Problem carafaat is that Jubada dhexe is very mixed territory. While the lower jubba is predominately Azania territory, so the lower jubba and gedo are forced to make a state. But knowing the clan dynamics and the rivalries between these 2 clans its hard for them to compromise. Thats why right now they are cooking a sub clan conference in Garowe Faroole is hosting this special conference. The Mayor of garisa was invited he is currently in garowe. The president of the liyuu police Ileey might also come and Professor Gandi is also invited. Axmed blackie how ever is not coming he preferred dealing with HAG instead. And they might reach an agreement he is due to arrive in Xamar soon.

Oba never promote HAG on HAG violence, if there are any HAG problems you need to sort that out diplomatically

He is referring to SL speaker of Parliament Abdiraxmaan Ciiro

Ma shinbir bu dabada ka nuugaya wamaxay waxasi

Taleexi;911712 wrote: Hooyooyinka afkaaga ka jeedi never the less this is a good development. Xaasha nin weyn baan ahay hooyo waxba kama sheegin ,slaamoyinka oo dhan ya ku yidhi hooyooyin weye imisa ayaan waxba dhalin.

Madaxweynihii Hore Ee Maamulka Galmudug Oo Safar Ku Jooga Magaalada Hargeysa Iyo Su’aalaha Socdaalkiisa La Iska Weydiinayo Ma jiro war rasmi ah oo la xidhiidha safarka siyaasigani Hargeysa ku joogo, laakiin......... Hargeysa (GNS) - Madaxweynihii hore ee maamul goboleedka Somaliya ee Galmudug Mr. Maxamed Warsame Kiimiko, ayaa safar ku jooga magaalada Hargeysa ee caasimadda Somaliland. Mr. Kiimiko, hadda wax xil ah ma hayo, waase siyaasi dhalasho ahaan ka soo jeeda Beelaha HAG ee dalka Somaliya. Ma jiro war rasmi ah oo la xidhiidha safarka siyaasigani Hargeysa ku joogo, laakiin dhawrkii maalmood ee u dambeeyay ayuu ku sugnaa caasimadda Hargeysa. Wargeyska Geeska Afrika oo isku dayay inuu Mr. Kiimiko wax ka weydiiyo socdaalkiisa Hargeysa, ayaa ka gaabsaday inuu saxaafada la hadlo. Waxase la ogyahay in Mr. Kiimiko sannadkii 2006 ay dawladii Madaxweyne Rayaale ka celisay madaarka Hargeysa, isagoo doonayay inuu soo galo gudaha caasimadda isagoo ahaa Madaxweynaha Galmudug. Madaxweynihii hore ee Galmudug maanta ayuu ka dhoofayaa dalka. Mr. Kiimiko, oo muddo dheer dawladii Siyaad Barre ka ahaan jiray wasiirka ganacsiga, waxa la sheegay inay xilligaas saaxiibo dhow ahaayeen Madaxweyne Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo. Lamana oga inuu la kulmay qaar kamid ah masuuliyiinta dawladda Somaliland mudadan uu Hargeysa joogay.

Oba unuka needs to train some anti terror security forces in jawhar like in Mogadishu.

Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibedda Somaliya Foosiya Yuusuf X Aadan oo ka qayb gashay shirka Midawga Afrika Waaheena uga warantay safarkeeda Addis ababa(Waaheen) Wasiirka Wasaaradda Arrimaha Dibedda Somaliya Foosiya Yuusuf X Aadan ayaa ka qayb gashay Shirka Wasiiradda Afrika uga bilaabmay manta Xarunta Ururka Midawga Afrika ee Addis ababa oo fadhigii ugu horeeyay manta ka qabsoomay. Foosiya Yuusuf X Aadan waxa ay sheegtay manta inay farxad u tahay ka soo qayb galka Shirka Midawga Afrika iyadoo sheegtay inuu shirkani ku soo beegmay wakhti ay Somaliya Dawladd buuxa heshay isal markaana ay Maraykanku Ictiraafeen. Marawo Foosiya waxa ay sheegtay Kulankii saaka in uu ahaa mid qoraalo la isku dhaafsanayay dhinacoodana ay ka gudbiyeen Ajandihii ay siteen, sidoo kale waxa ay sheegtay shirka ka hor inay la kulantay madaxa badan oo ka socota Caalamka oo Addis ababa ku sugan kuwaasoo ay kala hadashaya Marxaladda cusub ee ay Somaliya gashay. Foosiya Yuusuf X Aadan oo Waaheen weydiisay shirka Ingiriiska ka dhacaya Bisha May in wadahadaladii Somaliya iyo Somaliland lagu sii ambaqaadi doono iyo inkale oo ay isa soo hor fadhiisan doonaan waxa ay tidhi “ Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh Maxamud waxa uu sheegay in Somaliya sii wadi doonto wadahadalada ay la bilowday Somaliland, hase yeeshee Ajandaha Shirka kama hordhici karno oo lama samayn, markaas waxaya ku xidhan tahay arrintaasi Ajandaha oo sadex geesood ah” ayay tidhi Foosiya Yuusuf X Aadan mar aanu weydiinay dedaalada ay dibeda ka wado inay la jaan-qaadi karaan kuwa gudaha Somaliya looga baahan yahay waxa ay tidhi “ Anigu shakhsi baan ka ahay Golaha Wasiiradda haa waanu gaadhnay baan odhan karaa wax lagu faani karo, hase yeeshee sagaal ka wasiir ee kale ee gudaha joogaa iyana waxay wadaan kuwo ka badan waanan qabaa in ay wada socdaan dedaaladaasi oo dhami” ayay tidhi Wasiir Foosiya oo jawaabta su’aashaas sii wadatay ayaa tidhi “ ilaa inta aan arko Somaliya Horumar la taaban karo ayay gaadhay mudadii aanu joognay, sanadkana waxa aan rajaynaynaa inay cagaheeda isku taagto oo waxyaabo la taaban karo aanu bulshada iyo Caalamkaba tusno” ayay kaga baxday.

Iskahorimaad xalay ku dhexmaray Ciidamada Dowladda Soomaaliya iyo kuwa Al-shabaab Degmada Jowhar Khamiis, Jannaayo 24, 2013 (HOL) — Ugu yaraan shan qof oo dhinacyadii dagaalamay ka tirsan ayaa ku dhintay dagaal xalay ciidamada dowladda Soomaaliya iyo Al-shabaab ku dhexmaray demada Jowhar ee xarunta gobolka Shabeellada Dhexe. Taliyaha guutada labaad ee ciidamada xoogga dalka, Jeneraal Maxamed Maxamuud Saneey oo ku sugan degmada Jowhar ayaa sheegay inay xalay lasoo weeraray fariisimo ay ciidamada dowladdu ku lahaayeen afaafka hore ee degmadaas, ayna iska difaaceen. “Xalay weerar ayaa waxaa soo qaaday Al-shabaab, waxay kasoo qaadeen tuulada Bay-xaaw oo ku dhow degmada Jowhar, balse waa la iska difaacay, waxaana kaga dilnay dagaalkaas hal ruux laba kalena waan kaga dhaawacnay,” ayuu yiri Jen. Saney. Balse, goobjoogayaal ku sugan degmada Jowhar ayaa sheegay in dagaalku uu qadar saacad ku dhow socday, ayna arkeen saakay maydadka lix qof oo ku dhintay dagaalkaas. Al-shabaab ayaan dhankooda ka hadlin dagaalkii xalay ka dhacay degmada Jowhar iyadoo dagaalkaas uu ka mid noqonayo kuwii ugu xoogganaa ee ka dhacay degmadaas tan iyo markii ciidamada dowladdu ay Al-shabaab kala wareegeen degmadaas dhammaadkii sannadkii hore. Xaaladda degmada Jowhar ayaa saakay deggen, iyadoo goobihii uu dagaalku ka dhacay ay ku sugan yihiin ciidamada dowladda Soomaaliya iyo kuwa Midowga Afrika ee AMISOM.

Taleexi awoow dadka reer Somaliland hakala fogayn dadka isku wad wa ku sidee.

Marmar baad sida slaamah xaawalayda u hadasha

oba hiloowlow;911612 wrote: i dont know im not even supporting this BS man its way too complicated. One thing is for sure Hiiraan wont join galgaduud or mudug, and our kinsmen in ceeldheer will not join abwaan's kin state. just to complicated heck even reer cadaado will not agree to join the ahlsunna galmudug states That means HAG doesn't really want federal states to be established so Puntland Bay and Bakool and Jubbaland will have federal states and HAG territories not how does that work.

They will be part of a state in those regions perhaps they will get their representation in time. But they cant be part of a state controlled from Jawhar its not feasible practically.Or else the Habar ganster clan cannot have a state of their own. They already have half of mudug they need galguduud and perhaps Hiiraan can join 2 than they re complete. Or they have to ditch Hiiraan Kick Puntland out of north Mudug and form a galguduud mudug state.

Oba if you gonna form a state with galguduud it would be suitable if you actually bordered them. By the way Unuka is very small in Galguduud. Its Habar gangster territory.

Oba lower shabelle is not going to wait for you they are already taking part of several conferences. And how is Galguduud going to be part of ur state , you dont even border Galguduud.??

Mogadishu cant be capital city of a regional state its a federal capital of the country the seat of the goverment and parliament they can use banadir though as one of the regions. Unuka fulfills the criteria because they have the middle shebelle and banadir 2 regions is enough. They have one problem which is the status of Mogadishu the parliament needs to define that Mogadishu is the capital of the country or not because the constitution doesn't state that Mogadishu is the capital of the country. But when they decide that Mogadishu is the capital city of the country they cant declare Mogadishu to be the capital of their regional state. But i am sure that the lower shabelle will go to bay and bakool. And gedo will go with the lower jubba. while the middle jubba will form a state with bay and bakool.

Oba true the lower shabelle is multi tribal the Unuka, Water Maliyans, ilma may may and some other Bravanese people. But if Ilma May may convince the watermaliyans to join their state. And give them the vp in their new state they will form the majority in the lower shabelle. Also the offspring's of Sheikh indhocade al markaawi and his HAG wing can also be found in the lower shabelle these days lol. By the way Oba you cant say let them sort themselves out they need to join a state the lower shabelle cant be a state on his own. you need 2 provinces or more.

Wadani;911589 wrote: eray-iftiimiye War naga tag erey ifftimiye ku noqo maxaad iftiminaysa ma hal erey mise kumunaan erey:D

^^ They live in Lower shabelle why cant they claim, it will be interesting some clans will dissatisfied because you need 2 regions to be a federal state. And Ilma May may dont want to leave their clans behind they are developing the clan identity now this was not like that in the past.

Haye Qamuus na afsomali ku sheega

Mintid Farayar;911570 wrote: Silly debate over the airwaves by politicians from both sides. Basically, slogans to shore up their own internal power-jockeying within their respective governments. The question is: Why are the talks slow in progressing? Who's eager to move forward with the talks and who's dragging their feet? Why? The answers to these questions give a far better idea of the situation than the usual obligatory statements emanating from both sides... Good question in a few weeks these talks will begin but SL seems to be ready , and Somalia also they are busy now to find the exact location where to hold the talks. Will it be Djibouti Nairobi addis ababa or Dubai.

Whats wrong with Arab Kingdoms they were superior in their times. Dont know about iraqi flags though:D

I dont think Gedo can be included because of the clan demographics in gedo If they take middle jubba , than gedo and lower jubba should form a state.

Quruxuda wanu u dhalanay

So that means Jubbaland will be Lower juba and gedo only