual fadhi kudirir (Somali political debates at the coffee shops) the indisputable truth is: Somaliland’s independence is unavoidable—just as death and taxes are inescapable. Thank you, Dalmar Kaahin

Madaxweyne Tiiceey oo sheegay in la tashi la’aan uusan socon karin Dastuurka SHABELLE MEDIA NETWORK MAY 10, 2012 COMMENTS OFF Cadaado: (Sh. M. Network) Madaxweynaha maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb Max’ed Aadan Tiicey oo wareysi siinayay Shabakada Warbaahinta Shabelle ayaa waxa uu ka hadlay dastuurka cusub ee loo sameenayo dalka soomaaliya, wuxuuna sheegay in wada tashi la’aan ay jirto. Max’ed Aadan Tiicey ayaa sheegay in ay jirto is faham la’aan iyo tashi ku aadan ansixinta dastuurka qabyo qoraalka ah, isagoo xusay in dadkii fikirka ku dari lahaa dastuurka albaabka laga xirtay, wuxuuna intaasi ku daray in ansixinta dastuurka uu ka dhaxeeyo dhamaan shacabka Soomaliyeed balse ay isku kooban dad gooni ah. Madaxweynaha maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb ayaa isagoo hadlkiisa sii wata waxa uu tilmaamay in ay haboon tahay in dastuurka lagu saleeyo shareecada islaamka maadaama dal walba oo dastuur sameesanaya uu dastuurkiisa ku lifaaqo diintiisa. Mudooyinkii dambe ayaa waxa soo badanayey Xildhibaano, Siyaasiyiin, Waxgarad, Culumaa’udiin iyo qeybaha kala duwan ee bulshada Soomaaliyeed ay ka hadlayeen ansixinta qabyo qoraalka dastuurka maadama sida la sheegay qodobada ku jira dastuurka ay ka hor imaanayaan shareecada islaamka.

Gheelle.T;828600 wrote: Sheeka xarritaadii baa bilowday ya XX. The PM met Khaatumo delegates weeks ago and Liban has posted the pics here in SOL. Marka beentaan naga daa awoowe War anigu waxan maan qorin waxay ku taala websitka real taleex oo ah website tageerta Arimaha Khatumo weydi walaalkeen Liibaan he will confirm it.

Codsigii C/wali ka dalbaday Oo Golaha dhaqan Ee khaatumo ku gacan saydheen maanta… May 9, 2012 Muqdisho:-(RT)Kulan balaaran oo ay maanta wada yeesheen raysalwasaaraha xukuumada KMG ah ee somalia iyo Ergada dhaqanka sare ee dowlad goboleedka khaatumo state of somalia ayaa ku dhamaaday fashil kadib markii uu raysalwasaraha somalia Dr -c/weli maxamed cali gaas uu ka dalbaday ergada dhaqanka sare ee Khaatumo ay labo isim kusoo darsadaan ergada puntland Kulankan oo ahaa mid saxaafadu dibad joog ka ahayd ayaa warbaahinta ssc xog dhab ah oo ay ka heshay sheegayaan in kulankan uu raysalwasaraha ka dalbaday Ergada khatumo state uu uga gol lahaa in boos loogu baneeyo boqor c/laahi dabagooye iyo caaqil camey oo ay hore uga mid ahaa ergada dhaqanka puntland islamarkaana aan kamid ahayn ergada ka socotay maamulka khaatumo state of somalia sidoo kale ergada kala duwan ee ka socota dhaqanka soomaaliyeed ayaa lagu soo waramayaa inuu qaarkood soo wajahay khilaaf kadib markii la sheegay inay maanta kasoo horjeesteen qaabka wax loo maamulayo . iskusoo wada duuboo ergada dhaqanka ee khaatumo iyo weliba ergooyinka kale ee kasoo jeeda qaar kamid ah beelaha soomaaliyeed ayaa hadii ay kasoo horjeestaan ansixinta dastuurka qabyo qoraaleedka noqon kara mid ku dhamaada fashil islamarkaana aan noqon mid qalinka lagu duugo.

^^ Amiirku wadan kale bu jooga wax fahan:D

Imaamka Beesha Banadir iyo Jawhar oo ka baxay Shirkii Odayaasha Dhaqanka isagoo sababtana Shaaciyay Wararka | Posted by: admin Imaamka Beesha Banadir iyo Jawhar uga qeybgalayay Shirka Odayaasha Dhaqanka Beelaha Soomaaliyeed ee kasocda Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in Shirkaasi uu isaga baxay Dibad joogna uu ka yahay. Imaam Maxamad Yuusuf Cali oo kamid ah duubabka saameynta leh ee soomaaliyeed ayaa sheegay in uusan qeyb ka ahayn duubabka uu shirku uga furmay magaalda muqdisho 5 tii bishan waxaana uu intaa ku daray in tagay oo kaliya maalintii la furayay wixii intaa ka dambeeyayna uu dibada ka joogay . Imaamka ayaana ku macneeyay Sababaha uu shirka uga baxay in ee tahay in Goobta dadka la isugu keenay u badanyihiin Rag Duubab Waa weyn iyo Cimaamado iska soo xirtay hasa ahaatee aan aheyn Odey Dhaqmeedyadii la yaqaanay Imaamka ayaa xusay in Ragan meesha la isugu keenay ee Duubabka loo xiray ee yihiin Rag si gaar ah loo soo xushay duubabna loo soo hubiyay lagana leeyahay Dano Siyaasadeed sida uu Sheegay. Imaam Maxamad Yuusuf Cali ayaa xusay in Wasaarada arimaha gudaha ee dalka u sheegtay in ay kala saari doonto duubabka saxda ah ee soomaalidu taqaano iyo kuwa bugta ama been abuurka ah hadii aan la kala saarin oo aan shirka laga bixin dadkaa uu tilmaamayna ay isaga iyo duubab kale oo uusan carabaabin aysan halkooda u dhaafi doonin Dhinaca kalana iimaamka beesha Banadir iyo jawhar waxaa uu sheegay in in distuurka la ansixinayo ee lasheegayba aaney wali arag ama aan loosoo bandhigin sidaas daraadeedna aysan suurtagal ahayn in uu ansixiyo wax uusan ogeyn waxa ay yihiin. waxaa kaloo xusid mudan in waayadan dambe ay socdeen murano u dhexeeya siyaasiyiinta gaar ahaan xildhibaanada iyo qaar wasiiro ah oo af duubaya hogaamiye yaasha dhaqanka saxda ah ee beelohooda si ay u keensadaan rag gacan ku rimis ah oo ay kasoo dhigeen duubab si ay iyaga hadhow ugusoo qoraan kuraasida beesha kasoo gaaraya baarlamaanka mustaqbalka dhow la dhisayo

This is what clan federalism does,soon i will not be surprised if u hear widhwidh state xadhadhanka state and so on.