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khatumo versus the SNM wear wolves

Seems the author is trying to convince him self rather than Somalilanders:D

Che -Guevara;910234 wrote: Nagadaa Xaaji, this 'new generation' thinks Somalis have hooves for feet and horns on their head lool :D:D

We should ask our selves is there Something Somalis actually agree on, i can think only religion excluding the few Christians and atheists. All the other things Somalis don't agree on. Like every one talks about Somalinimo but we don't have a clear definition what Somalinimo is yet every one talks about it? For Some it means a country or the unity of the Somali inhabited areas in the Horn for others its just about social interaction of Somalis in a positive way

Ethiopia: British MP Denies UK funding the Notorious Liyuu Police Force Saturday, 19 January 2013 21:09 Somalilandsun - British MP responds to Guardian Report accusing the government of funding the Liyuu police force as misleading. Lynne Featherstone MP said " Not a penny of British money will go to the Liyuu force. We take human rights extremely seriously and recognise that reform of the special police is critical for achieving a safe and secure Somali region. That's why we are discussing with UN partners how we might work together to improve the police's human rights record. This is something that Human Rights Watch has called for. The Peace and Development programme as a whole will help over 300,000 people get access to safe, clean water, give thousands of young people an education and help 700,000 people get a job and earn an income. This is in addition to the hundreds of thousands of people who will receive better access to justice and security. The Somali region of Ethiopia is one of the most deprived areas in the country. This programme is intended to create the conditions they need to lift themselves out of poverty. " Lynne Featherstone MP is the International development minister

Those who maintain domination over the global economy need an opponent a healthy opponent so that things can be a balance. Never said the world is perfect but its up to the human race to make mother earth a better place we are the predecessors of our grand children and their children.

I don't really care much about liberal media they cant influence me how i view people. I value humans for what they are and because of their achievements black white yellow Latino Mulatow Indian Europeans Ethnic Somalilanders and the rest of Africa. Not all people have fake superiority complex Like Oba who thinks he is better than Sub saharan Bantu people when they have better economies better thriving nations better infrastructure. No my friend the world doesn't work like that i believe in justice in the constitution of the United states and when i see injustice i point that out but there is always a but i believe people should fight for their rights.

When the Lamu project is finalized in kenya south sudan will use Kenya's largest port in East Africa and it will totally ignore Khartoum and Israeli engineers will build a pipeline from Juba to Kenya

Sudan, South Sudan border talks get nowhere, delay oil exports KHARTOUM/JUBA | Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:16pm EST (Reuters) - Sudan and South Sudan on Saturday failed to agree on how to withdraw armies from their disputed border after a round of talks in Ethiopia, delaying again the resumption of crucial oil exports. The African neighbors came close to war in April in the worst border clashes since South Sudan seceded from Sudan in 2011 under a 2005 deal which ended decades of civil war. After mediation from the African Union, both countries agreed in September to set up a demilitarized buffer zone and resume oil exports from landlocked South Sudan through Sudan. Oil is vital to both economies. But neither side withdrew its army from the 2,000-km (1,200-mile) border due to mistrust left from one of Africa's longest civil wars. To end the stalemate the AU brought together Sudan's President Omar Hassan al-Bashir and South Sudan's Salva Kiir two weeks ago in Ethiopia. But after a week of talks in Addis Ababa to discuss how to set up the buffer zone, as agreed by the presidents, both sides accused each other of making new demands. "We were facing difficulties during the talks in Addis Ababa because of the changing position of South Sudan which keeps altering every time we reach an agreement," Sudan's defense minister Abdel-Rahim Mohammed Hussein told reporters after his return at Khartoum airport. Talks would be postponed until February 13, he said. Hussein said South Sudan made new demands for demilitarization of a disputed border area called Mile-14 and had not given up support for rebels fighting Sudan's government. Khartoum accuses Juba of backing Sudan People's Liberation Movement-North (SPLM-North) rebels in South Kordofan and Blue Nile, two Sudan states bordering the South. Juba denies this. The SPLM-North, made up of fighters who sided with the South during the civil war, controls part of the Sudan side of the border, which complicates setting up the buffer zone. South Sudan accused Sudan of refusing to withdraw its forces from the border and making new demands regarding "Mile-14". "The Republic of South Sudan also agreed to resume oil production immediately ... (but) Sudan has refused to accept the oil for processing and transporting in Sudan," until the buffer zone was fully operational, South Sudan said in a statement. MORE DELAYS South Sudan, which says Sudan often bombs its territory, shut down its entire oil output of 350,000 barrels per day (bpd) a year ago after failing to agree export and transit fees with Khartoum. It had hoped to be producing 230,000 bpd by December. Crude from southern fields will take two months to reach the Red Sea terminal on Sudan's coast after output resumes, South Sudan said this month, suggesting exports are unlikely to hit markets until April or even May after the latest delay. The AU had planned to publish last week a timetable for setting up the buffer zone. But in a statement on Saturday it only said both sides had made "substantial progress" and would hold further talks regarding the buffer zone and "the key issue on when oil exports could resume and under what circumstances." It did not say when talks would resume. Apart from oil and the buffer zone, the two countries must also agree on ownership of Abyei and other disputed areas. On Thursday, Juba had raised hope of an understanding when it said it had started withdrawing its army from the border. But it was unclear whether Juba had actually begun pulling out its forces because its military spokesman Philip Aguer told Reuters the army was still awaiting orders to do so.

Its still wrong you cannot hate people based on the color of their skin and their physical appearance

Racism is never good every one is equal in the eyes of Allah

Assad's overthrow "red line" for Iran: supreme leader's aide Reuters – 22 mins ago Reuters/Reuters - Syria's President Bashar al-Assad answers journalists after a meeting at the Elysee Palace in Paris, December 9, 2010. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier DUBAI (Reuters) - A senior aide to Iran's supreme leader warned against the overthrow of Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, saying his fate was a "red line", in one of the Islamic state's strongest messages of support for the Damascus government. Iran has steadfastly backed Assad's rule since an uprising against his rule began almost two years ago and regards him as an important part of the axis of opposition against arch-foe Israel. "If the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is toppled, the line of resistance in the face of Israel will be broken," Ali Akbar Velayati, who is seen as a potential contender in Iran's June presidential election, said in an interview broadcast on Sunday. "We believe that there should be reforms emanating from the will of the Syrian people, but without resorting to violence and obtaining assistance from the (United States of) America," he told Lebanon's Al-Mayadeen satellite television. Asked if Iran sees Assad as a red line, Velayati said: "Yes, it is so. But this does not mean that we ignore the Syrian people's right in choose its own rulers." More than 60,000 people have died in the uprising against Assad, part of the Arab Spring protests that have swept aside four heads of state since 2011. Iran, a regional Shi'ite Muslim power which backs Lebanon's Hezbollah group, describes many Syrian opposition groups as "terrorists" who are backed by Western and Arab states. Assad follows an offshoot of Shi'ite Islam. Velayati blamed what he called "reactionary" Arab states for the violence in Syria and singled out Qatar, accusing it of bringing in fighters from Somalia and Afghanistan to help topple Assad. Velayati said all parties linked to the crisis in Syria needed to negotiate. "Anyone who comes to the talks cannot negotiate on the table and support the armed elements, but must enter the negotiations and stop supporting the armed elements," he added. The Islamic Republic has sought international backing for its six-point plan to resolve the Syrian conflict. The plan calls for an immediate end to violence and negotiations between all parties to form a transitional government, but does not call for Assad to step down. (Reporting by Sami Aboudi; Editing by Andrew Heavens)

The thing is the old generation of sl they lived worked with somalia interact for 30 years The new new generation had zero social interaction with the people of somalia keep in mind they dont live in the west like most of us where people are neighbors. All they know about somalia is that they live in somalia and there was big war between sl and somalia. They dont how how the koonfurians act work if they are nice or not All they know is that somalia has anti somaliland senitment

I agree with rahima but i add the trust died in 1961 norf point would have made sense in the early 90s Now the people of sl have seen it all i dont think nor the govt of sl can make such a turn point nor do they have the mandate. Somaliland was done wrong once which was making a union with somalia. Do it again the people of sl are screwed for life. Its not that there is an anit somalia sentiment but they just mean somethings are better to be forgotten. You will be dealing with a whole new generation who view somalia as a country that hindered somaliland right to exist. The old generation is different the new generation are the one that cant relate to somalia

I never call people inadeer not even my dead first cousins Waxan la yaabay uun ninkan masaai sita eeh kulmiye ka sheekenyaa

Hey masaai guy are u really a kenyan or a somali

Wasiirkii Hore Ee Maaliyada Cawil Oo Ka Hadlay Saamaynta Somaliland Ee Aqoonsiga Maraykanka Ee Somaliya Jan 19, 2013 Hargeysa(Cadceed)-Wasiirkii maaliyada ee xukuumadii hore Ambassador Xuseen Cali Ducaale (Cawil), ayaa ka hadlay sida uu u arko aqoonsiga ay dawladda Maraykanku u fidisay dawladda Somaliya iyo weliba saamaynta ay ku yeelan karto Somaliland iyo qadiyadeeda. Dawladda Maraykanka ayaa khamiistii si rasmi ah ugu dhawaaqday inay aqoonsatay dawladda Somaliya, ka dib 21 sannadood, waxaanay dad badan oo reer Somaliland ahi isweydiiyeen saamaynta uu aqoonsigaasi ku yeelan karo qaddiyadda madaxbanaanida Somaliland. Haddaba Md. Cawil, oo uu Wargeyska Geeska Afrika, shalay wax ka weydiiyay sida uu u arko aqoonsigaas iyo isbedelka uu ku keeni karo siyaasadii Maraykanka ee Somaliland, wuxuu sheegay inaanu aqoonsigaasi dhibaato ku keeni karin Somaliland, waxase uu ku taliyay in si mug leh loogu diyaar garoobo wada hadalka Somaliland iyo Somaliya oo sannadkan galaya wejigii labaad. Ugu horayn Cawil, oo ka jawaabaya sida uu u arko aqoonsigaas Maraykanka ee Somaliya, wuxuu yidhi “Horta icriaafka Maraykan ee Somaliya wax cusub maaha. Markii Sheekh Shariif la doortay waa tii uu kula kulmay Nayrobi Ms. Hillary Clinton, taasiba ictiraaf ayay iska ahayd, markaas ku dhawaaqistani waa iska magac oo mar hore ayay ictiraafsanayaanee. “ Isagoo ka hadlaya dhawaaqa Maraykanku ku sheegay inuu meesha ka saari doono siyaasadii uu kula macaamili jiray Somaliland iyo Somaliya ee loo yaqaano Dual track policy, wuxuu Cawil yidhi “Tan dual track policy-gana waxaan anigu u qabay inay Koonfur ku salaysnayd oo ay u badnayd, waayo wasiirul maaliya ayaan ahaa oo wax Maraykan ina siin jiray ma jirin, sirdoonka Somaliland xidhiidh ayuu la lahaa, isna waxba kamuu helin jirin, markaas siyaasadaasi mid inaga ina soo gaadhayba may ahayn.” Mar la weydiyay saamaynta uu ictiraafkaas Maraykanka ee dawladda Somaliya ku yeelan karo Somaliland, wuxuu yidhi “Inaga qadiyadeenu mid qarsoon maaha, waa mid culus oo 20 sanno taagnayd, taariikhdeenana la ogyahay. Adduunku wuu aqbalay inaynu wada hadalno, markii Ereteriya iyo Itoobiya wada hadlayeen 1991-kii; Maraykanku markiiba wuu ictiraafsanaa Itoobiya, waxaana socday wada hadaladii Ereteriya ay la lahayd Itoobiya, markay is afgarteen awaxba kamuu bedelin ee wuu ku taageeray.” Cawil, wuxuu tallo ku soo jeediyay in si culus loogu diyaar garoobo wada hadalka la filayo inuu dib u furmo bisha May ee sannadkan, kaas oo dhex mari doona Somaliland iyo Somaliya, “Inaga waxa weeye wada hadalkaas aynu la galayno inaynu si mug leh oo miisaan leh u wada hadalno oo walaaladeen wax badan way ogyihiinee ku qancino inaanay jirin wax kaga lumaayaa laba dawladood, waa inaynu wada hadaladaas inagu u diyaar garowno adduun weynahana la socodsiino oo aynu ku casuuno dawladaha dhexda inoo ah, wax kale oo inoo yaalaa ma jirto, dawladaas Somaliya laga dhisay haddii Maraykan ictiraaf iyo haddii kaleba inooma taalo, waxa inoo taala qaddiyadeena inaynu ku qaicino walaaladeen. Ta inoo taalaa waa aynu u diyaar garowno wada hadaladaas.” Cawil, ugu dambayn wuxuu sheegay inuu Maraykanku mar walba diiradda ku hayay Somaliya oo uu u arkayay meel hoy u ah argagixisada, taas darteedna uu wakhtigana doonayo inuu aqoonsigaas ku dhiirigeliyo dawladda Somaliya ee wakhtigan. “Anigu waxaan qabaa mar walba mawqifkii ay Somaliland ka qabeen way ogaayeen nabadda iyo dawladnimada iyo doorashooyinkeena, mar walba iyagu Somaliyadaas ay ka baqayaan in argagixisadu ay saldhig ka dhigato oo mar walba waxay qabeen in Somaliland aanay khatarni kaga iman karin, laakiin koonfur ayay ka baqayeen, dawladaha adduunkuna meelaha ay ka baqayaan ayay inta badan culayska saaraan, markaas waa taas tay mar walba u danaynayeen Somaliya, qodobka uu aqoonsiga ugu dhawaaqayna waxa weeye dhiirigelin, waa wax gaar ah oo la xidhiidha xaasaasiyada uu ka qabo argagixisadaas.”

Hmm interesting he said something completly different than Dr Bidaar SL foreign minister

What did he say cant listen to that?

Doctor but still Somalia will basically survive and wont lose a big territory its not desperate in need of Somaliland in order to continue as a strong state. I also do not agree with you're assessment that Puntland has secessionist tendencies they never did they are more concerned about their federalism and to gain seats in the govt in Mogadishu. Doctor Puntlanders are very ambitious by nature and want always to be the leaders, so PL secession is meaningless. What about the gains though Somalia will have less people to share resources with it will have less dissatisfied citizens because unity with Somalia is like a prison for Somalilanders. I think the vast majority of Somalia's resources are in the south basically Somalia will not lose oil fields and fertile land like Sudan did. I have always said the Somaliand and Somalia case is the easiest to solve in Africa if we ignore the emotions on both sides. Its been 22 years now its either come to a solution or well the statusquo we are independent and we will not rest till we have a homeland for our people. And Mogadishu will say no you cannot leave and you will have action reaction. And before you know it the people in both SL and Somalia will be exhausted and have ill feeling towards each other why go that route. No one has a real solution i suggest to dissolve the union officially and set up an agreement economic integration movement of people and in the year 2113 re negotiate a confederacy system i think that can bring a solution to both Somaliland and Somalia.

I never disliked Somalia and Somalis you do know Somalis dont live only in Xamar i am even planning to visit there soon inshallah. When are u visiting hargeysa Aaliyah:D Aaliyah why did you ignore all the other points i raised.

Next president of Somaliland lol He is a bit over exaggerating but its for sure triumph for Mogadishu I don't think there is less communication with other countries though there are even doors opening in the UAE and others. But ofcourse the effect the governmental recognition Somalia got will have will have effect. When dealing with Washington. We all know Washingtons stance on Somaliland do it through the African union. And the dual track was introduced in 2011 and i dont think SL gained allot with the dual track. Because it wasn't leading towards recognition but more about development and aid.

Many countries made unions all over the world that doesn't mean they are attached for ever legally Somaliland has the best case in Africa politically we yet have to see. Somaliland is not a secessionist case. If the tables were turned and it was Somalia that refused the union and Somaliland was the one calling for union. Somalia would not be a secessionist entity because the two united equally voluntarily. By the way we cant say it became a little inconvenient its not the right term to use its a bit more difficult than that. Do you know there was a bloody war do you know there was a Coup d'état 1961 in Somaliland. The difference between texas and Somaliland is that Somaliland and Somalia united equally it didn't join Somalia it united on equal terms and signed an act of union.The name we agreed on was the Somali republic not Somalia in Afsomali Jamhuuriyada Somalida. My question to you is what will Somalia lose if Somaliland is recognized politically economically socially?