Ofcourse you live in this world every one does but you're nation comes first than the world its good to have diplomatic muscle but you should have a good organized Somali country that can sustain and protect its self and its sovereignty its people and should have territorial control. Other than that you have really nothing, Somaliland is trying to win recognition when the country they were united with once is a play ground for AU troops. Now the IC opened talks for Somaliland and Somalia to clarify their future relations lets see how that goes. Somaliland is still in very pretty good shape controls 90% of its territory has relations with the neighboring countries institutions in tact, have larger budget than Somalia. Held over 3 democratic elections and the last one was held even in the eastern sool region which was once disputed area between Somaliland and the garowe clan enclave. All in all Somaliland functions as a normal state , Somaliland doesn't need assistance from the west nor AU troops to protect its president. Somaliland mission is different it wants to become an official member of the International community. The two countries Somalia and Somaliland are fighting two separate wars my friend you were not that long ago forced to have a mandate no my friend you are not there not even close. When you have you're country intact is the day you can boost about achievements.

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Union should be beneficial for both sides geopolitical economically security this seems to be not the case union with Somalia was given a chance 30 years it failed miserably why repeat the same mistake all over again makes no sense. Why Unite with a poor country when you can unite with a strong state as that of Ukraine with a gdp of $344.727 billion dollars, if we talking about unity. I don't think when we talk about unity religion plays a major role Turkey wants to be part of the EU Morocco wants to cooperate with the EU in one of their trade unions. Somalilanders in the 50s were maybe dumb and naive thinking Unity with Somalia would benefit them the old generation feels ashamed because its their fault that Somaliland is fighting to secure dejure recognition in 2013. While they had the chance 52 to years ago real easy. But some how think it was a lesson for the people of Somaliland never trust some one blindly. They put Pan Somalism before their own interest Djibouti didn't and i swear by god if the people of O'gaden region were given the chance to be free of Ethiopia they would never join with Somalia. But that doesnt mean Somalilanders are disliking people of Somalia, it just means ino kala sooca geela:D

if you respect you're self people will respect you.

The problem with how you people think is you put to much weight into the rest of the world you don't look how the domestic affairs of you're country are being administrated. Yes you have a seat at the AU one in IGAD A.L. But it means nothing on the ground when there is no unity among you're own people you can get as much support from the west and they might even give you the legitimacy you need. But at the end of the day you have to do it you're self. No one will do it for you, right now Puntland supports the government for what it is but the Government doesn't control Puntland its a semi autonomous state they rather consider them allies to the govt. If you look back in history during the Siyad bare regime he could care less about how the world viewed his country dictatorship or not he made an alliance with Soviet union then kicking them out and leaned towards Washington. Right now you are just repeating what the the folks in Somalia say beesha calaamku hana caawiso while aad adigu rabin inad is caawisid only you can come out of this mess unless you want the AMISOM troops to stay for ever.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/28593047

Its funny the Somaliland clans you can easily use biblical terms like the Mozes ishamel clan of Erigavo. Or the Mozes Abdulah Clan from saahil. Or the White cow Moses clan from Hargeysa and gabiley. But nuune is right its not the correct thing to do Alpha always remember we are family no matter what happens the bond between brothers is unbreakable didn't the holy man of mait tell his children that lol. And ofcourse mi casa su casa.

oba hiloowlow;909719 wrote: make up your mind dee where are you from kilil 5 or seylac? My mother is from seylac my father from the other part now dont make it to personal, my father didnt had a real home he was a nomad go from village to village.

Alpha Jesus muse clan thinks Berbera saahil is like their little Kingdom Governor mayor Military port manager you name it:D East burco is expanding Xirsi and his clan do you want me to give you guns:D If i can have my restaurant in berbera bar and everything.

i have been to madrassa in aware occupied territory Dhagaxbuur district

Kikuyo Favorite butler:D The butlers dont want to join Somalia there are no jobs for them in Somalia:D

Waryaaa alpha since when does berbera belong to you're Folks east Burco is coming for berbera prepare loool By the way i am not from hargeysa i am from seylac my clan are reer xebeed

Nuune wa runta JB said i am not a Somalilander i am actually a pretender:D which is fine

Sorry i got little bit carried away but this issue will be dealt with these people have grievances they just want Siilaanyo to listen to them. And Siilaanyo and his personal body guard xiirsi they're completely ignoring them.They don't really want the criminal court to chase oday Siilaanyo. I have to go now i have to feed my gold fish. Wardigi na wu ii sugaya be well Che.

These people are cry babies Siilaanyo needs to send the military and shut them up if you dont want to listen it has to go the hard way Ingriis iyo ba la taga bay baratay iyo waxba la dacweyaa.

Loooooool its a bluff Che

Haatu;909628 wrote: Nin daad qaadey xumbo cuskay It's not too late to join the Somaliweyn ferry boys. That way you could save some face and say you conceded for Somaliweyn not for the South :D Since when is Somalia , Somaliweyn why do people consider Somalia , Somaliweyn Why dont you say its never to late to join Somalia Not that Somaliland will join Somalia. they rather join Ukraine than join Somalia

Che -Guevara;909315 wrote: Somalis are all dissatisfied. Wouldn't you be Che hadaa lugu yidha sportka kama qeyb gali kartid reminds me of apartheid in south Africa

in the mean time Somaliland controls 90% of Somaliland territory and there is no threat coming from Somalia, i am not sure about high profile SL politicians in the south if you consider fawziya high profile she never held a position in Somaliland not in 21 years. The only thing about her is she was a very known person in Somaliland and comes from one of the aristocratic SL families. But nothing will change on Somaliland and Somalia only the talks can change a few things. Somalia and Somaliland can work together some good deals. if both sides are open and sincere. Somalia hasn't change politically and domestically the only thing they gained with the trip to Washington is official relations state to state relations but that wont change the fact that Somalia still needs 17.000 AU troops in Somalia and that it still doesn't function as a normal state, that it still doesn't have the organs and institutions that the people of Somalia need. Somalia is making progress diplomatically but only the people of Somalia and its politicians can change Somalia internally and that's where the problem lies.

Carafaat what do you think of a union between SL djibouti and Eritrea. That means also the Afars will be united the people of seylac lughaye and gabiley and borama who both live in SL and Djibouti will be united. And i always liked a beautiful beja woman from the lowlands of Eritrea.

Mooge;909607 wrote: here comes mujahid Faroole. the wave is coming. the giant is ready to have coffee. i told you ha sugiwaayina. FAROOLE wali ma hadlin qurba joogti ba hadashay faroole wanu sugayna ninkaas marku micrifoonka qabsadu u know whats coming walahi with out faroole Somalia politics is no fun.

Alpha Blondy;909579 wrote: Abwaan, the notion of the former Somali Republic being unified once more is wishful thinking. whether Somaliland decides to go its own way or to reunite with its southern neighbouring country CANNOT be decided by Somalia. the fate of Somaliland remains firmly within its own hands. the great strides made by the Somaliland people and Government over the last 21 years is a reflection of Somaliland taking control of its affairs.these efforts have been wholly achieved by Somaliland and its efforts ALONE and without outside influence, assistance and politics of paternalism that's ravaged Somalia's collective mindset and that of its people. certainty, Somalia, as thought, a victim of outside manipulation, has to all intent and purposes developed a pitiful self-induced mindset. help us! its always one thing or another. there is always an outside enemy, some evil doer intent on destruction but NEVER the admission of fault, of poor governance, off internal division, off poor leaders, off willful negligent, off tribal warfare, off opportunism, off misfortune and so and so forth. Abwaan take this even dhaliyardi ingriiska ku koray baa Somaliland ku sheegaya dhankay u socotto, you will be dealing with these people for the decades to come

Abwaan;909578 wrote: No wishes here, it is the reality XX. La qabso runta oo warka riyada jooji oday. Abwaan not in this world Somaliland will never ever be ruled by others i know that you know that ilaah ba og, its better we all move on:D laakin waad ku riyoon karta Somaliland inay ku hoos timado kuma diidayo , laakin siday tahay waxyalahasi ma shaqeyaan. Walaaltinimada Somaliland iyo Somalia yaan la kala fogeyn.

Abwaan if wishes were horses:D

Oodweyne;909562 wrote: This is what is known in certain quarters a trail balloon send up to see whether the public could be conditions to accept a diminished outcome from the said talks with somalia. In other words, you do this sort of stuff in advance of a likely concession you know you will have to make in the negotiation table. All in all, it is non-starter for Somaliland, despite whatever the some elites connected to the current government may whisper to the ears of a passing journalist. But we shall see. The guy is talking about a confederacy state system it would make sense if it gives Somaliland an exit way out with UN supervised referendum or something in that direction but a lose union with Somalia means Kulmiye co failed to deliver. is a No go zone Siilaanyo and kulmiye know this will only cause troubles in Somaliland and create unrest so they need to come with ictraaf from Somalia or a way to get ictraaf. Just like in the 50s when the SL delegation said we went to England and people asked do you guys have the hawd an reserve area and they said no but we have independency. Well today they have to come we have recognition or we have recognition in 4 years. Other than that is big time F.