Those are not my words:D But if you mix blood some things can turn out different not how we expected But they are fierce gabadho koley geesiyad bay ahayd if she mothered the largest clans in Somaliland and in the hawd Just in the forum you should check it out Africaown Salax oodweyne Lander the late Adan jugle fallen soldier. These people come in their purest form even though slaantasi ayey u tahay.

Che by the way Mixed Kids are the most Qabiliste the lady of the branch that mothered one of the largest clans are the most troubled habrs there is not a clan they haven't waged war against

lol no just one subclan of the larger clan married a lady from the his other son married the daughter of Yusuf al kaynun Al baqdadi and she mothered the ancestor of faisal cali waraabe. By the way i am not one of the lol

Apophis hypothetically speaking if the TPLF miraculously collapsed tomorrow and are forced to sign of the O'gaden region free and independent. Do you support the independence of the regions that are inhabited by the Ethnic Somalilanders to join Somaliland if they wish and those in Shinile are allowed to Join Djibouti. Or do you want to keep the O'gaden region intact and indivisible?

Che -Guevara;908153 wrote: ^You are way off. Isn't the reer Abti to one of Yeah but there are smaller once living in Puntland the Abdi and also others who almost became extinct during Axmed Guray wars kuwaasad ka so hadhay

Apophis;908129 wrote: I'm sure The Socialist government laughed in similar way but now we know that laugh was one of arrogance. Jubba is nearly complete and Khaatumo is also nearly there and they will, undoubtably, support each other. So keep smiling ya Xaaji, every man has his day Btw XX, if Somalia was to agree to Somaliland's succession, would you also accept the succession of the regions which wish to leave Somaliland?? Nagadaa de Apophis Jubbaland horta haka so dhamaadaan Axmed madoobe ma doorana mise Wadaadki kale eh azania watay ma doorana qoladi Gedo na wa ku sugaysa. And than you have hassan sheikh to deal with , ma lugu qaatay to support Somaliland iyada wax ku tari karte eh . You support Somaliland independence recognition to join the UN and Somaliland will support Jubbaland to be free from Kenya and free from HAG influence it will be owned by Azanians till eternity i will help you re establish the kingdom of ugaaas nuur cabudhiye in Kismayo. its a win win let the khatumites continue their party lilalow beerkay ada kuweyn. it will be like old days Abdiraxmaan tuur and Jees Union this time we will party in Kismayo and you are also welcome in Hargeysa seylac burco berbera ceerigaabo borama you name it all of Somaliland is you're friend. As for you're last question only if Hargeysay Yaray can be part of Somaliland

Malika;908134 wrote: ^Xaji wont sleep tonight - you will see tomorrow a thread dedicated to the 'ills' of Jubba..lol I missed the party yesterday - am sure it was a blast! viva Khatumo! Malika i like you Noolow adeer

Che sorry MM but i think you are one of the the smaller

Che -Guevara;908144 wrote: ^I will say again, venture out of your little corner and see the world. What clan do you think I am from? I was never a village person i am a world Person Che waxanay dadka ugu neceb tuulooyinkaas. I think you are one of the clans from region but not the big clans. i dont think you're qabil is important. Sidaadaasad ku fiicantahay.

i disagree the transition period ended in Somalia the government runs Mogadishu and has Puntland and galmudug as it allies it can unite the country alshabaab is on the run. Somalia finally has a government that represent the people of Somalia the secessionist in hargeysa have no excuses to say they have no one to talk to. I see it as a solution for both Somalia and Somaliland if Somaliland rushed to xamar in 1960 let Xamar rush to Somaliland in 2013. why not lets safe the Somalis.

Che -Guevara;908142 wrote: ^There are no exceptions and you don't know my tribe Xaaji. We have intermarried with them and fought them for centuries. Yeah but you are not from the Puntland clans thus you're case is a special case

Back to the talks the status is quo is not good Somaliland not recognized Somalia not stable and its sovereignty being violated by foreign troops including France. Somaliland non recognition status gives Ethiopia the upper hand to influence Hargeysa and even Mogadishu because of its fragile situation. Ethiopia Kenya are happy with the status quo but its not good for SL and Somalia. lets talk either unite or separate but the status quo needs to end.If we continue this path both Somaliland and Somalia are screwed.

Che ofcourse there are exceptions:D and you are not really from the Puntland clans:D

People think that the interaction and the same political culture and National identity the people had adopted was because of colonial Britain but even before that there was a time some where in the 1800s. When some subclans of the garaad clan were allied to one of the habars and the other section of the garaad clan was allied to another habar. And they used to raid each other some times they would raid together the reer hawd and the other group would retaliate and raid the nugaal clans. And that's how it was during that time there was zero cultural interaction with the Puntland clans.

Che they are classified Q@ldaans the people in Somaliland might not agree on the political situations in SL and Somalia and how things are going laakin waxa la isku haya iyaguna wa ogyihin ilaah na wa ogyahay. Just one simple example the union they had with Puntland just didn't work out because they never ever shared a common goal aspirations and their interactions with the Puntlanders was minimum.whether it was marriage sharing values traditions or ethics. Thats why a portion of them joined Somaliland and the other portion joined Khatumo.

Shaadhka mar mar ba la xidha marka albabaada HAG la garacayo odayaal quruumo hore dhintay banu so toosina weydi carafaat isaga ku fiican waxyalaas:D

Che the talks are not useless if we dont talk there will never be a solution Somaliland and Somalia wa inay wuxun ku heshiyaan midnimo ama laba dawladood. Laakin hadanay wada hadlin way si kala fogaan uun.

Che Guevara ofcourse anigu Taleexi waan u abtirin kara isaga iyo abihi ila awoowgi Shirhoore ma cid kale sidan isaga u aqaano u taqana xageenan uga xigin dadka kale.

Ka waran hadaynu isku darsano ileen dadka inaga isku xigne eh oo marka kheyrku halka ka unkamo haday khatumo iyo HAG heshin karan maxa u diidaya inay hargeysa iyo khatumo heshiyaan. Ileen inaga ba isku asaliyad ka so jeedna eh.

Apophis;908106 wrote: In due course I can see and hope Jubbaland supports Khaatumo. I think it's feasible. lol You need to establish jubbaland before it can support another state:D and how will you smuggle weapons to khatumo not through Puntland not through Ethiopia? Right now Khatumo should support Jubbaland ileen iyaada ba jirta eh

Abtiga ka duceyso oo igu daba tuko.

Taleexi wayahay igu dabe tukko isku xassanaad baynu urursanaynaye waliga waan oga inaynu isku dhiig leenahay

Taleexi dadku ha wada nafisan xita khatumo ha nafisan beryaha maydan neefsan eh:D

Imtiaxaanki qalinkaan ku ansixiyey.

True carafaat status is quo is not good Somaliland not recognized Somalia not stable and its sovereignty being violated by foreign troops including France. Somaliland non recognition status gives Ethiopia the upper hand to influence Hargeysa and even Mogadishu because of its fragile situation. Ethiopia Kenya are happy with the status quo but its not good for SL and Somalia. lets talk either unite or separate but the status quo needs to end.