Tallaabo all i said was Puntland should actively be involved in nation building in Somalia they introduced federalism they helped with the constitution what is wrong with that Puntland is having security problems true but as long as Somalia is unstable with no strong security forces Puntland will still have to be double as alert. Because anything can happen but if they contribute to the peace and stability in Somalia if they help fight against Alshabaab they can make a change if they help establish security forces for the whole country. Tallaabo ur question about Somaliland,, Somaliland doesn't want to be associated with Somalia they dont consider themselves as Somalis at least thats the message coming from Hargeysa there is no point of wasting my time with them. Puntland on the other hand stands for union it stands for helping Somalia its stands for creating a better Somalia but the problem is Dr Osman wants to ignore Somalia and just concentrate on Bosaaaso garowe galkacyo bargaal qardho xafun and bendar bayla he wants to ignore the rest of the country and i think thats a good idea. Somalia today needs Puntland the most and Puntland needs Somalia the most its a win win for both of them if they work together.

Xukuumadda Somaliland Oo Sheegtay In Hay’addaha Amaanku Ku Hawlan Yihiin Soo Qabashada Cidii Ka Dambaysay Dilkii Wariyihii Universal Ee Laascaanood Hargeysa (Ramaas) Oct 24,2012 – Xukuumadda Somaliland ayaa Tacsi u dirtay ehelkii uu ka baxay Wariye Axmed Saakin Faarax oo xalay dablay hubaysani ku dileen Magaaladda Laascaanood. War-saxaafadeed uu soo saaray Afhayeenka xukuumadda Somaliland, ahna Wasiirka Warfaafinta Abiib Diiriye Nuur (Timo-cadde), ayaa lagu sheegay in hay’adda amaanku ku hawlan yihiin sidii ay u soo qaban lahaayeen gacan ku dhiiglayaashii dilka Wariyaha gaystay “Xukuumadda Jamhuuriyadda Somaliland waxay tacsiyadeynaysaa qoyskii, Qaraabadii iyo dhammaan bahda Warbaahinta, gaar ahaan Tv-ga Universal ee uu u shaqeynayey Marxuum Axmed Saakin Faarax, oo xalay lagu dilay Magaaladda Laascaanood, xukuumadda Somaliland waxay cambaaraynaysaa falkaasi foosha xun, iyaddoo qarankani aanu u udul qaadan doonin falalka noocan oo kale oo ugub ku ah dalkan. Hay’addaha amniga ee u xilsaaran waxa ay ku hawlan yihiin siday gacanta ugu dhigi lahaayeen dambiilayaashii geystay dilkaasi”

JB are you afraid Dr Cismaan will join:D Either way security is important security forces should be alert

Jamaal was under fire by the Somaliland HCTV reporter why did you say Somaliland region of Somalia very interesting interview listen from 28:05. The reporter said you should've said Somaliland an independent state with no recognition at the world stage like zainab al badawi did of the BBC.

Simple deploy more Somaliland security forces to sool tighten the security of the region Under the command of this man

Jacaylbaro did khatumo claim responsibility for this attack?

Chimera you made some good points but what you are also forgetting is prior to colonialism Somalis were the same as how they operate now divided loyal to clan even at sub clan level. You are correct when you say Somalis are the most homogeneous group in Africa speak the same language culture look the same physically. But the problem Somalis were nomads conquering lands from the 14 century till the 18 century. So they don't have this mindset of ownership of land, every somali clan or sub clan went his own direction in capturing new lands this is where the friction comes. True the Adal and Walashama dynasties were capable governments or the Ajurran empire in the south but even they came short when it came to uniting their forces. You have a point that if Somalis had no clan or sub clan structure but based themselves on regions and provinces it would've been better than the Somali identity for all would've worked. Do you know Somalis are the only group in Africa with the biggest territory but they cant seem to unite politically they aren't able to shape a common Somali identity the question is why you should answer that Chimera.

Dr osman Puntland has a President a vice president a parliament MPS a police force a military force its peaceful its secure it will be that way. But at the same time while Puntland is secure u are forgetting the bigger picture. Dr osman as long as Somalia is weak , Puntland cant thrive successively since Puntland is located in Somalia and linked with Somalia , Problems in Somalia will always hunt Puntland. So in order for Puntland to be in a better position Puntland needs to contribute to the peace and stability of the rest of Somalia. Dr osman Mr Faroole is very much involved in southern and central Somalia politics he played a crucial role as one of the most important signatures when the transitional period was about to be ended. Puntland can continue to play such a role it doesn't need a prime minister or president to be effective in Somalia. Puntland has a whole functioning government in garowe. Dr osman its a win win you can be an example you can be a leader you can contribute to the peace and stability in Somalia and at the same time Puntland is secure and is making progress. Do you see where i am heading do you see now where Puntland and Somalia can be in the next 20 years you need to look beyond the days of today you need to look in the future Dr osman you need to have a long term vision.

Dr osman i am not saying Puntland is an obstacle far from it Faroole spoke well welcoming the new government both the president and the prime minister. But i am saying Puntland is the most well established state in Somalia and the most well organized cant they contribute politically Militarily to the future of Somalia central and southern Somalia in particularly.You know the capacity of this current government in Mogadishu is minimum it needs the help of all the people of Somalia entities and governments. Dr osman sometimes you have to be the bigger man are you not a leader of Somalia so what if the folks in Mogadishu here and there act immature. Does that mean you should do the same no you should be an example you're selling you're self short Dr Osman.

Dr Osman its important to have a strong Puntland and its security forces are also welcome but dont you think after 15 years of Puntland existence as a state ,dont you think after 21 years of turmoil in Somalia. Its time to establish a strong Somali armed forces. Puntland is pretty secure it has police forces armed forces navy forces. Is it now time to establish all of that for Somalia why do you want to wait Dr osman why not be the leader its time to set the pace you have to show ur leadership skills like you're grandfathers did they were leaders Dr osman do you want to be a follower or a leader like King Osman and Sultan Ali Yusuf and President Abdirashid ali sharmarke.

Dr_Osman;882802 wrote: Xaji why would we want a strong somalia so it can attack us. We want a strong puntland in boys we can trust. Puntland will continue the path of modernizing its security sector and somalis will need to deal with But Somalia and Puntland are one Puntland strength is Somalia's strength and Somalia's strength is Puntland strength. Dr Osman how long do you think Puntland can remain a semi autonomous state with its own capable armed forces and navy forces. Dr Osman why not establish a strong Somali armed forces and let Puntland have the lead in that. Now that Somalia is a federal republic its time to Build Somalia.

Dr osman can you answer my question about Puntlands role in stabilizing Somalia and delivering troops to southern Somalia perhaps even help built a capable Somali armed forces?

^^ i wouldn't mind that koley ilaahay ba naga bad badiiyey thank god i was much and much younger at that time.

^^ Lool waxba ka jira

Apophis;882745 wrote: When exactly was this “shalay"? I think between 1960 till 1991

Welcome to Clan federalism.

Mr Somalia i am aware what is going on in Garowe Mr Faroole Leader of Puntland has been arming him self to the teeth the past 3 years. One of the Arab Countries are his biggest arms suppliers even though there is an Arms embargo on Somalia but Faroole doesn't care and continues this the Dr knows this 2 . The Army is a big militia you are right but its a big organized Militia equipped with not so bad Military hardware.

Read this norf http://www.gabiley.net/pages/tDetails.php?source=news&ID=24099&permission=1&audioFile=

Somalia;882725 wrote: Puntland has no army, it has police and paramilitary force, as the pictures illustrate it's just a militia with a new name. The doctor agrees with me. I am sure the Doctor can speak for him self

Chimera wants to redefine the Somali identity as the only tribe of the Somali country but there was never a Somali identity there were always tribal fiefdoms prior colonialism. The only way to have a Somali identity is if Somalia becomes a multi ethnic country where 40% of the people are not Somalis but from Kenya Ethiopia Tanzania Arabia Bangladesh India Jamaica Morocco. Somalis care about 3 things Their religion their tribe and their money Chimera imagine adigu 18 century ku nool adigu hare digeed marayaa oo adigu geel badan wata iyo xoolo badan iyo dumar badan oo nin Somali ku yidha ana Xoolo badan baan haysta ma isku geyna xoolaheena. Dabeedna ninka halka fadhiya eeh waranka sita eeh Goa cad huwan aynu u dhiibano xoolaheena. What will his reaction be do you think he would accept or not.

Dr osman give us ur feedback should these strong troops fight against alshabaab along side the Somali government. I don't think Federalism is supposed to mean to have a strong army in one part of the country. If that's the case Puntland can form a threat to the federal government imagine a section of America having a strong army with special forces that are not part of the US army.

Wariyihii Universal oo goor dhaweyd lagu dillay Laascaanood Laascaanood(Waaheen) Wariyihii Telefishanka Universal ee magaaladda Laascaanood Axmed Saki ayaa goor dhaweyd Toogasho lagu Dillay isagoo maraya gurigiisa agtiisa ee gudaha Laascaanood. Warkan waxa Waaheen u xaqiijiyay Wariye C/qani Gadari ooh ore uga tirsanaan jiray Wariyayaasha Telefishankaasi balse cabsi awgeed uga soo qaxay kadib markii ay kooxo ugu hanjabeen in ay Dilli doonaan haddii uu sii joogo magaaladda. “imika ayaa walaal la toogtay wariyahaas isagoo gurigiisa ku dhaw ilaa hada cid looma qaban, waxaan filayaa uun cida fal kaas fulisay inay tahay kooxdii anigaba ii hanjabtay” ayuu yidhi C/qani Gadari. Dilka Wariyaha ayaa ku soo hagaagay xili uu saaka magalaadaasi ka dhacay qarax lala beegsaday laba qof, kaasoo ay Booliisku sheegeen inay qof u qabteen.

When will Puntlands army be incorporated into the Somali army?

You guys are taking this to lightly that's someone's daughter someone's child where is the justice????

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