Abwaan inyar bu u jira inu yidha Xaajiguna Somali maha:D

Oke Abtigiis and Zack might not be from kismayo but Abwaan you are not from Kismayo either marka maxa ku xalaleeyey inad adigu ka hadashid iyagana u diiday. Ileen iyaga kama Somalisanide?

Haatu;887774 wrote: Xaaji, I did not attack any qabiil nor did I discredit anyone's Soomaalinimo in the hope of adding weight to my argument like Abwaan is doing. All I stated was the truth, the groups that actually have a stake in the Jubbooyin are fully behind this process. Those that have no stake whatsoever are the ones that are causing all this noise. That said, I'm still against federalism and all maamuul beeleeds, but that doesn't mean I'll stand up for injustice too. I support you haatu you are very dhex dhexaad which is good

Eeg abwaanow waxad samaysey Haatu oo waligi qabyalaad ka hadlin oo mamuul beeleysiga ka so horjeeda markad tidhi reerkisu Somali maha dadki oo dhan waad isku dirtay niyo wa ku sidee.

As for carafaat i think he is trying to be very impartial in this situation wanting Kismayo and Mogadisho to be shared equally by Somalis. But Abwaan has a point to Carafaat was a diehard udub supporter.

Apophis;887612 wrote: Divide and conquer. What Somalilanders want to conquer Somalia now thats a good joke

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The debate was purely what people discuss here on SOL The MP was saying that Raskambooni brigade is one clan trying to rule the others The MP was saying that the Jubalanders are not all supporting this state and some clans are being sidelined. The other guy's argument was that Somalia is a federal country and the indigenous people have the right to establish their own states. And his other argument about Raskambooni was that they fought the hardest against alshabaab and have a right to be the security forces of a future Jubaland state.

Somaliland to Attend Regional Conference focused on Security Somaliland Delegation led by Foreign Minister and International Relations Dr. Mohamed Abdilallahi Omar and the Minister of internal Affairs Hon Mohamed Nuur Araale today flew out of the country headed for Nairobi the Kenyan capital yesterday at the Berbera International Airport. The Somaliland Delegation is to take part in a conference focused on the political and security situation of the East Africa region and that the Somaliland delegation is expected during their stay they’re expected to meet Kenyan government officials and other officials from the various diplomatic missions based there. Their mission is expected to enhance diplomatic relations with both neighboring and friendly countries.

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Hallow Jigjiga hallow garisa hallow Garowe:D What a funny program

STOIC very simple koonfurian politics The president being from one clan The clan from Kismayo and the juba regions are from another clan The President wants to impose his rule of law in Kismayo The locals in Kismayo being from another clan we want to rule our own territories Puntlanders have some kind of sympathy with the Kismayo clan due to sharing a common ancestor and their dislike of the govt in Xamar. The gedo clan are in a dilemma on one side they are part of the new govt Saacid shirdoon and on the other they don't mind a state in Kismayo led by their kin. Than we have Mr Yusuf haaji and farah macalin top Kenyan Politicians but they share the same ancestors as the one in the juba regions and they encourage their kin in Jubaland to have their own state.

My favorite Aduun ba gabadh yahay one of a kind Muhammad mooge Liibaan

Puntlanders just want to undermine the authority of president hassan sheikh Maxamuud they started this HAG nonsense , but they cant do it alone so they are trying to use the big foot community in their campaign. And the President made some bad decisions he just needs to make sure his government gets approved by parliament and make sure the Amisom troops in Kismayo take orders from him. As for the establishment of a new state the government needs to be involved but just as an observer. He also needs to use the Prime minister as a key player in the juba regions knowing that there are some elements in kismayo opposed to his presidency.

Wasiirro ka tirsan xukuumadda Somaliland oo u kicitimay dalka Kenya November 10th, 2012 HARGEYSA (Somaliland.Org)- Wefti uu hogaaminayo Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibedda iyo Iskaashiga Caalamiga Somaliland Dr. Maxamed C/llaahi Cumar oo ay ku weheliyaan Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Mudane Maxamed Nuur Caraale iyo xubno kale oo Dawlada ka tirsan ayaa maanta ka ambabaxay Garoonka Diyaaradaha ee Berbera iyaga oo u sii jeeda Caasimada Dalka Kenya ee Nayroobi, waxaanay ku sii hakan doonaan Caasimada Ethiopia ee Adisababa. Weftiga waxa la filayaa inay ka qayb gali doonaan Shirar la xidhiidha amniga iyo Siyaasada Mandaqada Geeska Afrika. Mudada ay joogaan waftigu Magaalada Nayroobi waxay la kulmi doonaan Masuuliyiin ka tirsan Dawlada Kenya iyo Diplomaasiyiinta Shisheeye ee Fadhigoodu yahay Magaalada Nayroobi. Hawlahan waxay qayb ka yihiin sii adkaynta Xidhiidhka iyo wada-shaqayntooda Somaliland iyo wadamada jaarka.

Madaxweynaha Somaliland Oo Furay Cisbitaalka guud ee degmadda Sheekh November 10th, 2012 Sheekh (Somaliland.Org)- Madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) ayaa maanta xadhiga ka jaray cisbitaalka guud ee magaaladda Sheekh ee gobolka Saaxil. Kaasi oo ay iska kaashadeen dawlada Kuwayt iyo Somaliland. Madaxweynuhu waxa kale oo uu dhagax dhigay dhismaha gurigii martida ee degmada Sheekh oo ku burburay dagaaladii taliskii siyaad barre ku burburiyeen Somaliland. Madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) hadal uu ka jeediyay furitaankii cisbitaalkaasi waxa uu sheegay inuu qeyb ka yahay qodobadii xukuumaddu balan qaaday inay ka hirgeliso gobolka Saaxil. Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo waxa uu u mahad celiyay dawladda Kuwayt oo uu tilmaamay inay gacan ka geysatay cisbitaalkaasi. Madaxweynuhu waxa kale oo uu balan qaaday inay dawladdu sii wadi doonto mashaariicda lagu horumarinayo adeegyada aasaasiga ah ee gobolka Saaxil/ Wasiirka caafimaadka Somaliland Dr. Xuseen Muxumed Maxamed oo isna ka hadlay xafladaasi ayaa sheegay inuu hal ambalaas ku soo kordhin doono sadexdii ambalaas ee hore ay u lahayd degmada Sheekh. Wasiirka Caafimaadku waxa uu ku dooday in cisbitaalkani uu wax weyn ka tari doono adeega caafimaad ee degmadaasi. Madaxweynaha waxa socdaalkan ku weheliya Marwada koowaad ee Somaliland Marwo Aamina Sh. Maxamed Jirde, Wasiirrada Madaxtooyadda, Caafimaadka, Hawlaha Guud, Waxbarashadda, warshadaha, Wasiir Ku xigeenadda wasaaradaha warfaafinta iyo caafimaadka. Intaasi ka dib waxa weftiga madaxweynuhu u kicitimeen magaaladda Burco ee xarunta gobolka Tog-dheer, halkaasi oo si weyn loogu soo dhaweeyay.

Che -Guevara;887563 wrote: LOL...one thing is clear, Somalis are not ready for peace and reconciliation. Somalis never tried to have proper reconciliation process their idea of reconciliation is to reconcile warlords in foreign capitals. How come no one ever tried to reconcile the nation in a proper way inside the country by Somalis for Somalis. Did the civil war end we don't know all we know is they keep ignoring that Somalis fought an ugly civil war and need to reconcile for the sake of their country and the future of their children.

And what is wrong with that dont see what you trying to say here elections is wrong

Somaliland: 16 Countries to Observe Local Council Elections Friday, 09 November 2012 16:30 Dr Steve Kibble ® to coordinate international election observer mission with Dr Walls"As ever we look forward to the enthusiasm of the Somaliland people in exercising their democratic rights"- Dr Steve Kibble "these elections are an important next step in the institutionalisation of a system that brings together representative democratic institutions with traditional social organisational structures"- Dr Michael Walls By: Yusuf M Hasan HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) - International shall establish their presence in all polling stations in the country. This was revealed by Dr Steve Kibble who will coordinate international observers during the local council elections slated for 28th November 2012. During an interview with Reporter Hamse Bulbul of SLNTV Dr Kibble who informed that observers from 16 countries are on their way, said that his international team will ensure fair and free election result by also observing vote counting at the polling stations. Said he, "We are here to ensure that Somaliland maintains its world renowned reputation of free and fair election conduct as well as report to the world the outcome" The countries that are expected to send observers who should be in place a fortnight before polling day that includes USA, UK, South Africa, Kenya, Sweden, Norway, etc shall be supported by others from a number of organizations led by Progressio which Dr Kibble represents, the Development Planning Unit at UCL and Somaliland Focus (UK) Dr Steve Kibble who promised diligence from his team of international observers informed that a meeting with NEC resulted in accords pertaining to the guidelines for the soon to arrive multi-cultural team of international election observers. Since it is not the first time for Dr Kibble to participate in such an exercise in the country having similarly coordinated the both parliamentary and presidential elections in 2005 and 2010 respectively, it is anticipated that logistic and other arrangements for the good conduct of observing the elections will run smoothly. Through his experience and numerous studies of the country's democratization process Dr Steve Kibble has written extensively not only on past presidential and parliamentary elections but on the imminent local council one as well. The revelation that 16 countries and several organizations are sending representatives to observe the elections comes as no surprise since the invitation by NEC to Progressio and its subsequent acceptance pointed to Dr Kibble running the show thus a broad make up of the foreign observers. As in 2010, Dr Steve Kibble (of Progressio) shall be assisted by Dr Michael Walls (of UCL) in coordinating the international elections observer mission funded by the United Kingdom's Department for International Development (DFID). In issuing the invitation, Eng. Isse Yusuf Mohamed, the NEC's chair, said: "Somaliland has long demonstrated a commitment to the consolidation of the democracy which has been in place since 1991. We welcome a diverse range of international observers." The mission shares this commitment, and observers will come from a wide range of countries and backgrounds. Despite earlier concerns that the scheduled date left little time for effective preparations, the high level of commitment on the ground means the date is likely to stand. With seven political parties contesting the polls (as opposed to the three which previously participated) and a vast field of candidates, this poll presents additional logistical challenges to those faced in 2005 and 2010. Delays in getting the voting process going and disputes over which political parties are permitted to participate have sharpened tensions among local stakeholders. Changes to rules mean the poll is likely to see increased participation by younger Somalilanders and women, both as voters and candidates: while these are positive developments, they are likely to test established social structures. While there remain outstanding logistical issues to be resolved around the mission, especially around the security of observers, the team is confident these will be resolved speedily. Dr Michael Walls said "these elections are an important next step in the institutionalisation of a system that brings together representative democratic institutions with traditional social organisational structures. Not only will they decide the personnel who will be responsible for municipal councils in the coming years, but they will determine the three political parties who will contest parliamentary and presidential elections for the next decade." He continued, "Somaliland has established a remarkable record of peaceful elections, and that record is attracting ever greater levels of interest from governments and investors internationally. Successful 2012 local elections will provide another substantial milestone on that path." Dr Steve Kibble added: "As ever we look forward to the enthusiasm of the Somaliland people in exercising their democratic rights.