He considers Ileey ONLF 2 he is a confused aggame.

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Apophis;906395 wrote: Forget where I'm from and just look at the title of the thread. JB is trying to say "bal arka" but came with a "adba", doesn't even sound Somali Bal adba and bal arka is not the same Bal adba is used when people are trying to make a point and want ur attention it has nothing to do with ara, adba comes from adiga adugu ba idinka adba idina. Waryaa Apophis waxad hore u sheegtey inad xamar ku dhalatay laakin hadaad tahay qolyahan aqaanay Afsomaligunu ma guuro unless u were raised by ethnic koonfurians.

Looks Good slaantaasi way shaqeysatey thanks for sharing Alpha

Taleexi in Somaliland they know how to deal with tribalism they gave it a place they fully embraced it and than they found a way to manage it in a way its acceptable in the society. But tribalism and people fighting the struggle of tribal identity vs national identity is very much alive in Somalia Somaliland Somali galbeed. Apophis it is in a way but Somalia consists of a few tribes and each tribe wants to have his own identity with his little territory like the way it was before colonialism.

'Liibaan';906374 wrote: X Xunjuf, hadal badan looma baahna, shacabka Somaliland iyo shacabka Khaatumo waa dad walaala ah oo wax badan ka dhaxeeyo. Dhibaatada waxa keenaya waa dagaalada iyo in khasab wax lagu raadiyo. Hadalkii oo kooban, Shacabka Somaliland waa diideen inay Somalia ka mid noqdaan oo Somaliweyn wax la qeybsadaan, Shacabka Somaliland waxa ee rabaan inay Go'aan oo Jamhuuriyada Somaliland loo aqqonsado. Sidoo kale, Shacabka Khaatumo/Maakhir waa diideen inay Somaliland ka mid noqdaan oo ka go'aan Somalia. Shacabka Khaatumo/Maakhir waxa ee rabaan inay Somaliweyn wax la qeybsadaan, oo ka mid noqdaan Jamhuuriyada Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Maamul Goboleed Khaatumo/Maakhir. Waxa waajib ah in lagawada shaqeeyo sidii ummada soomaaliyeed ee Geeska Africa nabad ugu wada noolaadaan, waana in la ogaada in dagaal iyo khasab ma shaqeenayo, dadkuna ma aqbalyaan in la cabudhiyo oo la xoogo. Wa sax taasi Liibaanow rabitaanka shacabku wa Muhiim laakin waxay noqoto ba dadka ayaa xaq u leeh inay ayahooda ka tashadaan ta ma didin, Waxan diiday uun xuduudahan iyo Magaca Somaliland oo wax xun lugu sheegayo oo shaydaan so alifay, Inago wada og magaca Somalia iyo xuduudaha Somalia ba isticmaar ba sameyey ileen gaaladu ma kala wanaagsane eh. Ta xigta Somaliland Somaliweyn ma diidin , Somalia maha Somaliweyn, marka markad leedihid Somaliland waxay diiday inay Somaliweyn wax la qebsato Somalia adigu ma Somaliweyn baad u taqana . maanta haday NFD somali galbeed Djibouti oo dhinac ah oo dal qudh ah haday ahaan lahayd. waxad odhan kari lahayd Somaliland waxay diiday Somaliweyn , laakin Somaliland waxay diiday Somalia eeh ma didin Somaliweyn. Midowgi Somalia ay la gashay bay diiday eeh ma didin Somaliweyn. ileen Somalia maha Somaliweyn. Khatumo na waan tageersanahay waxay isla jecelyihin waan la jecelahay.

Apophis;906366 wrote: Then do the girl a favour and teach her how to speak properly Apophis what kind of OG are you ? ma reer wamood?

Maybe you didnt know but there was no somalia in 1991 no govt nothing i still think it was the best thing to do 199w to declare independence YugoslavIa was a geopolitical issue eas versus west , no one really cared about somalia in 199w if they stayed together or not somaliland is not kurdistan that is being held hostage by a nato power. I think in África somaliland has the best case it just needs a political solution The sudansouth sudan conflict was different s south accepted to be part of sudan for a few years followed by a referendum The case of sudan is different than somaliland now the ic want sl and somalia to talk. Lets see how that goes

Djiboutis 3rd port will not be finishjed any time soon ethiopia is also involved in the lamu project ethiopia needs more than one or to ports populaton is increasing. Lol@as a neutral person foreign ministry is a hard position especially if ur a defacto state Somaliland will get there it just has to fight for their rights official freedom doesnt come easy

I think the minister is telling the truth on this one the brits havent a statement that their office in hargeysa comes under mogadisho The foreign office website still says that the british embassy in addis is still in full contact with the sl authorities Even if he wasnt he couldnt hide this and it would cause troubles in hargeysa. The opposition website would be on top of it and it would create tensions all over somaliland

I like the interviewer of HCTV the guy is a passionate Somalilander the questions he is asking were very much needed.

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'Liibaan';906214 wrote: Halganka Barakeesan ee Shacabka Soomaali Galbeed ugu jiraan inay Dhulkooda Xoreestaan waa muqadas, sidoo kale Shacabka KHaatumo State waa diideen in lagu khasbo magaca isticmaarka Iyo Mapka isticmaarka. Marna aqbalimayaan khasab iyo dagaal in lagu qabsado. Magac isticmaar dee maha argument aad wax ku diidaysaan ileen Somalia ba wa magac isticmaar Somaliland wa magac isticmaar , Somalidu markay ay ka xorobeen 1960 talyaani iyo ingriis waxay la baxeen jamhuuriyada Somalida. lama bixin Somalia ama Somaliland. Somaliland iyo Somalia waxa ay u tahay wax u gaar labada dal. Ama ba ha noqoto ta xuduuda xuduudu wa xuduudaha wa africa oo dhan wax u dhexeya ma jirto laakin siyaabo kale Somaliland waad ku didi karta arinta midnimada Somaliyeed iyo wax la mid ah iyo aad rabtiid Qaran Somaliyeed oo weyn ta waad odhan karta, laakin magac baan ku diidaya arin adag maha libaanow.

'Liibaan';906205 wrote: Dr. Cali Ciise Cabdi: "Magacyo Isticmaar bixiyey iyo calaamado ama Map Isticmaar laguma Khasbi karo Shacabka Khaatumo "{DHAGAYSI HABOON}. Dr. Cali Ciise Cabdi gudoomiyaha gudida sare ee fulinta Khaatumo State oo qaybgalay xuskii iyo dabaaldegii koobaad ee Jaaliyadda Khaatumo ee Alberta Canada ayaa ka hadlay amuuro badan. http://horufadhi.com/dr-ali-ciise-oo-hadlay/ Maybe the good Dr should know Magaca Somalia ba isticmaar baa bixiiyey mala wuxu u haysta inay reer taleex bixiyeen ta u sheega map isticmaar hadu diidayo Itoobiya hayadisa ma geyeen ileen dhul Somali bay haystaan eeh.

Oo i almost forgot in Djibouti you are first Djibouti citizen than ur from the Jesus Ethnic group since the Somali Ethnic group is the jesus Ethnic group they do things a bit different in Djibouti

PasserBy;906189 wrote: Hutu, I know she made the comment earlier on in an interview. But it is still relevant today. It shows the end is near for Osman's faction. Xaji Borat, Forget TPDM, Genfo 7 and the rest of riffraff. Ethiopian forces can penetrate deep inside Eritrea and take out shabia forces at will. These are some of shabia prisoners of war from a recent punishing incursion into Eritrea. Magnanimous that the Ethiopian government is, it sent them back to Eritrea. Those who didn't want to return were allowed to stay in Ethiopia . Isiyaas afewerki still celebrating the death of ur poppa Melez zenawi lol you could not face Eritrea you just lucky uncle sam is on ur side

In the pretext of the today's Somali politics its well noted the last struggle Somalis are fighting is the fight for national identity versus the tribal identity.In the Somali society the way we identify ourselves has lot to do how we interact. Just take the SOL political forum for example even addressing certain political subjects regarding another region is considered Taboo or a no go zone if you are not from that particular region. Since the civil war the focus on political culture in Somalia involves emphasizing the importance of the tribal identity. And this has found a political play ground in Somalia with the introduction of 4.5 and tribal federalism. Somali is now a mere ethnic group with semi sovereign states but its lost its national course.The constructions of a nation and the national being of a society is mostly deprived from what was lost since independence in 1960 Pan Somalism. Somalis have lost who they are, are they first ethnic Somalis or Somalia Nationals or perhaps their regional tribal homeland defines their identity. Consequently the Somalis in the O'gaden region have found a way to identify themselves with the ONLF a rebel group fighting for larger autonomy in Ethiopia up to secession. The rest of the population identify themselves as Somali Ethiopians , Somali as their ethnic origin and Ethiopian as the Nationality of the people.Somali society in Somalia and Somaliland are the least multicultural states in Africa and the subjective sense of tribal identity of the collective group is divisive it doesn't enrich the societies in Somalia but its a delimitation on the concept of people nationalism. On the other hand the Somali national identity with regards to the process of nation building has sunk a deep level. When you have Puntians who are first Puntians than nationals of Somalia its working on a reverse mode.The thing is Somalia was given the country name of an ethnic group the Somalis the bantus the banadiris do not share that common identity this also plays a role in describing what Somali nationhood actually is.The Somali culture and traditions are the most basic elements some would say is the drive behind Somali nationalism but what is the Somali culture exactly the language the poetry it doesn't add much to the Somali nationhood many are trying revive. For example in Somaliland you are first a Somalilander than you are from ur tribe sub sub clan and so on the national identity is Somaliland and the rest is about tribal lineages. So in Somaliland there is a gap between what kind of Somali they are and between their tribal origin. Furthermore their identity is most of the time just Somaliland. Maybe its rooted in a historic cultural principle since national identity was something brand new for us and we were only exposed to nationalism because the rest of Africa was doing the same. But are true nature of the tribal identity never faded away even in modern days.

Madaxweynaha hala daayo bil kasta kulaha war once a year or half a year. Let him do his job dadkan madaxweynaha ku dhegan do you think he can solve all problems wakhti siiyaa madaxweynaha.

^^ Ma ada qotida mad madow wadanka siiyey?

He is been worrying about the TPDM the or the Ginbot 7 the tplf is in big trouble i predict more rebels to take up arms in Ethiopia the next coming months.

Oo No we didn't know that , thanks for telling us

Wadani;905938 wrote: It may be inappropriate but it doesn't change the fact that these groups are genetically and linguistically related, however distant such relations may be. They were just grouped to each other most of these anthropological doctors from Europe haven't really studied these languages they just needed to clear and group these languages in boxes or order to understand the culture of these people no African ever grouped these languages as one. And genetics is a whole different debate some ethnics are closer to each other some are far apart from each other.

Ismahaan;905962 wrote: Haaji DNA gu been ma sheegto. Soomaalida, oromomada, North Africanta , east africanta intooda badan waa isku DNA. Anaa DNA iska qaaday oo aay ugu dheheeyn 2000 years ago maybe east africa ku abuurmeen dadkagu God knows how they figured out that. Markaan waaydiiyeey xagee baan ka imina imaay sheegin, ma ogaan karno baay ku leeyihiin. Laakiin shaki la aan dadkaan East Africa dagaa waa isku mid . They are relatively homogeneous (80%).E1b1b1- Typical of people from Near East, North Africa, East Africa. Do your research. There are different haplogroups E1B1C E1b1C Thomas Jefferson carries the same haplogroup it means nothing to be honest but we were talking about language language is different than genetics.

Raamsade;905927 wrote: Oba, is that the numbers in Af Maay? Cushitic and the biblical Cush have nothing to do with each other. The former is just a name chosen, inappropriately perhaps, for a group of related languages. Its directed from the Biblical Kush its inappropriate u said it ur self.

The question we should ask our selves why are we calling these people Cushetic what does King Kush have to do with the NFD region Ethiopia Eritrea Somalia Djibouti Somaliland, Did King kush speak the language of the Amharas or Tigrayans or even Geez or oromo Did King Kush speak Somali. These groupings were created by the European anthropologists thats Ameenas point and she is correct.