Taleexi;913771 wrote: XX: Somalia is a unitary state as we and the rest of the world know it. The chances of reversing to how it was in 1960 is very slim if not impossible at all. The choices are very clear, the scramble of Somalia where every clan has its clan state or the nation stays together where genuine reconciliation committees bridge the gap in our fractured societies. Clearly, some zealots have been programming your lot for quite some time therefore, it is very hard for you to accept the reality insofar Makhir and Khatumo folks are concerned. They opted out to be part of your experimentation exercise - You always refer to colonial boundaries, don't you understand political evolution, the border between former colonies ceased to exist in 1960, rectifying it is insanity. In particular, only one clan of the north wants it is even worse. My State, California, used to be part of Mexico at once, the chances of it going back to Mexico are what?... !, In sum, the longer you stay in isolation, the longer you don't only lose political leverage in Somali political arena but the longer you leave your kids with social scars where they only even resort to and feel comfortable with one clan off-springs. Saaxiib, I see social problems in the horizon. Somalia's statehood is based on a experiment tried in 1960 when i said Kulu sheyin yerciu ila aslih its the truth just look at Puntland based on the Maguartania Sultanate prior to Italian Colonialism now they might be part of the overall Somalia. But their separate dealing with the italian colonialist is very much viewable in modern Somalia. You can call Somalia a unitary state a federal state a confederacy but the statehood of the so called Somalia state is very fragile and principles and founding fathers sometimes confuse their country with parts of Kenya and Ethiopia and Djibouti. Just look at the Flag it Symbolizing Somaliland and Somalia Djibouti NFD kenya O'gaden Ethiopia. Somalia's fecundation prepared the wrong hence why people till the day of today confuse Somaliweyn with Somalia., On Somaliland its here to stay no one can change the will of its people it fought for it , the world might view the 2 under one state but reality speaks of something else Amisom Somalia has no legitimacy in Somaliland. And that my friend is the hard truth there is nothing that ties SL with the Koonfurians, Somalilanders have learned from their mistakes and moved on.

Spoken like a true Patriot always liked this guy.

Niger gives green light to U.S. drone deployment: source NIAMEY | Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:06am EST (Reuters) - Niger has given permission for U.S. surveillance drones to be stationed on its territory to improve intelligence on al Qaeda-linked Islamist fighters in northern Mali and the wider Sahara, a senior government source said. The U.S. ambassador to Niger, Bisa Williams, made the request at a meeting on Monday with President Mahamadou Issoufou, who immediately accepted it, the source said. "Niger has given the green light to accepting American surveillance drones on its soil to improve the collection of intelligence on Islamist movements," said the source, who asked not to be identified. The drones could be stationed in Niger's northern desert region of Agadez, which borders Mali, Algeria and Libya, the source said. A spokesperson for the United States' African Command (AFRICOM) declined to comment. The United States already has drones and surveillance aircraft stationed at several points around Africa. Its only permanent military base is in the small country of Djibouti in the Horn of Africa, more than 3,000 miles from Mali. After her talks with Issoufou, Williams told reporters they had discussed economic and military cooperation and development issues. She also expressed Washington's appreciation for the French-led military mission to expel an alliance of al Qaeda-linked fighters from northern Mali. French and Malian troops retook control of the ancient trading town of Timbuktu on Monday, as they drove deep into the heart of the desert region the size of Texas seized by Islamist fighters last year. Washington has provided military transport planes to airlift men and equipment into Mali but said it will not send combat troops. The head of the U.S. Africa Command, General Carter Ham, visited Niger last month. The poor, landlocked West Africa state has said it wants to have closer security cooperation with Washington. (Reporting by Abdoulaye Massalatchi, Additional reporting by John Irish in Paris; Writing by Daniel Flynn. Editing by Jeremy Gaunt.)

US considering new drone base in Africa - report Published: 29 January, 2013, 05:10 Conflict, Military, Africa, Terrorism, USA, Army, Air Force US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton holds a small US-made drone drone that the Ugandan military uses in Somalia to fight al-Qaida linked militants (AFP Photo / Pool / Jacquelyn Martin) The US is planning to consolidate its position in Africa with a new drone outpost in Niger, with the stated purpose of providing unarmed surveillance support to French efforts in Mali and keeping tabs on al-Qaeda elements on the continent. The robotic unmanned aircraft would likely be based in Niger, on the eastern border of Mali, where French forces are currently waging a campaign against Al-Qaeda, AFP reported, quoting an anonymous official. If the plan is approved, up to 300 US military servicemembers and contractors could be sent to the base to operate the drone aircraft, the New York Times reported. US Africa Command is also considering another location as an alternative to the base in Burkina Faso, the official said. However, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland reiterated that there are no plans to commit US troops to any fighting on the ground. In the future, the US command does not rule out using the base to conduct military strikes if the situation deteriorates or the extremist threat increases, military officials told The New York Times. In the meantime, the US military's Africa Command is reviewing the options for the base with other countries in the region, including Burkina Faso. The Africa Command’s scheme still needs the go-ahead from the Department of Defense, President Barack Obama and Niger. No final decision had been made, but a status-of-forces agreement has been reached between the two governments in Niger on Monday, providing legal protection to American troops in the African country. "Niger has given the green light to accepting American surveillance drones on its soil to improve the collection of intelligence on Islamist movements," Reuters quoted its source who asked not to be identified. If the drone base plan goes through, the facility could become home to as many as 300 American military and contractual personnel. The United States so far has only one permanent base in Africa, in Djibouti. The drone base there is widely used for missions in nearby Yemen and allows access to Somalian and Sudanese airspace. A base in Niger would drastically shorten the response time to developing situations in the region. The ongoing discussions about the installation follow the French military intervention in Mali and the Algerian hostage crisis, which left at least 37 foreigners dead and highlighted the threat from al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. On Wednesday, outgoing US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised not to let northern Mali become a “safe haven” for extremists in the region as al-Qaeda-affiliated insurgents have become a “a very serious, ongoing threat.” Last week, Washington sent approximately 100 military trainers to nations that are prepared to, or have already deployed, troops to Mali – including Nigeria, Niger, Burkina Faso, Senegal, Togo and Ghana.

Whats going on Egypt unrest fighting more than 40 people dead in just 2 days, this Morsi guy is messing things up

Chief of Egypt’s Army Warns of ‘Collapse’ as Chaos Mounts Mostafa El Shemy/Associated Press Egyptian protesters burned a state security armored vehicle that demonstrators commandeered during clashes with security forces Monday night. CAIRO — Reacting to Egypt’s growing chaos, the head of the army warned on Tuesday of the “collapse of the state” if political forces in the country did not reconcile, reflecting growing impatience with the crisis from Egypt’s most powerful institution. Multimedia Morsi's State of Emergency “The continuation of the conflict between different political forces and their disagreement on running the affairs of the country may lead to the collapse of the state and threatens the future of the coming generations,” said Gen. Abdul-Fattah al-Sisi, who is also the defense minister, adding that “the attempt to affect the stability of the state institutions is a dangerous matter that harms Egyptian national security.” His remarks, quoted on an official Army Facebook page, came as violence in Cairo began to escalate. During clashes between riot police and protesters along the Nile Corniche early on Tuesday, the fighting spilled into one of the city’s luxury hotels, leaving the lobby in ruins. The worst of the turmoil, which has left at least 45 people dead, has been in Port Said at the northern tip of the Suez Canal. Egypt’s president, Mohamed Morsi, has imposed a monthlong state of emergency in the city and two others in the Suez Canal zone, calling on the army to regain control of security. General Sisi also said the army would protect the “vital” Suez Canal. In Port Said on Monday, street battles reached a bloody new peak with a death toll over three days of at least 45, with at least five more protesters killed by bullet wounds, hospital officials said. The state of emergency imposed by Mr. Morsi virtually eliminates due process protections against abuse by the police. Angry crowds burned tires and hurled rocks at the police. And the police, with little training and less credibility, hunkered down behind barrages of tear gas, birdshot and occasional bullets. The sense that the state was unraveling may have been strongest in Port Said, where demonstrators have proclaimed their city an independent nation. But in recent days, the unrest has risen in towns across the country and in Cairo as well. In the capital on Monday, a mob of protesters managed to steal an armored police vehicle, drive it to Tahrir Square and make it a bonfire. After two years of torturous transition, Egyptians have watched with growing anxiety as the erosion of the public trust in the government and a persistent security vacuum have fostered a new temptation to resort to violence to resolve disputes, said Michael Hanna, a researcher at the Century Foundation, based in New York, who is now in Cairo. “There is a clear political crisis that has eroded the moral authority of the state,” he said. And the spectacular evaporation of the government’s authority here in Port Said has put that crisis on vivid display, most conspicuously in the rejection of Mr. Morsi’s declarations of the curfew and state of emergency. As in Suez and Ismailia, tens of thousands of residents of Port Said poured into the streets in defiance just as a 9 p.m. curfew was set to begin. Bursts of gunfire echoed through the city for the next hours, and from 9 to 11 p.m. hospital officials raised the death count to seven from two. When two armored personnel carriers approached a funeral Monday morning for some of the seven protesters killed the day before, a stone-throwing mob of thousands quickly chased them away. And within a few hours, the demonstrators had resumed their siege of a nearby police station, burning tires to create a smoke screen to hide behind amid tear gas and gunfire. Many in the city said they saw no alternative but to continue to stay in the streets. They complained that the hated security police remained unchanged and unaccountable even after President Hosni Mubarak was ousted two years ago. Protesters saw no recourse in the justice system, which is also unchanged; they dismissed the courts as politicized, especially after the acquittals of all those accused of killing protesters during the revolution. Then came the death sentences handed down Saturday to 21 Port Said soccer fans for their role in a deadly brawl. The death sentences set off the current unrest in this city. Nor, the people said, did they trust the political process that brought to power Mr. Morsi and his Islamist allies in the Muslim Brotherhood. He had vowed to usher in the rule of law as “a president for all Egyptians.” But in November, he used a presidential decree to temporarily stifle potential legal objections so that his Islamist allies could rush out a new Constitution. His authoritarian move kicked off a sharp uptick in street violence leading to this weekend’s Port Said clashes. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/world/middleeast/egypt-protest-updates.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

All of Africa is based on colonial boundaries Somaliland is not not an exception, you act if the Koonfurians created their own boundaries. But the truth is Somalilanders had little or no dealings with the koonfurians prior to union in 1960. It had its distinct history it was part of the ottoman Empire and in mid evil times it had its own Muslim Emirates. The whole interaction with the Koonfurians was because of the short union of 30 years and now everything went back to where it was before the union.carabtu waxay tidha Kulu sheyin yerciu ila aslihi. There are minority serbs part of kosovo they identify themselves as Kosovans and even Bosnians their national identity is Kosovon. The historical identity of the people in the context of national identity can never be compared to a lose identity that associates some people. For example Bosnia and Herzegovina they were converted to islam by the ottomans and they have serbs Croats being part of the same country. These people were inter related tradionally for centuries lived in the region long before the creation of the former Yugoslavia and unintentionally they developed a close kinship despite their different tribal origin but were united by faith close social economical relations between the various people under the Bosnian ottoman province. The same with the Eritreans of hamasien akele guzay Seraye the highland Christians speak the tigrinya language like their close counterparts in the tigray province of Ethiopia dance even a similar way and even follow the same Orthodox Tewahedo Church. But their national being is Eritrean they feel closer to the muslim lowlands up the sudan border because they share the same history traditions and country.You should read a topic in the camel milk section what is Somalinimo no one can came with a clear answer. What about the Afghans once being part of the Persian Empire even though some deeply know that some pashtun tribes trace their origin back to Persian fore fathers particularly the Qizilbash and the daris during Achaemenid era of Persia.Today they consider themselves Afghan and not Persians.

Homunculus;913705 wrote: Kurds, Eritrians, South Sudanese, Somalilanders. One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong. Somalilanders don't have any grounds for separation, they are not a unique ethnic group or religion. If every tribe wants a separate country then Africa would have 3000 countries. Yeah we know that you suffered from a brutal regime but you were not the only ones who suffered and the SNM wasn't a peaceful group either since they themselves committed atrocities against the peaceful people in Sanaag. Somaliland was a separate country of its own in 1960 they gained independence like any other nation of Africa, its people were were classed as second class citizens after a hasted union and occupied for more than 30 years. The union was rejected just after the union in 1961 They gained their independence after a long war and ever since lived in peace and stability, Somalilanders are a unique group with a unique culture political culture and distinct history and national identity. similar to all those others who fought for independence. And if you come with Somali, no one can base a statehood national identity on a lose identity called Somali,because what is Somali. what makes one Somali. its similar to the lose identity of the Arabs. Our next door neighbors the Djiboutians are Somalis for what ever that means. If a lose identity as that of Somali or Arab unites people. the Eritreans would have not fought a war to be separate from their linguistic kin in tigray whom they share the same religion language with but they consider Tigray not their identity. Similar to the lose albanian identity when the Kosovons gained independence one would think they would unite with their Kin in Albania but this was not the case ask you're self why because Albanian is not their identity Kosovon is.

^^ Italian Somalia

Hassan is the man who runs the show saacid operates as the deputy mayor of Xamar.

^^ damn right Somaliland statehood now tomorrow the day after till the the day the world ends , every nation fights for their dignity and independence to live in freedom justice , and Somaliland will continue to exist as an independent state. If the Kurds are fighting more than 70 years, the Eritreans fought more than 30 years the south sudanese fought more than 50 years. Reer Somali galbeed fighting for more than 129 years. I think Somaliland is having it real easy because they control their future, long live.

Myir whats so special Somaliland has diplomatic offices in Djibouti kenya Tanzania south Africa rwanda and soon in South Sudan

Waxa kale oo uu wasiirku sheegay in weftiga ka socday dawlada Koonfurta Suudaan ay isla soo qaadeen wada hadalo hore oo u socday, kuwaasi oo la xidhiidhay sidii ay labada dale e Somaliland iyo Koonfurta Suudaan isku dhaafsan lahaayeen safaarado. Waxaanu wasiirku tilmaamay in ay heshiis kuwada gaadheen dawlada Koonfurta Suudaan in ay Somaliland safaarad ka furto magaalada Jubba isla markaana ay sida ugu dhakhsaha badan xafiiskaasi u farayaan, waxaanu yidhi “Waxa kale oo aanu la kulanay weftigii ka socday dawlada Koonfurta Suudaan ee ka qayb gelayay shirka waxaanu ka wada hadalnay wada hadalo horeba noogu socday oo ah in labada dal ay is dhaaf sadaan xafiisyo iyo safaarado taasi oo mudaba qabyo ku ahayd dhinaca Koonfurta Suudaan oo hore u sheegtay in aanay farsamo ahaan diyaar u hayan bal se aanu mabda’iyan isla qaadanay, waxaanan shacabka Somaliland u sheegayaa in labada dalba ay ku heshiiyeen in sida ugu dhakhsaha badan dawlada Somaliland loo ogol yahay in ay safiir iyo safaaradba ka samaysato magaalada Jubba ee dalka Koonfurta Suudaan, laakiin ay dawlada Koonfurta Suudaan muddo ku qaadan doonto arrin dhinaca farsamada ah awgeed.”

i am just joking someelee i consider them family the closest to me.

Wadani;913605 wrote: Haddii aanay qabyaaladdu ina reebi lahayn oo aynu ahaan lahayn ummad midaysan, miyaynaan meel heer sare ah gaadhi lahayn? War Somalidu dad isku af ah weye ismana afgartan hadana bal adba hagaaji.

Wadani;913597 wrote: Oba, Soomaalidu way ka duwanyihiin madowga kale, waliba aad bay uga duwanyihiin ee dhibaatadu waxa weeyaan inagii baa isku mushquulnay. Haddii aynu u soo jeedsan lahayn danteena iyo cadowga rasmiga ah Afrikada kale in aynu ka duwannahay adduunkoo dhan bay u caddaan lahayd. wtf Somalidu wa xaabo,, Somalia 17.000 oo africaan ah ba ilaaliya kheyr na kuma joogan wa lo qayilay Somaliland na wa iska noolyihin ilahay ba iska wata dunidaba cidi kama taqano oo wax buuran islama hayaan.. Djiboutina fransiis ba ilaaliyaa oo wali wax maxmiyaad. kilinka shanaad iyo nfd iyaga hadalkooda ba daa. Africa da kale wabay ina dhamaan oo wax bay haystan oo wuuxuun ba u dhisan. Somalidu wa xaabo xaarkooda walaqda, Dabeedna murayada isku eega oo is cajabiya oo yidha wanu qurux badanahay kalay arka sankayga dheer kalay arag sidan u eegahay loool.

Nuune ingriiska ilahay dhulka hala Goo'ooyo jimankaga ku sii daa:D

Ingriis iyo fransiis wada socda waleh waxba so socda nuunow , maxaynu yeelna

Ethiopian leader Hailemariam Desalegn elected AU chairman on JANUARY 27, 2013 · in NEWS 11:50 am ADDIS ABABA – Ethiopian Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn took over the post of African Union chairman on Sunday, replacing Benin’s President Thomas Boni Yayi in the one-year post. “It is with a great sense of honour and humility that I accept the chairperson of our union,” Hailemariam told leaders at the AU summit meeting. “I wish to express my heartfelt thanks for the opportunity to serve this half-a-century-old organisation for the next one year.” Yayi, the outgoing AU chair, hugged Hailemariam and said he will “succeed brilliantly in his mission in pushing us forward in our agenda for unity, peace, stability and development of our continent”. Hailemariam takes over at the AU just five months after emerging from being a relatively little known politician to run his nation after the death of his mentor Meles Zenawi. A protege of Meles, Hailemairam has managed an apparently smooth transition with little major change in policy from Meles, who had ruled with an iron fist since toppling dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam in 1991. Hailemariam, a former water engineer, has defied critics who feared instabilty in Ethiopia, taking over leadership of his country in a rare peaceful handover of power for the Horn of Africa nation. Before becoming prime minister, Hailemariam was president of Ethiopia’s Southern Nations, Nationalities and Peoples Region, and was appointed to be deputy prime minister and foreign minister in 2010 after the ruling coalition party’s fourth win, a landslide victory.(AFP)

Dadka mudaharadaya maxay ahayeen hada

Xiinfaniin SL gives khatumo all the attention they want diplomatically Militarily , but Khatumo wants the attention of HAG and Hassan in Mogadishu. And that seems to be not arriving some how, so marka mar mar bala jubeya and thats what Professor Cali is doing:D.

Dee way ogyihin wayse is nasaqayaan:D

Jamhuuriyadda Somaliland: Qaran ku Kalsoon Amnigooda January 28th, 2013 Bahal Iga Da’a weynoo Dad cun ahi ma Joogee Kuma didee Hargooloow Ha Igu Tumin Durbaanada Iyo Daasadaha Madhan (Abwaan Hadraawi) Waxaad moodaa in beryahan danbe in dagaal Nafsaani ah lagu soo qaaday Shacbiga reer Somaliland iyada oo sidii caadada u ahaan jirtay cadawga Somaliland ay af-labadii yeedhaan marka ay rajo beenaad yari meel uga soo bidhiiqdo! Yaa Xasuusta demdemtii iyo sawaxanka ka bixi jiray cadawga Somaliland maalmihii ama bilihii u horreeyay ee xilka soomaaliya loo cimaamaday Cali Mahadi, Cabdi qaasim, Cabdilaahi Yuusuf, Iyo Sheekh Sharriif? Eryada ay odhan jireen waxaa ka mid ahaa; Imika ayay u dhamaanaysaa Somaliland! Maxaydun yeelli dawlad baa soomaali u dhalataye, dadkiina soo raaca, imika ayaa idinka oo Ordaya aad iman doontaan…. erayadaas iyo kuwo ka sii xun ayaa badiyaa ka soo yeedhi jiray cadawga Somaliland. Maantana dhawaaqaas mid la mid ah oo caalwaa ah ayaa ka soo burqanaya afka buka ee cadawga Somaliland. Xaqiiqduse waxay tahay oo ay Taariikhdu ka marag kacday in ay Dabayshu ay qaaday kuwii sheeganayay Madaxweynayaasha Soomaaliya, halka ay Somaliland ka tahay Qaran jira oo dhismayay Dhaqaale ahaan, Siyaasad ahaan iyo Millatari ahaanba. Iyada oo Shacbiga reer Somaliland iyo Xukuumadiisuba ay soo dhawaynayaan in shacbiga reer Soomaaliya ay nabadgelyo iyo dawladnimo helaan, hadana dhinacooda markaad eegto wali waxaa ka muuqda inaan caqli badani u kordhin oo ay wali ku hadaaqayaan wixii ay ku hadaaqi jireen 22kii sanadood ee la soo dhaafay! Waxay la bootaalaysanayaan ama ay la birin-birqaynayaan Maraykan baa na Aqoonsaday.. na soo raaca.. Midnimadu waa muqqadas iyo erayo badan oo kale oo duugoobay oo ay isticmaalayeen tan iyo intii ay Somaliland jirtay. Waxay ahayd inay ku mashquulaan xasalinta nabadooda iyo dhismaha dalkooda, halka ay wakhtiga iskaga luminayaan Somaliland oo ah Qaran isku tashaday. Intaas hadaan ka yara gudbo, Qoraalka ay Wasaarada Arrimaha Debada ee UK ay ka soo saartay Somaliland, waa Qoraal lagu degdegay oo aan wax saamayn ah ku yeellan doonin arrimaha Nabadgelyada, Siyaasada iyo Dhaqaalaha Somaliland. Allah mahadi haka gaadhee Somaliland way ka soo gudubtay xilli ay saameeyn ku yeeshaan Siyaasado wadamo kale, Waana Qaran isku kalsoon oo awood buuxda u leh inuu ilaashado Amaankiisa, talaabo adagna ka qaado cid kasta oo isku dayda inay waxyeellayso Amaanka Qaranka Somaliland. Waxaan Shacbiga reer Somaliland ku baraarujinayaa inaanay dheg u dhigin dacaayadaha ay cadawgu ka fidinayaan Somaliland, waxaana lagama maarmaan ah in Shicib iyo Dawladba loo hawl galo sidii loo sii Xoojin lahaa Amaanka Dalkeena, dhirbaaxo culusna loogu dhufan lahaa cid kasta oo isku dayda inay waxyeello u geysato Amaanka, Dawladnimada iyo Madaxbanaanida Somaliland. Ugu Danbayn Amaanka Somaliland waa 100% waxaana u Carbisan Ciidamada Geesiyaasha ah ee Milattariga, Booliska, Sirdoonka, Badda, Asluubta oo kaashanaya Shacbiga Geesiyiinta ah ee reer Somaliland iyo Xukuumadooda.

Xiinfaniinle Maybe because hassan and the HAG political party ignored Khatumo so ofcourse he will lash out on the policies of Mogadishu.

Am i crazy or is there some one singing in Aden:D