Waxaan Ahaa Hogaamiyihii SSC ,Bulshada Reer Somaliland Midnimadooda Waan Ka Shaqaynayaa" Dr. Xaglo-toosiye Wasiirka dib u dejinta oo maanta hadal ka jeediyey Munaasibad uu....... Hargeysa (GNS) - Wasiirka cusub ee Wasaarada dib u dejinta Somaliland Dr. Saleebaan Ciise Axmed (Xaglo-toosiye) ayaa sheegay inuu ka shaqayn-doono horumarka iyo midnimada shacabka reer Somaliland, isla-markaana uu xilka loo igmadday uu si daacad ah u gudan-doono. Dr. Xaglo-toosiye Wasiirka dib u dejinta oo maanta hadal ka jeediyey Munaasibad uu xilka kula wareegayey oo ka dhacday hoolka hay'adda shaqaalaha dawlada ee magaaladda Hargeysa, ayaa waxa uu sheegay in tabashooyin is biirsadday ay soo gudbiyeen shacabka ku dhaqan Buuhoodle, isla-markaana ay Xukuumadda Somaliland balan-qaaday inay wax ka qabanayso. Waxaana hadaladiisii ka mid ahaa "Marka hore waxaan u mahad celinayaa Wasiiirkii hore ee Dib u Dejinta ahna Wasiirka cusub ee Warshadaha waxaan ugu bogaadinayaa sida sharafta leh ee uu xilka iigu wareejiyey, waxaan isagana ugu hambalyaynayaan jagadaa cusub ee loo magacaabay oo aan weliba ILAAHAY uga baryayo maadaama ay tahay Wasaarad cusub in ilaahay u fududeeyo" Waxa uu intaas ku daray Wasiir Xaglo-toosiye "Waxaan Shaqaalaha dib u dejinta ka codsanayaa inay ila shaqeeyaan siday Wasiir Cabdirisaaq ula shaqayn jireen iyo si ka sii wanaagsan-ba ila shaqeeyaan, waxaanan balan qaadayaa hadii ALLE ka dhigo in aan dar-dar galiyo Wasaarada hawleheega intaa markaan ka gudbo, anigu waxaan ahaa Hogaamiyihii Ururka SSC hadda-na waan ahay Wasiir reer Somaliland ah baan noqday Bulshada reer Somaliland oo dhan baan Wasiir u ahay horumarkooda, nabadooda iyo midnimadoodana waan ka shaqaynayaa waxaan-se u sheegayaa Degaamadii aan ka imid iyo Ehelkaygii inaan u maqnahay inaan dadaal wayn hadii ALLE ka dhigo u gali doono sidii loo xoojin laahaa nabada sidii horumarka looga shaqayn lahaa sidii isbedel looga dhalin lahaa Deegaamadaas" Isaga oo hadalkiisa sii wata, waxa uu yidhi "Haddii ALLE ka dhigo Shalay Hogaamiyohoogii baan ahaa maanta-na wali Hogaamiyohoogii baan ahay tabashooyin badani way jiraan waanay soo gudbisteen, Dawladuna way balan qaaday in la hir-gelinayso waanan ka shaqaynayaa INSHA ALLAH in tabashooyinkaa iyo waxyaalahaa ay soo gudbiyeen in la hir-geliyo, xukun qaybsiguna waa mid meesha ku jira wuuna imanayaa hadii ALLE ka dhigo Wasiiradu-na waa isku mid, Wasaaraduhu-na waa isku mid markaa waan ku qanacsanahay Wasaaradan iyo xilkan lay magacaabay waanan ka midho dhalinayaa hadii ALLE ka dhigo"

The interview is long the first part is with the leader of Kilinka shanaad Abdi Muhammed iley he said ONLF is already part of his government in Jigjiga and the ONLF abroad don't care about his people. He also said that ONLF is an Eritrean proxy and that the Ethiopian government will not hold talks with ONLF since they don't control any territory he also said they must respect the Ethiopian constitution. And next time if they want to have talks they should come to addis ababa no more talks in foreign countries. The second part of the interview is with Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Sh Mahdi Secretary for foreign affairs of the ONLF he said that talks started in September and it went well the first phase of talks but the second phase went wrong because the Ethiopians demanded from the ONLF to respect the Ethiopian constitution. He said that was unacceptable for us we will not be dictated by the Ethiopians what to do how to do it or went to do it , the reporter of the VOA kept saying Somalida Ethiopia. He said please do not call us that we are not Somalida Ethiopia since our people are under occupation the past 100 years we haven't voluntarily decided to be Ethiopians.

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Somaliland: Hagaltosie Assumes Ministerial Mantle Monday, 22 October 2012 14:27 Hon Suleiman Isse Ahmed Hagaltosie, Resetlement MinisterBy: Yusuf M Hasan HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) – It is official, Hagaltosie has exchange militia uniform with a political gown Hon Suleiman Isse Ahmed 'Hagaltosie' has officially assumed the office of minister of Rehabilitation and Rural Development at a colourful ceremony witnessed by hundreds of people among them Traditional leaders, legislators, opposition party bosses and senior public officials at the Civil Service Commission Hall in Hargeisa. While handing over the outgoing resettlement minister Hon Abdirazak Ali Osman briefed on achievements garnered during his one-year tenure among them construction of three resettlement areas for refugee/returnees as well as construction of 75 permanent houses for vulnerable persons in Burao the Togdheer regional capital. The immediate resettlement minister was recently appointed Industry minister after the appointment of Hagaltosie to the resettlement portfolio during a mini-reshuffle effected by the president H.E Ahmed Mahmoud Silanyo last week. Upon receiving official documents and keys to his new office Hon Suleiman Isse Ahmed 'Hagaltosie' the new minister of Resettlement and Rural Development thanked the president for appointing him as well as the entire citizenry for the support accorded him since signing of the Buhodle peace accords. "I promise to repay the president's and citizens confidence in me by working diligently and honestly in pursuit of availing Somalilanders at all corners of the country with effective services that pertain to my portfolio" Said Hon Hagaltosie. The incoming resettlement minister is the former Sool, Sanaag & Cayn (Ain)-SSC militia commander who rehabilitated his Buhodle people back to the mainframe national life after signing a peace accord with president Silanyo. The peace accord that entailed disbanding of the SSC militia and their subsequent assimilation into the security forces, cessation of hostilities, return of escaped residents, appointment of area residents into senior government positions and provision of public services etc. is in full implementation with the Hagaltosie appointment cementing the accord. Since the accord was signed and implementation effective initially with the release of SSC members from Mandera maximum prison, residents of Buhodle region are enjoying life devoid of never ending skirmishes between militias and the national army.

These guys must be really bored

^^ You should not believe what waaheen writes every time.

^^^:D:D

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Raamsade genetics tells us a whole different story languages evolve through out the years you cannot base ethnic origins based on that or culture. There are many cases similar to that of the Scottish who carry the Haplogroup H (mtDNA) While their southern English cousins mostly carry the Haplogroup R1b. The same with the Bihir Tigryans of Eritrea who speak the same language as the tigryans of Ethiopia yet come from different ethnic backgrounds. If you closely read what you have posted it tells you only that 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa when it comes to the Somalis but it doesn't go further into the oromo genetics which in reality is much and much closer to the Amhaaras.The only thing that makes Somalis and oromos close is the faith of Islam and the branch of the cushetic language but not genetics.

HLA class II allele and haplotype frequencies in Ethiopian Amhara and Oromo populations. Fort M, de Stefano GF, Cambon-Thomsen A, Giraldo-Alvarez P, Dugoujon JM, Ohayon E, Scano G, Abbal M. Source Laboratoire d'Immunologie, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire de Rangueil, Toulouse, France. Abstract HLA class II alleles were identified in 181 healthy unrelated Ethiopian children of both sexes and in 350 European controls from the South of France. The Ethiopian individuals belonged to the two major ethnic groups of the country: Oromo (N=83) and Amhara (N=98). In both panels, genetic polymorphism of HLA class II alleles was analysed for the first time by molecular typing of DRB1, DQA1 and DQB1 loci. Allelic and phenotypic frequencies were compared with those of European controls and other African populations. Construction of HLA class II three-locus haplotypes was also performed. The study revealed some differences between the two groups. Characteristic features of Central and North African populations appeared on the Ethiopian HLA genotypes. Surprisingly, DRB1*11 presented one of the lowest gene frequencies in both Ethiopian ethnic groups in contrast to Europeans and West Africans. Furthermore, this decrease was more marked than those observed using serological techniques in other geographically close East African countries. Oromo and Amhara only showed minor differences in spite of their different origins and histories. One significant difference consisted of a lower DRB1*01 gene frequency in Oromo as reported in most West African people. Some new or rare haplotypes were also observed in the Oromo group. Our results underline the distinctive features of the Ethiopian populations among the few HLA genotyping data available for East African groups and emphasise the major interest of such investigations in this region of Africa. A total of 168 different mtDNA haplotypes were observed in 270 Ethiopians and Eritreans, and 72 haplotypes were recovered in 115 Yemeni samples (fig. 2; tables ​tablesA1A1​A1​​​–A6 [online only]). Approximately one-half of both Ethiopian (52.2%) and Yemeni (45.7%) mtDNA lineages belonged to clades specific to sub-Saharan Africa (fig. 2A; table 1), whereas the other half was divided between derived subclades of haplogroups M and N (fig. 2B; table 1) that are, with the exception of M1 and U6 lineages, more common outside Africa. Consistent with the coexistence of sub-Saharan African and Eurasian mtDNA lineages among Ethiopian, Egyptian, and Yemeni populations, the MDS plot (fig. 3) clustered them, together with Egyptians, in between the Near Eastern and the West African and southern African clusters. It is interesting that both Semitic- and Cushitic-speaking populations of Ethiopia were close to each other and did not reveal significant differences (P>.05) in FST distances between themselves (table A7). The differences between Ethiopian and Yemeni populations were significant (P<.01) except in the case of Gurages (P=.0992±.0057). The highest FST distances for the Yemeni population were observed with southern and southeastern Africans (fig. 3; table A7 [online only]). Consistent with that, the admixture analysis showed the Yemeni population as a hybrid of predominantly Ethiopian and Near Eastern maternal gene pools, which provides no significant support for gene flow from Mozambique (

Its also not true that oromos and Somalis share the same genetics this has been proven Language should not be confused with genetics only 20 % of the oromos share the same subclade as the Somalis. Not sure about the afars but we speak a similar language of the cushetic branch these terms were given by European anthropologists Somalis speak a language called the Somali. And the oromos speak oromo the white europeans grouped them in the same category but it doesn't mean they share the same genetics or culture do you know Oromos cant pronounce some of the letters in the Somali alphabet like their Amhaara cousins.

Actually most oromos and Amhaaras dont differentiate so much from each other dont be fooled by languages and cultural difference between oromos and Amhaaras.. Genetically they are much and much closer to each other There were some studies done before the Haplagroup e1b1b was approxtmalty 57% found on oromos and Amhaaraas this haplagroup originates from Ethiopia as the studies say. Reason why is that many Amahaaras became oromos and many oromos became Amhaara.The J1 is also found but in much smaller number in both oromos and Amhaaras and gurages, Ethiopian Ethnic groups are not black an white 150 years ago the oromos in shewa danced as traditional oromos now they dance as the Amhaaras

Not true most Amhaaras Tigrayans Agaws gurage oromos share the same haplagroup and sometimes different subclades the vast majority of them the only difference between the Ethiopians is that smaller groups regardless of their ethnicity share Haplogroup L2a1. The Semitic and Cushetic branches is purely based on languages.

^^ These people are big boned people Somalilanders don't look like that the second thing i knew these people are not Somalilanders. The people of Somaliland know how to use a camera these people dont. The Camera is going every where Somalilanders are very technoliged and their dialect is not that of the Somalilanders.

Haatu;881996 wrote: Somalia, are they reer Darwiish? I dont think so

oba hiloowlow;882093 wrote: how do ethnic ''Somalilandish'' people look like? Ma cushitic mise semitic? Cushitic and Semitic are languages last time i checked its not how people look These people don't have a Somalilandish dialect Somalilandish people look like Somalilanders

Abwaan;882009 wrote: Yeah and then Burco will join khaatumo...amaba xitaa Jubba ayay ku biiri, sida Oba meesha soo dhigay.....this is Soomaalida meesha ay marayso, kooxdii meel wax ka weysa meel kale ayey uqaraab doontaan. waryaa waxa waxba kama jirto Burco waxa weye caasimada labaad eeh Jamhuuriyada Somaliland.

Doctor another question earlier u said u want a new Somaliweyn what do you consider Somaliweyn

^^ Not true Somaliland and Puntland are in a border dispute , puntland is claiming Somaliland territory because they believe some of the residents of the eastern sool and eastern sanaag region share a common tribal lineage with the Puntland tribe. You are correct maybe a conference will not solve everything but it will send a message that the past is the past and a new future is about to be constructed together.

Doctor Kenney i really have to say ur kind of naive u want to solve something but u are turning ur face away from the root cause of the problem distrust between the Somali communities clans and even at subclan level. Dibu heshisin is a word u heard the past 21 years by Somali politicians but it was never done ever in Somalia. There has not been a reconciliation conference in Somalia well they held several reconciliation conferences in nairobi addis djbouti Eritrea Yemen Egypt but non of them were a success. Civil war might be over Kenney but there distrust how do you solve that i ask you forget about a conference how are u willing to build bridges between the different communities.

So wait a minute a subclan of hiiraan lives in Jubaland i thought the hiiraan region was joining Jubaland

Wait a minute hiiraan is joining Jubaland what a mad world

I am not sure who these people are they might be allies of the people of Somaliland but they sure don't sound or look like Ethnic Somalilandish people.

How are these people Somalilanders?