oba hiloowlow;907972 wrote: will Garoowe be a city for all somalis to claim markaa? Why not

Beesha Unuka weyne waxa ka lacag badan the Pirate Puntians oo bada isbaaro dhigtay ,, garowe hada caasimada laga dhigo garowe wanu dhisayana adigu shirkadaha dhismahayasa meesha geyn kara oo shaqo abuuri kara. Eeg garowe hada wa tuulo hada caasimad laga dhigo. Beesha unuka weyne wa happy. Puntianskuna wa happy. Somaliland na wa happy Kenya na wa happy cid walba wa happy

Somaliland: ‘East Africa’s Red Sea Corridor – Could it become a Major Energy Hub? Sunday, 13 January 2013 16:28 In light of its geographical position, long coastline and deep sea ports, Somaliland is strategically positioned to be one of East Africa's major energy supply bases and play a key role in the regions energy future. By: Jieun Wrigley DUBAI (Somalilandsun) - Africa is increasingly becoming a Energy Minister Eng Husein delivering his key note speechmajor player in the world oil & gas game. Its proven oil reserves topped 132 Billion barrels in 2011 and are 9% of world reserves. Oil production stood last year at 8.8BBOD (10%) of world production. Current proven gas reserves are nearly 14.5 TCM (7% of world reserves) and gas production is up to 202 BCMD (6.17%). These reserves and production numbers is currently dominated by West and North African countries, but that is all about to change once recent oil & gas discoveries in East Africa such as in Mozambique, Uganda, Madagascar and recently Kenya come online. Recent world class oil & gas discoveries in East Africa have triggered a renewed interest in E&P companies to flock to the region to participate in its hydrocarbon riches. These discoveries are just the tip of the iceberg since huge swaths of East Africa's basins are still frontier areas that are just starting to open up and have seen little or no exploration. Many potential areas in the region have yet to see the drill bit. The Horn of Africa region in particular with major discoveries all around it have been ignored by in large until now and have yet to be explored. However, exploration activities in my home country, Somaliland, are beginning to pick up. License holders such as Genel Energy and Ophir energy are set to embark on a major exploration program this year and the following ones that could add up to the burgeoning oil & gas discoveries in the East African region in the not too distant future. Other E&P companies are actively pursuing new licenses in Somaliland as well and are in talks with us. Given its huge potential, the East African region has the capacity to become the new Middle East and some of this massive hydrocarbon potential once discovered and produced has to come to shore to ship to world markets. This will require huge investments in infrastructure such as pipelines, LNG trains, processing plants and shipping terminals. The next two decades will see major foreign investment inflows to develop the region's hydrocarbon assets. This investment in infrastructure is necessary if East Africa is to realize the full commercial and economic advantages of its new found hydrocarbon wealth. Building such an oil & gas infrastructure will require close cooperation and collaboration between the region's landlocked and coastal countries. New bilateral deals have to be struck between these countries to create new energy corridors in the region. Besides its high probability for oil & gas deposits, East Africa's Red Sea coast sits across one of the world's busiest maritime lanes that connect the Suez Canal and the massive Asian shipping routes. Nearly 21,000 vessels pass thru the Gulf of Aden (formally called the gulf of Berbera, named after the Port of Berbera in Somaliland). Countries with deep sea ports and long coastlines in the region such as Somaliland are ideally located to serve as an energy portal and supply bases for neighboring landlocked countries in East and Central Africa to receive, process, store and ship all that oil & gas. In addition to hydrocarbon energy, countries in the region such Ethiopia have also massive hydroelectric capacity. Ethiopia alone has the capacity for hydropower development of nearly 45,000 MW. There is also a massive untapped geothermal potential in East Africa in the Great East African Rift system countries that has the potential to generate 2,500 MW of geothermal energy. This combined energy potential of the region is only 250 km across the Gulf of Aden from the Middle East where subsea pipelines and cables can connect to Asia as part of a great Middle East/ East Africa energy network. In light of its geographical position, long coastline and deep sea ports, Somaliland is strategically positioned to be one of East Africa's major energy supply bases and play a key role in the regions energy future. Jieun Wrigley Reporter.

I am now hearing rumors that talks will be held in Kenya early february

Somaliland oo shuruud ku xirtay sii socoshada Wadahadallada Xal-doonka ah ee ay kula jirto Dowladd Soomaaliya Axad, Jannaayo 13, 2013 (HOL) — Somaliland ayaa sheegtay inay ka qayb-geli doonto wajiga labaad ee wadahadallada u dhexeeya iyada iyo dowladda Soomaaliya, balse waxay ka digtay in lagu soo daro xubno matalaya Soomaaliya mas’uuliyiin kasoo jeeda Somaliland. Wasiirka arrimaha dibadda ee Somaliland, Maxamed Cabdullaahi Cumar oo ka hadlay wadahadlalada furmi doonaan ayaa sheegay inay dhankooda aad u soo dhaweynayaan, balse aysan ogolaan doonin in lagu soo daro xubno kasoo jeeda maamulkooda oo ka socda dowladda Soomaaliya. “Ma ogolaan doonno in wadahadallada ay kasoo qaybgalaan xubno kasoo jeeda dhankeenna oo matalaya Soomaaliya. Waxayna Wadahadalladan daba-joogaan wadahadalladii ka dhacay London iyo Dubai sannadkii hore,” ayuu yiri Cumar. Dowladdii KMG ahayd ee Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ayaa sannadkii hore bartamihiisa waxay wadahadalladii ugu horreeyay muddo labaatan sano ka badan uga furmeen magaalada London, iyadoo madaxweyne Siilaanyo iyo madaxweynihii hore, Sheekh Shariif ay iyaguna isku arkeen magaalada Dubai ee dalka Imaaraadka Carabta iyagoo ku baaqay inay wadahadalladu sii socdaan. Wasiirka arrimaha dibadda ee Somaliland ayaa wuxuu hadalkiisan kusoo beegmay xilli ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya, Cabdi Faarax Shirdoon uu isna shaaca ka qaaday inay dib u billaaban doonaan wadahadlaldii u dhexeeyay dowladda Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland. “Rajo weyn ayaan ka qabaa inay wadahadalladaas kasoo bixi doonaan natiijooyinka wanaagsan,” ayuu yiri ra’iisul wasaare Saacid oo intaas ku daray in dhankooda ay diyaar u yihiin inay la hadlaan walaalahooda Somailland. Lama oga go’aanka ay dowladda Soomaaliya ka qaadanayso shuruudda ay ku xirtay Somaliland wajiga labaad ee wadahadallada u dhexeeya Somalia iyo Somaliland, iyadoo la ogyahay in wasiiradda arrimaha dibadda Somaila,Fowziyo Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan ay kasoo jeeddo Somaliland. Somaliland ayaa waxay ku dhawaaqday inay Soomaaliya inteeda kale ka go’day sannadkii 1992-kii, iyadoo tan iyo xiligaas dadaal ugu jirtay in loo aqoonsado dowlad ka madaxbannaan Soomaaliya, balse taasi ma hirgelin.

Alpha Blondy;907950 wrote: why not construction a new city? abuja (nigera), astana (kazakhstan) naypyidaw (myanmar known in the west as burma) are ALL new. Adeer waxa lacag looma hayo, meesha ma Somaliland baad mooday

Why not change the capital to Garowe than the Unukas will be happy the puntians will be happy problem solved.

If they could resist the Romans than they would atleast resist the Muslims to Sasanid Empire wasn't an ancient old Empire they fought here and there the Romans and stood their ground but were able to regroup and than there was a gap of peace between the 2 empires. So its hard to believe that they were just rotten from with in and just overpowered by the Muslims that easily.Also in north Africa its well noted that the north African tribes fought against the Muslim conquerors some were Christians it wasn't as easy as you described.

Thats what modern historians say that the Byzantine empire were weakened the same with the sasanid of the Persians but its not entirely true we could say that with out islam the sasanid Empire would have still ruled in much of their territories. Later the Rashidun and Umayad conquered north Africa which was not Arabland. Much of the Arab territory was under prophet Muhammad the rashidun and umayad did the expansion.

The mongols were better organized than their opponents for instance in the battle of ain jalut the Mongols were better prepared had a larger aarmy and were assisted by georgiens. When they were battling the Mamluuks. The mongols though their legacy was just little more than a century nevertheless they were brilliant. Even though they later converted to islam but nothing was as remarkable as the early Muslim conquerors Later the ottoman Empire continued the Muslim conquest by the legendary Osman the First.

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Wiil Cusub;907733 wrote: She must standing for world Beauty contest, than women in military. what an eyes! Wa sarkaalad:D

Safferz;907884 wrote: I didn't say clan (as a form of kinship and social organization) didn't exist prior to colonialism, of course it did. I said tribalism and politicized clan identity is a modern phenomenon. Well ofcourse 4.5 clan formula didn't exist but the clan identity was pretty much alive there was no such thing as a Somali identity not in the form of a statehood nor in the form of an Ethnic group. Ethnic Somali nationalism became relevant during colonialism especially in the last years of British Italian French colonialism.

Another decisive battle was the battle of yarmouk in Syria its said in islam that prophet Muhammad csw prophesied that the Muslim Empires would defeat the eastern roman empire the byzantine empire. The battle of yarmouk led by the legendary Omar ibn khatab ibn nufayl and his first commander Khalid ibn Walid. Same story the eastern roman empire outnumbered the Muslim forces but the Muslim Empire defeated the Byzantine its still regarded as the most significant historic defeat done to a great Empire that outnumbered its enemy.

Haatu;907880 wrote: Jamhuuriyadda Soomaaliyeed actually. It means Somali Republic. Wa runta Mudane haatu Jamhuuriyada Somaliyeed

Carafaat;907878 wrote: And for Somaliland? جمهورية أرض الصومال اَلهَاشِمِيَّة الأفريقي Al jamhuuriyutal Ardu Al Somaal wal ifriqil Hashimiya. The afro hashimite republic.

Jamhuuriyada Somalida Thats the correct term

Haatu;907867 wrote: ^Not really. I can be born in Gsa and still get a Somali passport. Are you sure thats possible with the new constitution so what will define you're Somaliness what if a Kikiyo speaks Somali and has Somali features.

During prophet Muhamads life time the Muslim Empire was from Saudi Arabia all the way Yemen Oman and modern UAE The struggle continued after Prophet Muhammads death csw by the rashidun Empire. So the Question how did the Muslims leaders do it what was their secret that they only needed 30 years time the rashidun expanded into northern turkey Iran iraq Egypt. Defeating the byzantine Empire and the sasanid Empire of persia. The most remarkable event in history was the defeat of the Sasanid Empire of Persia by the Rashidun empire, the battle of Qaddasiyyah was decisive the fall of modern iraq the Muslims armies were led by Saacid ibn abu waqaas he is one of the 10 people promised paradise. Modern historians describe the fall of the sasanid Empire as a one that was plagued by internal quarrels between the Persian leadership. Allthough the army of the Persians was twice the size of the Muslims so how were they able to defeat such an army of that strength its a question many ask themselves in modern day.

They have no other home Mogadishu is their home now, they came around the same time if not earlier than the Puntlanders

They came during the early days of the colonial era they have been in Mogadishu for more than a century now they are Somalisized.

^^ But all unuka can claim Mogadishu right even those from jawhar and ceeldheer:D

So let me get this straight people oppose the french but are happy with the Ethiopians Kenyans ugandans and American drone strikes. War naga dayaa dee ama shabaab aynu wada noqono ama walaalaheen fransiisku ha furtaan ninkooda.

QansaxMeygaag;907777 wrote: Ethnic Xaaji, which in the case of Somalia overlaps a great deal with the national. Don't ask me to quantify "a great deal", short of up-to-date population figures, I am talking qualitatively here. I am aware that the two have been conflated and as a result great injustice done to those who are Somali by nationality/citizenship (not ethnicity) as a result of this conflation e.g. for lack of better words, Somali "Bantu" and other non-ethnic groups... Perhaps the oxymoron "Somalian" to distinguish citizenship from ethnicity is not that bad a term afterall? Yeah the 2 can be confused sometime because in the past you had to be just an Ethnic Somali to be a Somali national today's with Djiboutis independence and Somaliland defacto independence. And the O'gaden region being part of Ethiopia , the Somalia national identity is confined between raskambooni raas caseer Somalia.

Safferz;907771 wrote: Well said. It's also troubling to see the belief that clan (as it is understood today) has been a timeless feature of Somali society, when it's quite clear that historically we've seen a transformation from fluid kinship networks to politicized tribe/tribalism, beginning in the colonial era and crystallized under the post-independence governments. Tribalism is MODERN. To speak to the OP's point, I think one can argue that clan identity only became preeminent after the Civil War -- with the collapse of the dictatorship (one that actively exploited clan difference despite presenting itself as nationalist, I should add) and in turn the philosophical principle of citizen and nation, everyday Somalis sought refuge in the most basic political unit in Somali society, the clan. It also existed prior to colonialism Maakhir sultanate Maguartania sultanate A.Juraan Sultanate The House of Guled sultanate