these rethoric arent helping one is calling for midnimo but he doesnt adress how and when what approach to achieve this. and the other one says that the leaders of Somaliland we dont know whether they are muslim or non muslim. not helping at all

The question is how will they move this new admin inside awdal Somaliland . its easy to say ur a state now i recognise you as a state. but hadaad igu ag qayliasid what puprose will that fill

Geedi said Muuse biixi is a traitor and hassan sheikh is a hero he also said muuse will be tried in an international court

Somaliland counters Somalia's objections to Ethiopia MoU with sovereignty assertion Monday February 12, 2024 Somaliland's President Muse Bihi Abdi and Ethiopia's Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed signed an agreement. Ethiopia now formally acknowledges Somaliland as a separate nation, and in return, Somaliland allows Ethiopia to use its ports and waters for naval and commercial purposes for the next 50 years.ENA Hargeisa (HOL) - Following Somalia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs' denunciation of the Somaliland-Ethiopia Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between Somaliland and Ethiopia as a sovereignty violation and regional peace threat, Somaliland has countered these allegations. The self-declared autonomous region emphasized that the agreement with Ethiopia is built on mutual respect and shared goals for regional stability. According to a press release from the Somaliland Government dated February 11, the critique from Somalia regarding the MoU as unlawful is firmly rejected by Hargeisa, labelling it an overt breach of international norms and an infringement on its people's right to self-determination. advertisements The discord stems from the MoU signed on New Year's Day, which irked Somalia by potentially enabling Ethiopia to establish a naval base on the Somaliland coast. Somaliland's Ministry of Foreign Affairs underlined the pact's importance in maintaining territorial integrity and fostering peaceful coexistence and regional cooperation. "We urge Somalia to abandon its outdated claims and respect the aspirations and future prospects of millions of Somalilanders," the statement said, calling for acknowledgment and respect from its neighbor. Somaliland, declaring its independence, underlines the constitutional foundation approved by its citizens in 2001, guiding its democratic elections and governance. "The legitimately elected government has complete authority to engage in agreements or treaties with any state or entity, subject to final approval by the people's representatives," Somaliland asserted, dismissing any doubts about its foreign dealings' legitimacy. In response to Somalia's reference to non-participatory documents, Somaliland clarified, "Somaliland has NEVER been a signatory to the documents mentioned in Somalia's press release," condemning the accusations as unfounded. Somalia has labelled the agreement "null and void," arguing that it contradicts its national constitution, which disallows regional administrations from autonomously entering foreign agreements. Viewing the MoU with Ethiopia as a stride toward legitimizing its autonomy, Somaliland's stance contrasts with Somalia's perception of the agreement as a sovereignty infringement and a setback to its progress, including anti-terrorism efforts and milestones like debt relief and lifting of the UN arms embargo. Somaliland called for cooperation and dialogue to ensure a peaceful outcome; however, the dispute over the Ethiopia MoU presents a considerable challenge to regional diplomacy and stability. The international community, including the United States, the European Union, and the African Union, has voiced concern over the rising tensions.

So the point is not that they want to encourage awdal state to be their own for their own self determination or anything or that it does have the right to gover them selves but it is a way just to stop or halt Somaliland am i correct in this. Now this means that the talks between somalia and somaliland are not officially dead and that ship has sailed now lets move forward how can they actually make it work though how can they install a puppet admin in borame from mogadishu i wonder how this can work.. people forget that this just gives me dejavu i just go back to 1985 not that long ago when afweyen tried to sandwitch the Noble men of the north. And it didnt work what makes him think that the the Bunker can make it happen. no need to re invent the wheel koonfurians learn from the mistakes of ur previous leaders

if the bunker want to stop abiye from visiting Somaliland well they can stop the Ethiopian airliner entering SL , but if Abiye visits jigjiga he can go per car via wajaale and there is nothing the bunker could do

Time will tell indeed Somaliland 33 years with our recognition which is a political difficulty and struggle very hard to obtain. As for Somalia stability and for the country to normalise out of the anarchy and terrorism. is also very difficult if not more difficult . How many leaders did Somali have after 1991 Ali mahdi caydiid abdiqasim cabdilahi Yusuf sheikh dalxiis hassan ulusow Mr Cheese Hassan ulusow intuba taag bay u wayeen

prof samatar for the first time i see prof samatar talking about the late general afweyne in a very negative way

The Republic of Somaliland Position on Somalia’s Claims Regarding the Ethiopia-Somaliland MoU by Qaran News | Feb 11, 2024 The Republic of Somaliland Position on Somalia’s Claims Regarding the Ethiopia-Somaliland MoU Feb 11, 2024 For Immediate Release The Republic of Somaliland Position on Somalia’s Claims Regarding the Ethiopia-Somaliland MoU Hargeisa, Somaliland – February 11, 2024 – the Government of the Republic of Somaliland categorically rejects Somalia’s recent remarks regarding the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed by Somaliland and Ethiopia. The Memorandum of Understanding, centred on collaboration in areas of shared interest such as security, trade, and infrastructure development, is a sovereign decision made by two independent nations and does not require third-party approval. The understanding between Somaliland and Ethiopia is rooted in mutual respect, and a joint aspiration for regional stability. Somalia’s unilateral declaration of the MoU as unlawful blatantly breaches international law and exhibits its ongoing disregard for the self-determination of Somaliland’s people. The MoU upholds the territorial integrity of all nations involved and fosters peaceful cohabitation and regional collaboration. We call on Somalia to relinquish its obsolete assertions and honor the desires and future prospects of millions of Somalilanders. The Republic of Somaliland is an independent, self governing sovereign nation, with its own constitution, duly ratified by its citizens in 1997. Under that constitution, it has held multiple democratic elections where the people exercised their constitutional rights to elect their representatives, at every level of government. The duly elected government under the law, has the full authority to enter into any agreement or treaties with any other willing state or entity, pending final ratification by the people’s representatives. Somaliland has NEVER been a signatory of the documents referenced in Somalia’s press release. Any and all such claims contained in it, are hitherto, duplicitous. Lastly, the Government of the Republic of Somaliland reaffirms its dedication to peacefully pursuing independence and seeking international recognition. We maintain that cooperation and dialogue are indispensable for attaining enduring peace and stability in the Horn of Africa.

what will u say when Somaliland finally is recognised even if takes another decade or 2.. What is closer or likely to happen Somalia to fully recover defeat shabaab magically unite puntland jubbaland hirshabeele south western state galmudug under one united republic and remove all Foreing troops from Somalia Or Somaliland gaining recognition which is more likely to happen

haye ina cumar geele muxu garadaada ka raba tallow

the agreement have to be drafted first then we can discuss the details dont u think u cant reject something u havent seen.. So far what we know is 20 km land lease on the coast for about 50 years so that ethiopia can build a naval base. Somaliland to get a share in the Ethiopian arilines and Diplomatic recognition from Ethiopia This is what we know the finer details we dont know

yaa dilay askarta

Ethiopian Foreign affairs Committe on the Historic Somaliland Ethiopia mou Also the Supreme General of the Ethiopian army spoke about this

Faisal ali waraabe compares ilhaan omar to her cousin ayaan hirsi magan hahaha lol waligay sida uma qoslin

why are they kneeling what is the purpse for this abiye really thinks he is king Xayle sellasie

No because ur ridicled the national cause of SL which is to be a separate nation i could care less about biixi he can have an hard attack tomorow and his days are numbered any ways the SL people do not like dictatorship how ever what will remain is Somaliland its people its struggle Somaliland people have rejected it in 1991 via a referendum in 2001. That ship has sailed there is no discussion about that there is no political party in SL that advocates the unity with the bunker . Nobody is thtreatening anybody people assume that it was the SNM or calan cas or the others that did the declareation of the independence it was the people of SL that forced the SNM to declare independence siilanyo tuur ibrahim meygag. Non of them wanted it Even in cigaal kept the window open up untiil 2001. When he prepaired the constitition before that kept the window open as he envisioned that he could have ruled hargeisa and mogadishu together , but the people didnt want it. ina cigaal was even aksed by the US state department take the UN SOMALI seat since the walanweyns were having a total melt down and anarchy in walanweynia. But dadki bu ka baqay . SO the SL cause is a peoples cause it doesnt belong to biixi ina cigaal silaanyo tuur ina rayaale ciiro faisal selebaal gaal ina kahin. it belongs to the people the handfull politicans of SL they would have sold us to the highest bidder sababtay u sameyn wayeen because shacabka ka baqayaan. Somaliland tageer , u can piss on ina biixi who cares leaders of SL come and go and he shall go like his predecessors went

according to the bunker they never stopped anything so they were lying this is not a game ur playing with people lives a patient need an ambulance with special need , qof sidaas ah diyaarad normal ah lama raacin karo

ILLYRIA mar mar caqli fiican baad ku hadhasha

buur madow has set awdal mps in the bunker wanted to sign a deal with ethiopia before any one else the ugaas of the awdal clan resides in addis ababa there were hints of renting or leasing zeila out before the mou even was established there were awdal elders that wanted this to happen. Its just now they cant sign it because biixii signed it . Mida xigta is every one wants to lease or rent out something . its just that they oppose the other side doing it . but if they want to do it its fine Somalidu munafaqada aad bay ugu dheereyaan

Tallaabo have u now offiically endorsed the walanweyn ideology of the cancerous union and u wish to put SL under the bunker

Borama fellow responded to the man who arrived today in the Bunker

ofcourse alshabaab is easier to solve alshabaab is just a integral walanawyen problem which is grievances against AMISOM and stuff and a bit of a theological issue. SL is a different country with different identity diffferent cultural identity different history different struggle SL questions the very state established in 1960 the flag the symbols the constitution the union everything. You cant reconcile that it cant happen and it will not happen.Ma sheegin in 200years maybe if people get tired. now SL has existed longer then the cancerious union existed in those 30 years SL existed now 33 years the cancerous union existed only 30 years. Soon there will be no one alive that remembers the cancerous union it self , that day will be important knowing that 70 percent of the SL population is under 35. and all they know is SL. And i can assure u it a strange thing that they will be ruled from mogadishu a far a way city they have no connection to at alll

You dont get it he doesnt make money from Koonfurians or from Somaliland people in latin America australia indoenesia south east asia they bring and use his company . Dahabshill has assets in the Horn all over the Horn .- Ahmed is a true Somaliland nationalist he is the next big thing what u mean by securing the borders