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Raamsade genetics tells us a whole different story languages evolve through out the years you cannot base ethnic origins based on that or culture. There are many cases similar to that of the Scottish who carry the Haplogroup H (mtDNA) While their southern English cousins mostly carry the Haplogroup R1b. The same with the Bihir Tigryans of Eritrea who speak the same language as the tigryans of Ethiopia yet come from different ethnic backgrounds. If you closely read what you have posted it tells you only that 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa when it comes to the Somalis but it doesn't go further into the oromo genetics which in reality is much and much closer to the Amhaaras.The only thing that makes Somalis and oromos close is the faith of Islam and the branch of the cushetic language but not genetics.

HLA class II allele and haplotype frequencies in Ethiopian Amhara and Oromo populations. Fort M, de Stefano GF, Cambon-Thomsen A, Giraldo-Alvarez P, Dugoujon JM, Ohayon E, Scano G, Abbal M. Source Laboratoire d'Immunologie, Centre Hospitalier Universitaire de Rangueil, Toulouse, France. Abstract HLA class II alleles were identified in 181 healthy unrelated Ethiopian children of both sexes and in 350 European controls from the South of France. The Ethiopian individuals belonged to the two major ethnic groups of the country: Oromo (N=83) and Amhara (N=98). In both panels, genetic polymorphism of HLA class II alleles was analysed for the first time by molecular typing of DRB1, DQA1 and DQB1 loci. Allelic and phenotypic frequencies were compared with those of European controls and other African populations. Construction of HLA class II three-locus haplotypes was also performed. The study revealed some differences between the two groups. Characteristic features of Central and North African populations appeared on the Ethiopian HLA genotypes. Surprisingly, DRB1*11 presented one of the lowest gene frequencies in both Ethiopian ethnic groups in contrast to Europeans and West Africans. Furthermore, this decrease was more marked than those observed using serological techniques in other geographically close East African countries. Oromo and Amhara only showed minor differences in spite of their different origins and histories. One significant difference consisted of a lower DRB1*01 gene frequency in Oromo as reported in most West African people. Some new or rare haplotypes were also observed in the Oromo group. Our results underline the distinctive features of the Ethiopian populations among the few HLA genotyping data available for East African groups and emphasise the major interest of such investigations in this region of Africa. A total of 168 different mtDNA haplotypes were observed in 270 Ethiopians and Eritreans, and 72 haplotypes were recovered in 115 Yemeni samples (fig. 2; tables ​tablesA1A1​A1​​​–A6 [online only]). Approximately one-half of both Ethiopian (52.2%) and Yemeni (45.7%) mtDNA lineages belonged to clades specific to sub-Saharan Africa (fig. 2A; table 1), whereas the other half was divided between derived subclades of haplogroups M and N (fig. 2B; table 1) that are, with the exception of M1 and U6 lineages, more common outside Africa. Consistent with the coexistence of sub-Saharan African and Eurasian mtDNA lineages among Ethiopian, Egyptian, and Yemeni populations, the MDS plot (fig. 3) clustered them, together with Egyptians, in between the Near Eastern and the West African and southern African clusters. It is interesting that both Semitic- and Cushitic-speaking populations of Ethiopia were close to each other and did not reveal significant differences (P>.05) in FST distances between themselves (table A7). The differences between Ethiopian and Yemeni populations were significant (P<.01) except in the case of Gurages (P=.0992±.0057). The highest FST distances for the Yemeni population were observed with southern and southeastern Africans (fig. 3; table A7 [online only]). Consistent with that, the admixture analysis showed the Yemeni population as a hybrid of predominantly Ethiopian and Near Eastern maternal gene pools, which provides no significant support for gene flow from Mozambique (

Its also not true that oromos and Somalis share the same genetics this has been proven Language should not be confused with genetics only 20 % of the oromos share the same subclade as the Somalis. Not sure about the afars but we speak a similar language of the cushetic branch these terms were given by European anthropologists Somalis speak a language called the Somali. And the oromos speak oromo the white europeans grouped them in the same category but it doesn't mean they share the same genetics or culture do you know Oromos cant pronounce some of the letters in the Somali alphabet like their Amhaara cousins.

Actually most oromos and Amhaaras dont differentiate so much from each other dont be fooled by languages and cultural difference between oromos and Amhaaras.. Genetically they are much and much closer to each other There were some studies done before the Haplagroup e1b1b was approxtmalty 57% found on oromos and Amhaaraas this haplagroup originates from Ethiopia as the studies say. Reason why is that many Amahaaras became oromos and many oromos became Amhaara.The J1 is also found but in much smaller number in both oromos and Amhaaras and gurages, Ethiopian Ethnic groups are not black an white 150 years ago the oromos in shewa danced as traditional oromos now they dance as the Amhaaras

Not true most Amhaaras Tigrayans Agaws gurage oromos share the same haplagroup and sometimes different subclades the vast majority of them the only difference between the Ethiopians is that smaller groups regardless of their ethnicity share Haplogroup L2a1. The Semitic and Cushetic branches is purely based on languages.

^^ These people are big boned people Somalilanders don't look like that the second thing i knew these people are not Somalilanders. The people of Somaliland know how to use a camera these people dont. The Camera is going every where Somalilanders are very technoliged and their dialect is not that of the Somalilanders.

Haatu;881996 wrote: Somalia, are they reer Darwiish? I dont think so

oba hiloowlow;882093 wrote: how do ethnic ''Somalilandish'' people look like? Ma cushitic mise semitic? Cushitic and Semitic are languages last time i checked its not how people look These people don't have a Somalilandish dialect Somalilandish people look like Somalilanders

Abwaan;882009 wrote: Yeah and then Burco will join khaatumo...amaba xitaa Jubba ayay ku biiri, sida Oba meesha soo dhigay.....this is Soomaalida meesha ay marayso, kooxdii meel wax ka weysa meel kale ayey uqaraab doontaan. waryaa waxa waxba kama jirto Burco waxa weye caasimada labaad eeh Jamhuuriyada Somaliland.

Doctor another question earlier u said u want a new Somaliweyn what do you consider Somaliweyn

^^ Not true Somaliland and Puntland are in a border dispute , puntland is claiming Somaliland territory because they believe some of the residents of the eastern sool and eastern sanaag region share a common tribal lineage with the Puntland tribe. You are correct maybe a conference will not solve everything but it will send a message that the past is the past and a new future is about to be constructed together.

Doctor Kenney i really have to say ur kind of naive u want to solve something but u are turning ur face away from the root cause of the problem distrust between the Somali communities clans and even at subclan level. Dibu heshisin is a word u heard the past 21 years by Somali politicians but it was never done ever in Somalia. There has not been a reconciliation conference in Somalia well they held several reconciliation conferences in nairobi addis djbouti Eritrea Yemen Egypt but non of them were a success. Civil war might be over Kenney but there distrust how do you solve that i ask you forget about a conference how are u willing to build bridges between the different communities.

So wait a minute a subclan of hiiraan lives in Jubaland i thought the hiiraan region was joining Jubaland

Wait a minute hiiraan is joining Jubaland what a mad world

I am not sure who these people are they might be allies of the people of Somaliland but they sure don't sound or look like Ethnic Somalilandish people.

How are these people Somalilanders?

Its not the lack of professionalism that is a set back its the non willingness to change something its not the plan or the idea that is holding us back its the lack of putting it into practice. In theory it can be the most easiest thing to do but putting a nation wide plan into practice is another thing. in Somaliland national institutions are strengthening the past decade or so and you see each year that goes by the government plays a significant role in delivering basics services to its people. Can you imagine were we were 10 years ago or 15 years ago its a slowly process but its going. What we need to do is re invent our social structure as people such as finding the dots between the proletariat middle class and the influential public sector of Somaliland. To tackle corruption and to really reconstruct good governance is to emphasise the different political players that play a role in this traditional bureaucratic system of somaliland. for instance in assessing the different type of national and sub national organizations that are based in the country can be reshaped with the right schooling and fundings by the government this requires a minimum budget. I am optimistic i know we are not there but we are heading the right direction in time we will reach our destination.

Creating jobs and building basic infrastructure in the country is a priority but there are limited resources bilateral aid is also limited. What needs to be done is fight corruption and implement proper tax collection all over the country. The private sector how ever is booming in Somaliland, but to create a viable economy Somaliland needs to look towards industrialization it will take time this current government is trying to attrack foreign investors to have a head start in this process but even that will be limited with the nonrecognition status of the country.Invest in education health create a working force in Somaliland. But on the other hand projects like the somcable project even though it was privately conducted by a Somaliland businessmen and encouraged by the government, it still will create more than 50.000 jobs. Somaliland security is top notch it just needs to modernize its Army and Military hardware.

Actually cabinet is doing lots of things for instance the Minister of aviation is doing a project of reconstructing both the hargeysa and burco airports the hargeysa airport is right now under construction.The minister of planning and finance minister are re organizing the tax system of the country they are currently in the eastern part of the country. So there is lots of activities going on in the cabinet. But because Somaliland is a poor country it takes time to see real changes.

And having cabinet sessions with his government but next month there are local elections so he is also busy with that.

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There is lack of fundings for these projects thats why you wont see large scale developments but nevertheless these are developments a year ago there was no stadium in berbera today there is and that is something we should welcome.

First 10 years were great the Somali democratic republic was thriving economically Militarily politically socially the country was in good shape for the first time. Somalis had a written alphabet the iska wax u qabso projects of the country made sure people can really make a change. The last 10 years were disastrous for the country after we returned from the Ethiopian Somali war. The country was in a economical crisis we were living out of hand outs from the west the country was facing many problems at that time. We broke with the soviets, nepotism clanism continued for a while rebels started organizing themselves and the rest we know.