Ever since Cabdi Cawar lost some people see Somaliland every where:D

The Spanish people are also the same people who share the same faith and language and to some extend share the same ancestry but whats more important the Spanish people share the same heritage political culture and History an Empire. by the way i support the unity of Somalia.

General Duke;868118 wrote: XX, there will ne mo referendum or the South Sudan type of option. Somaliland is not South Sudan. All legitimate grievances should be settled and addressed correctly. A bit of maturity is required from our N-Western brothers. The independence issue will be addressed whether u like it or not do not be afraid of a Recognized Somaliland it will be very peaceful towards ur people In Puntland.

Apophis;868113 wrote: I do but you want a permanent settlement where everybody is, reasonably, satisfied with the outcome Yes i want a permanent settlement i don't think it will be a big problem Somaliland and Somalia can reach a deal. Somalia has little to lose they still have a big territory remember Somalia is twice the size of Somaliland Somalia still has all the fertile land and will not lose many resources it will lose some population but that's about. I mean with Somaliland attached to Somalia internationally Somalia cant focus on her own domestic issues as in rebuilding the country i see Somaliland as bad energy on Somalia and we need to solve that.

Apophis;868110 wrote: The situation is too complicated to be settled in such a way; but let me ask you, what if some clans wish to be part of Somalia, do you think they have the right to choose? We will know that when we hold a UN supervised referendum on independence maybe half of Hargeysa wants to be part of Somalia we dont know dont you wanna find out.

Apophis;868108 wrote: No forced union but inclusive and negotiated settlement; he has my vote. How about a referendum on independence village by village for every district in Somaliland.

Thats what i like to hear he does not believe in any forced union between SL and Somalia.

Why are we comparing Spain with Somalia come on people.

^^ Unlikely but it can happen but its unlikely.

Duke that's always how it starts but eventually they will reach a deal and come to their senses since selling another union to Somalilanders is unreachable impossible and even illogical. As i said that's how it starts the people of Somalia has no real attachment to Somaliland since Somaliland was basically gone the past 22 years the average person in Mogadishu or baydhabo has no clue how Somaliland or the people Somaliland view things nor can they related to their aspirations he only knows what he wants the same way u tell us about what u want. But u dont know how Somalilanders view things. Thats why the talks will take a while and maybe through referendum if its agreed so we can really test and bring forward the true aspirations and desires of the people of Somaliland. And that's why i like the new president he outdoes believe in any form of forced union a healthy coexistence of Somaliland and Somalia is the future.

Shinbir Majabe;868094 wrote: PM can be chosen from any clan except the President clan.. 4.5 sidaas ayaa loola jeedaa, laakiin waxaa caado noqotay in 2sub-clans ay mar walbo qaataan the President and PM posts.. waxaana u sabab ah iney kaga firfircoon yihiin other clans dhanka siyaasadda. pm cannot be from the Bay and Bakool regions since jawaari is from those regions the parliament speaker. He will most likely be from Puntland or gedo

^^ I just cant imagine Spain be divided thats all son.

Its 4.5 the 3 top seats in Somalia is most likely always shared by the 3 major clans in Somalia if one is the President he cant be the Prime Minister this formula existed before the 4.5 back than it wasn't official now its official so nothing will change really.

Shinbir Majabe;868066 wrote: ^^ :D:D Edit: ( Hargeysa is a nice city i have been there a few times i hope it remains with Somalia) . Thats a whole different story

General Duke;868065 wrote: Somaliland is part of Somalia, it’s the NW part of Somalia and our new President believes in and swore to uphold the Federal Republic sovereignty and territorial integrity. Thus expect a Somalia that will listen to any grievance but will not allow any room for secession. The incompetent Sharif that you were used to and loved is gone. The new President is a nationalist of the first order. The current President of Somalia doesn't believe in any forced union between Somaliland and Somalia he made that clear that's why i am sure the current dialogue will continue to achieve some kind of renewed relations between Somaliland and Somalia. Something the leaders of Somaliland and Somalia have wasted the past 21 years. its a great day for the people of Somalia they have an elected president a new parliament. His priorities are to continue to rebuild Mogadishu help shelter the returned refugees continue to build institutions continue to build capable police forces and armed forces and fight corruption these are his top priorities. On the side we will continue the dialogue of Somaliland and Somalia its a great year for the people of the Horn of Africa The Dictator of Ethiopia is dead they found water in Puntland a new President is elected in Somalia. Mo farah won twice gold in London Olympics ONLF and Ethiopia started having talks. Somaliland and Somalia started talking for the first time the future is indeed very bright.

Barcelona is a nice city i have been there a few times i hope it remains with Spain.

General Duke;868054 wrote: I am a proud Somali today and want Mogadishu to develop and become stronger, XX on the other hand wants Somaliland to be run from Addis and Banadir from Kenya.. Who is a loser? Somaliland and Somalia will always be neighbors and we also hope that our two neighboring countries will partner together in working towards a betterment of peace and stability and prosperity in the Horn of Africa.

General Duke;868051 wrote: You do know today there is more unity in Mogadishu between various communities than any other time? We have a well manared, religious, educated man at the top. Abdiweli was his ally and so where those who supported the change and who were against the Sharif's you supported. Today I am happy, so are my relatives in Mogadishu including my beloved mother. Thus Mr. Secessionist expect a shock as the Federal Republic takes shape. The days when we took orders from Addis, Djibouti & Kenya are over.. Well i am very happy for the people of Somalia like the rest of the people of Somaliland the Govt of Somaliland send their Congrats to the people of Somalia and the new leadership of Somalia. And i am also Glad an Islamist is at top leadership of Somalia which is a good thing. The unity of the people of Mogadishu is very important we all remember how you cheered for their destruction when u uncle was the leader of the TFG. As for cabdi cawar he wanted the top seat so did you and the rest of the puntlanders but they lost accept ur defeat:D

Burah leave our friend Duke Alone he is still not over the loss of Cabdi Weli so one needs to let his frustrations out on Somaliland.

Why would i be upset i said before the elections that i will support who ever the people of Somalia elect and they elected Hassan Sh Mahamuud not cabdi cawar no faroole agent is in Mogadishu tonight. I know it hurts and it must be painful that the guy u were promoting the past few months lost but that's the reality:D There are winners and there are losers in this world and you have to just accept that ur not on the winning team:D

General Duke;868037 wrote: ^^^^ Adeer you have no recognition and a Political office is meaningless to your cause if its affairs are run from Mogadishu's embassy.. Desperate talk from a secessionist. Now Somalia will develop insha Allah now your hero Sharif's are gone.. You are forgetting that the Somaliland affairs concerning the UK will be connected to the Embassy in Ethiopia and the Political office recently opened will deal with the Somaliland corporation issues in the SL capital. While the Nairobi based Embassy for Somalia will run the affairs of Somalia from Kenya that's how its organized u have to deal with it.

Yes an Ambassador for Somalia which is very good good but this is a Political office which will also help facilitate the Somaliland development corporation that was launched earlier this year. How ever the British Government their embassy for Somalia is based in Kenya Nairobi matt baugh is the Ambassador for Somalia based Kenya. While the British Embassy in addis ababa maintans a full range of Bilateral relations with the Somaliland govt in Hargeysa. Thats how the Brits organized the situation of Somaliland and Somalia.

SRSG Augustine Mahiga shakes hands with Somali President-elect Hassan Sheikh Mohamud during a courtesy visit. Photo: UNPOS Tuesday, September 11, 2012 United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon today welcomed the selection of a new president for Somalia, the final step in the war-torn East African nation’s political transition process. Hassan Sheikh Mohamud was selected as President of the Federal Republic of Somalia on Monday, following a vote which involved two rounds of balloting in the country’s so-called New Federal Parliament in the capital, Mogadishu. “The selection of the new President brings an end to the eight-year political transition. The Secretary-General congratulates the New Federal Parliament and its Speaker for the peaceful and orderly conduct of the process,” Mr. Ban’s spokesperson said in a statement “He also pays tribute to all the signatories of the Roadmap for Ending the Transition for the important role they have played to bring the process to a successful conclusion,” the spokesperson added, while also noting that the UN chief congratulates Mr. Sheikh Mohamud on his selection. After decades of warfare, Somalia has been undergoing a peace and national reconciliation process, with the country's transitional governing arrangements coming to an end with the selection of a president – a key and final part of the so-called Roadmap for Ending the Transition, which Somali authorities had been implementing. Monday’s selection marks the culmination of a series of landmark steps contained in the Roadmap. These include the adoption of Somalia’s provisional constitution, the establishment of the New Federal Parliament and the appointment of that body’s Speaker. “The Secretary-General encourages the new President to move expeditiously, to appoint an inclusive, accountable Government that can begin the work of peacebuilding in the country,” Mr. Ban’s spokespersonsaid. “He urges Somali and international actors alike to pledge their continued support.” He added that the UN chief looks forward to the upcoming high-level meeting on Somalia in the margins of the General Assembly later this month, which will be “an opportunity for Somalia’s new leadership to consolidate the partnership with the international community.” The Secretary-General also thanked his Special Representative for Somalia, Augustine P. Mahiga, and the staff of the UN Political Office for Somalia (UNPOS), as well as the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) and other stakeholders for their “tireless and dedicated work” in support of the peace process in Somalia. Earlier Tuesday, Mr. Mahiga and his deputy paid a courtesy visit on President Sheikh Mohamud in Mogadishu, congratulating him and pledging to support the new Somali Government. According to an UNPOS news release, they also “paid tribute to the integrity and quality of the process, which was both representative and transparent,” and President Sheikh Mohamud indicated that he was looking forward to work with the United Nations. In a statement on Monday night, Mr. Mahiga said while much remains to be done in the war-torn country, Somalis can be proud of the transition process that culminated in the selection of a new president. “The transition is over – Somalia must now focus on stabilization, reconciliation and building sustainable and accountable institutions of governance capable of providing services to its people,” the Special Representative said. He added, “We salute all candidates regardless of the outcome. I call on the winners to be magnanimous in victory, the losers to be gracious in defeat and for all to lead Somalia forward to a brighter day. All Somalis must now reconcile for the good of the nation at this remarkable moment in the country's history.” Until last year, most of Mogadishu, was, for several years, riven by a fluid frontline dividing the two sides – Al Shabaab fighters and Government troops, with the latter supported by the UN-backed AMISOM forces. Displaced by fighting and drought elsewhere in the country, some 184,000 people have sought humanitarian relief in the city. Since the Al Shabaab withdrawal from the capital's central parts in August last year, the frontlines have been pushed back to the city's surrounding area. However, the use of roadside bombs, grenades and suicide bombers still take place, as do armed clashes. Since late May, AMISOM, Government troops and their allies pushed into the Afgooye corridor, outside of Mogadishu, and also gained control of the town of Balad, located within an important agricultural area near the capital. Source: UN News Centre

UK Government Confirms Opening Office In Somaliland Written by Qaran news Sep 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM Hargeisa( Qarannews)- The United Kingdom government confirms the opening of a new office in Somaliland tasked with facilitating the recently announced Somaliland Development Corporation, as well as, acting as a place for provided access into Somaliland for various UK organisations such as the British Council and other non-political agencies. In parliamentary questions session at the Westminster Houses of Parliament in London, on September 4th, the British minister for Africa, Henry Bellingham, responding to question from Christopher Pincher MP, confirmed that the UK government has opened an office in Somaliland to "assist with the development of Somaliland, which will lead to progress and stability". Minister Bellingham continued that the opening of the office was part of the agreement at the recent meeting on Somalia and Horn of Africa held in London in February 2012 The office was official opened on Monday, September 3rd, 2012. It is the first British government office, in any guise, since independence on the 26th June 1960. Qarannews

Hows Amin a warlord he is a cartoonist and a pretty good one to.