Alpha i forgot they have some tall cases like ina Bisad but its a bit to extreme:D

Most people in Burco have long faces and a fanax between their ilko long shoulders and not a big forehead In Ceerigaabo people have round faces very soft hair hardly no nappy hair most people are tall in ceerigaabo and have long hawk noses. Laascaanood look totally different most people in laascaanood are not skinny they are muscler young and old, you will hardly see a skinny reer laascaanood also the Hawk nose is present in Laascaanood. The South Hargeysa salaxlay aware look is a goldish look these people have brown eyes and are also muscler they are not skinny they have long faces some are tall some are normal lenth.They have a normal nose sometimes a hawk nose. Borama people are not tall not short in between, borama people look very different but the normal look of reer borame is soft hair brown skin sometimes very light skin. They have soft hair most of the time they are skinny not muscler. Hargeysa is a bit tall but they have also some shorties the hawk nose is not really there but there are some cases reer hargeysa have hawk noses. some have nappy hair most people there are skinny and a brownish look. Reer berbera are skinny short with hawk noses but very dark skin no nappy hair soft hair most of them.

Hargeysa look Borama look Salahlay Aware look Berbera Look Burco look ceerigaabo look Laascaanood look

I wouldn't celebrate to early Ethiopia might disintegrate in the future but they can also keep their unity we cant tell for sure. The united states are not good at predicting. But Ethiopia is a ticking time bomb ready to explode due to many factors. Ethnic tensions TPLF totalitarian control growing population religious tensions. The no peace no war situation with Eritrea and ofcourse poverty. If Amhaara take over they would transform Ethiopia better than the ruling Junta. The Amharas are ethnocentric folks and with their cultural imperialism in Ethiopia they define the Ethiopian National identity. The Ginbot if they take over they would reform the constitution remove ethnic federalism from the constitution. But there will never be a power vacuum in Ethiopia like in Somalia. They might be weakened politically and internally till the day of today 80% of the top generals of the army in Ethiopia are Amhaara The TPLF just replaced the top leadership to have firm control over the army. If the Amhaara remove the TPLF the oromos will follow their Amhaara masters. And the Amhaara will share power with the Oromo. But how it seems now the TPLF is still in full control lets see how it goes. After the TPLF gets rid of Wolayta boy Haile Mariam Deselegn. The Ethiopian Empire must be destablished but what will be the consequences. For us its good if Oromo becomes one country Amhaara becomes one country. Somali galbeed will be free. But the oromos are the one now that want to change Ethiopia and rule Ethiopia because of their demographic superior numbers over all the other ethnic groups lets see how it goes.

Could happen but the Ethiopians can prevent it to if they get rid of the TPLF regime.

Wadani;911973 wrote: This map is unjust. I don't think Khaatumo supporters on SOL would agree with it, or else they'd be doing exactly what their accusing Somaliland of doing. The most pro Khatumo website uses it as their background wallpaper on the famous www.allssc.com lol But i dont mind khatumo claiming burco though or maydh after all they are Somalilanders. Let salax claim taleex laascaanood and Naxanugaleed and Liibaan can claim hargeysa and berbera.

oba hiloowlow;911965 wrote: with due respect Liibaan sxb if that is the case how come Laascaanod is still under SL runtii i know if tolka is united nobody can't stop them. Khatumo is homegrown entity but the truth is the Somaliland people of the garaad clan and those from puntland were silenced . i remember how boqor dabagooye was told to stf. If they were smart they would have invited the likes of xaabsade and others and cabdisamad cali shire. And they could unite for the better of the clan.

STOIC;911958 wrote: I don't even know who lives in Western Sanaag..My reference point was the cities (or tullo for our pedantic Salax) that Khatumo clans own. Only a delusional Somalilander with symptomatic of a psycho-pathological disease might be fooled to think that this clan wants to be part of the secession. It is the apparent collective amnesia of Somalilanders that worries me. These people are fighting for their inalienable right to be same footing with the rest of Somali clan. Everyone wants to control his land.Every Somali wants to be the leader of his corner and I really don't see any reason to block their ambitions. They are NOT clay to be molded by the Somaliland potters hand.They want to be free and it will only create more problem for the already fragile Somaliland if they keep winning wars instead of peace! STOIC dont be so hard on Salax have u seen the Khatumo map they claim half of burco district here is their map lol

Suldaan Hilowle Suldaan Xeefoow Xuseen oo ah Gudoomiye ku xigeenka odayaasha dhaqanka Belaha HAG oo la hadlayay Warbaahinta ayaa wuxuu ka hadlay maamul u samaynta Jubooyinka, Wuxuuna kasoo horjeestay qaabka ay iminka u soconayso Maamul samaynta Jubooyinka. Wuxuu sheegay Suldaankaan HAG inaysan u dhamayn dadka daga deegaanada Jubooyinka qaabka maamulka loo samaynayo, wuxuna xusay niman gaara inay gacanta ku dhigeen awoodii Maamulka isla markaasina ay hadba dhankii ay rabaan wax u dhigayaan, arintaasi oo uu guul daro ku tilmaamay. Suldaanka ayaa sheegay Kooxaha Raaskambooni inay yihiin Jabhada kusoo duushay deeganadaasi isla markaasina aysan ahayn rag ay ka go’do talada deegaanada ay xoogga ku haystaan waa sida uu hadalka u dhigay Suldaan Hilowle. Hadalkani kasoo yeeray Gudoomiye ku xigeenka odayaasha dhaqanka Beelaha HAG ayaa imaanaya xili dhawaan la filaya inuu Magaalada Kismaayo ka furmo Shir la sheegay in Maamulka loogu samaynayay deegaanada Jubooyinka. http://www.toosiye.com/dhagayso-suldaan-hilowle-dadka-hada-kismaayo-jooga-dad-maamul-qaban-kara-maaha-sababtoo-ah-waa-hal-dhinac/

Qansax i think Somali is dad caanaha Soo maali jiray marki danbe dadki aan caanaha xita maali jirin ba loo bixiyey Soo maali.

Qansax did you figure out what Somali is yet:D

Deee Somali weyee lool

Somalilanders will overcome their problems but together we can reach our goals.

Xabad since Somaliland never signed or worked with Somalia on federalism or the so called road map or any other sort of federal framework with Somalia.We can say Somaliland is not involved in this. And the Somaliland and Somalia status and their future relations will be determined by the upcoming talks marka haka deg degin adeer.

State Department. Was this rushed and unexpected switch of US policy towards Somalia a quest by Hillary Clinton to leave a legacy behind and a personal attempt to clear her husband’s baggage with Somalia? 7 Time will tell or we would know it when some of the documents on Somalia are de-classified. Until then, the resumption of the relationship is a welcome matter for Somalia. Patching up a Fractured Society In his multiple speeches and presentations, President Hassan talked about security, what he called “a six-point plan” and his commitment to federalism. He often touched the right notes, like empowerment of the masses, cleaning up corruption and ending the nomenclature of “failed state” reserved for Somalia. Nonetheless, his rhetoric at times sounded as if they were directly borrowed from NGOs’ and PVOs’ text books; these phrases often mean nothing and amount to nothing more than well choreographed empty jargons and buzz words. What left a bad after taste, though, is that he rubbed sore spots by carelessly flirting with two issues that, one may assume, were meant to energize and ignite the passion of his political base. However, these comments gauge either his political naiveté or the political novice of his administration. First, he asked all Somalis to forget and forgive what had happened in the past and look to the future. But how can Somalis forget the bombardment of Hargaisa by South African piloted mercenaries, the poisoning of water wells of Mudug and Bari regions, or the massive accounts of atrocities of the 1990s civil war that professor Lidwien Kapteijins of Wellesley College details in her new book, “Clan Cleansing in Somalia: The Ruinous Legacy of 199a”? It is an impossible task for Somali to deliver to the President. Secondly and more gravely, what he said in reference to the conflict and brouhaha on the Jubaland that “a person who came from 1,000 Kilometer will not lead Jubaland’s governance,” 6 The Clinton administration, from 1993-1998 and the Bush Administration worked and armed various warlords, including Muse Suudi Yalaxow, Qanyare, Rage, and Mohamed Dheere whose might was broken and defeated by the Union of Islamic Courts. 7 In a recent interview with Somali Channel (dated January 19, 2013), Dr Ali Khalif Galydh, whose aptitude in reading the tea how the Western world operates, viewed the sudden and hastily orchestrated visit of the President of Somalia to Washington on the weekend of Obama’s inauguration for his second term, a period when Washington is close 5 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com or “Nin kun kilometer ka yimid uma ogalaanayno in uu dowlad u dhiso Jubooyinka” is troubling and divisive and a clear revisionist of Somali history and the oneness of the Somalia people. Who are these people he is talking about? His comments were interpreted differently by different people. Some even extended it to real persons. 8 Is he talking about the governor of Kismayo or the governor of Banadir (governor Tarzan) as both are transplanted from Qorahay and Mustaxiil, respectively? One can easily be persuaded that the President is not referring to the governor of Bandari (who was born in Mustaxiil) for he and said governor are political bedfollows from the same clan. His comments undoubtedly appear shrewd on the surface but have the malicious intent of “otheri-ing” some individuals while embracing others. If left unchecked, this witch-hunt and manipulation of Somalia’s lethal weapon called “clanism” could and may have serious import for the nation. One may ask: why is the President so passionate so publicly about Jubbland at this juncture in the history of this fractured country. The most obvious reason seems to be that may be, and only may be, he is trying to appeal to a radical constituent who hold him and his political views hostage to the days of the “ruinous” civil war of 1990s. 9 If so, one surmises that the President is playing the politics of “us versus them.” Instead of promoting wedge politics in public, the nation expects from him words of wisdom that call for “out of many, one,” or E PLURIBUS UNUM. Otherwise, division and wedge politics in Somalia will perpetuate the “failed state” status of the last 22 years. The Somali public must and shall demand public explanation or/and apology on this matter so that the President can move on to attend to the business for which the nation entrusted in him. The President, although most of the ideas he presented appealed to the peace-hungry masses, avoided certain key questions related to the looted/disputed properties in Mogadishu and the 8 It is also reported that a women’s group who met with him in Washington DC, in the hope of engendering peace and understanding between his camp and those who oppose him, came out with empty hand, disappointed. Some of them latter on shared their feelings and said that this President is travelling on a dangerous and unpredictable course. 9 A Somali parliamentarian who has met with him in Mogadishu informed this author that President Hassan appears to helplessly be a hostage to a radical group (clan and religious wise) that is literally suffocating him. The same parliamentarian, who empathizes with the President, informed me that President Hassan is aware of this suffocation and is looking for a safe way out before he get joked to death. 6 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com diversification of the administration of that city. A capital of the nation should smell and behave as a national mosaic city. If the President is not willing to clean up Mogadishu and reorganize it in the image of Somalia, then a national broad-based discourse of selecting the most appropriate National City is due. For the sake of patching up the fracture nation, the President shall attend to the following matters: 1. Establish an independent national commission, accountable to the President and the national parliament, to study and develop recommendations on how to address the question of looted/disputed private and public properties in Mogadishu. This issue should be dealt at three categories with each having a distinct timeline for research and resolution not necessarily in the following sequence: (a) residential properties; b) commercial properties; and © public owned land and buildings that are occupied illegally. 2. Impose a one-year moratorium on all disputed properties not to add, demolish or sell or put under escrow any disputed properties in Mogadishu until the results of the commission are in place. This will help stop the unregulated changes to looted/disputed properties and help reverse past trends resulted from the civil while ensuring that future investment in Mogadishu is safe and protected, 3. Draft a vision and a master plan showing the road map as to recreate a diversified Mogadishu so as to make it in the image of the nation, or recommend on the need to move the nation’s capital from Mogadishu. If Mogadishu stays the National City, it has to diversify its higher echelon of power seats. 4. Empower the people of Jubaland, Bay, Hiraan or any other entity in the country that is a member of the federal system without provoking one while endorsing another. In that connection, he also needs to apologize to the nation for his “other-ing” of some groups in the hope that he can re-unite the sprite of his nation. Without resolving these issues, the President’s cry for “one man one vote” is an unattainable mirage and an empty rhetoric. National traumas like the one that befall on Somalia can’t be wished away. The nation does not have a magic wand to wipe out pains of the past, and 7 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com therefore needs a workable reconciliation and recovery plan that mirror the above mentioned

Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan 1 By Faisal A. Roble Jan 24, 2013 ___________________________________________________________________________ Instead of promoting wedge politics in public, the nation expects from him words of wisdom that call for “out of many, one” or E PLURIBUS UNUM. President Hassan Mohamud’s visit to America during the week of January 16-19 could be viewed as an episodic opportune time albeit a challenging one. Following a highly visible visit with Secretary Hillary Clinton, a brief stint with President Obama, a robust discussion with the World Bank, a well-received presentation at Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIC), and a face-to-face clash with a vocal and well organized Diaspora Somalis, President Hassan would have enough on his plate once he reaches his tattered city of Mogadishu. The 21-year-old diplomatic hiatus between Somalia and the US came to an end on January 16, 2013. As a result, Somalia may have inched towards reversing the course of a “failed state.” The timely congratulatory note by the government of Puntland on the occasion of the resumption of diplomatic relationship by USA with Somalia is an indication of Puntland’s majority and dedication to the journey ahead. Puntland government also stressed that Somalia is country where the power is divided and so does it expect matters to remain. 2 1 My next article in this series would look at the reason why it is not the right time for lifting the arms embargo. Suffice here to quote my colleague Markus V. Hoehne, who wrote on Wardheernews.com: “it is also worth remembering that it was actually the western protected and armed regime of Mohamed Siyad Barre (1969-91) against which Somali guerrillas rose in the first place in the 1980s, and then the opening of the arms arsenal of the cold war (provided by the usual suspects) that led to the state collapse in Somalia.” 2 A press release by the government of Puntland said the following: “Puntland expects the Somali Federal Government to adhere to the country’s adopted Federal Constitution, fairly allocate share of international security sector support programs and planning to the regions of Somalia, advance completion of the federal system of government in Somalia, support formation of the remaining Federated States, promote genuine national reconciliation, establish the Upper 2 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com Somalia in the past has misused its access to international financial institutions and arms supplied by donor countries. The most recent past history of the 1990s civil war is a constant reminder that such a recognition given back to Hassan, if not handled well, could enhance the insecurity of its own citizens or even threaten the embryonic federal system. The absence of diplomatic recognition has not been the root cause of Somalia’s debacle. On the contrary, disunity and the manipulation of clan sentiments inside the country have always been the source of Somalia’s ills, and both disunity and clan politics still thrive. Alas, the pervasive disunity among the regions and clans is indeed worrisome and could wipe out this small gain which has temporarily blurred the underlying division of Somalis. 3 Sooner than later, the President better start assessing the challenges and complaints raised by dissenting Diaspora groups. 4 His attention to mending relations with critics and patching up his fractured society is the only way his office can regain the legitimacy it so cherished only few months ago, when millions of Somalis across the country accorded to him a broad-based support. Putting an end to his divisive rhetoric is as an urgent matter as any other issue in the country. Diplomatic Gains Wearing a reflexive and knee-jerk smiles and vocal ‘aahs” to denote agreement and satisfaction with his host, President Hassan stood tall, as did previous Somali leaders House of Federal Parliament to represent the Federated States in accordance with the constitution, and enact equitable distribution of international humanitarian and development assistance granted in the name of Somalia in a credible and transparent process. 3 If the country is not in peace with itself, international recognition, translated by Somalis as cash and military cache, could be more dangerous than expected. International recognition shall not be translated by recalcitrant leaders as “boor ahaw ama buur ku tiirso,” meaning, “You have to either be a power yourself or have a powerful friend”. Hassan Sheikh’s recent rhetoric on the Jubland region has immensely contributed to clan strife among Somalia’s disparate groups. 4 According to Minneapolis based TV footages, there were about 500-600 highly committed and foot soldiers who vocally demonstrated against the President’s visit. They claim that he is biased against certain groups of the nation and does undermine the local governance of the Jubaland regions; they also called for maintaining the arms embargo which the world imposed on Somalia following the vicious clan wars of the 1990s. 3 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com before the civil war, besides Secretary Clinton; he proudly accepted her proposal to resume the US diplomatic relationship with his country. He deservedly reveled and basked in the victory while meeting with different Somali Diaspora groups in Washington DC and in Minneapolis. This was a triumphant moment that should never result in a politics of triumphantalism. Without qualifying the President’s victory, one must recognize that he should have mentioned that this victory came on the heels of previous Transitional Governments’ leaders and the ground work they laid down for this moment to arrive. The President should have recognized them to show humility and maturity lest these attributes are important in politics. Unfortunately, the egoistic nature and his triumphalism stood in the way. 5 The suspension of the US-Somali diplomatic relation was precipitated by the botched Black Hawk Down in 1993 during President Clinton’s term. The ill-conceived mission to capture the late warlord Aidid Farah under a United Nations mandate (UNISOM 2) ended up in the killing of eighteen rangers whose dead bodies’ war gorily paraded in the streets of Mogadishu. That failed mission became a source of significant irritation and headache for the administration of President Clinton and his then Secretary for Defense, Les Aspen. As a result of his failed mission in Somalia, the late Secretary Aspen suffered a massive heart attack in the West Wing of the White House that ultimately claimed his life. Some even attributed his death to his failure and stress associated with the failed Somalia mission. President Clinton on his part ordered afterwards his aids to never raise the Somali issues in the White House corridors. Somalia became a “dirty” word not to be uttered in his presence. The Clintons have had something akin to a hate-love-relationship with Somalia. While President Clinton never felt comfortable with Somalia, even when he authorized 26,000 troops to be sent there or working through warlords in the 1990s, his wife, Secretary Clinton, empathized with 5 The renewed reengagement of Somalia by the US government would have been impossible without several factors, including the role the late Abdulahi Yusuf played in the “war on terror,’ the massive and valuable intelligence materials Sharif Ahmed passed on to the CIA and Puntland’s and Somaliland’s unquestionable ability to stabilize their respective regions,4 Diplomatic Gains and Disunited Somalis: Challenges to President Hassan By Faisal A. Roble Copyright © 2013 WardheerNews.com Somali indigents, especially the week and the women. 6 That empathy was feasible on her tiredlooking face when she delivered the congratulatory news to President Hassan at the lawn of the recommendation. Faisal A. Roble

Federalism could have worked in Somalia if created states of mixed clan territories for instance Nugaal Bari Mudug Galguduud Hiiraan Shabelede dhexe Shabelede hoose Bay Bakool Gedo Jubada dhexe Jubbada hoose Banadir Federal zone If people did that you will have mixed states and it will create a healthy living society Federalism is not bad but if its implemented in the correct way it can work.

In a normal Country yes but in a society as that of Somalia where clan is everything and people are suspicious and distrust each other. You will hear elders screaming we are guarding the clan interest. Clan identity is stronger than National interests. So people prefer clan federalism Carafaat you know i am against clan federalism. But let people experiment with the clan federalism project and when it doesn't work. They can always say we tried it didn't work.

lol@ Buun i need to try that stuff:D

Problem carafaat is that Jubada dhexe is very mixed territory. While the lower jubba is predominately Azania territory, so the lower jubba and gedo are forced to make a state. But knowing the clan dynamics and the rivalries between these 2 clans its hard for them to compromise. Thats why right now they are cooking a sub clan conference in Garowe Faroole is hosting this special conference. The Mayor of garisa was invited he is currently in garowe. The president of the liyuu police Ileey might also come and Professor Gandi is also invited. Axmed blackie how ever is not coming he preferred dealing with HAG instead. And they might reach an agreement he is due to arrive in Xamar soon.

Oba never promote HAG on HAG violence, if there are any HAG problems you need to sort that out diplomatically

He is referring to SL speaker of Parliament Abdiraxmaan Ciiro

Ma shinbir bu dabada ka nuugaya wamaxay waxasi

Taleexi;911712 wrote: Hooyooyinka afkaaga ka jeedi never the less this is a good development. Xaasha nin weyn baan ahay hooyo waxba kama sheegin ,slaamoyinka oo dhan ya ku yidhi hooyooyin weye imisa ayaan waxba dhalin.

Madaxweynihii Hore Ee Maamulka Galmudug Oo Safar Ku Jooga Magaalada Hargeysa Iyo Su’aalaha Socdaalkiisa La Iska Weydiinayo Ma jiro war rasmi ah oo la xidhiidha safarka siyaasigani Hargeysa ku joogo, laakiin......... Hargeysa (GNS) - Madaxweynihii hore ee maamul goboleedka Somaliya ee Galmudug Mr. Maxamed Warsame Kiimiko, ayaa safar ku jooga magaalada Hargeysa ee caasimadda Somaliland. Mr. Kiimiko, hadda wax xil ah ma hayo, waase siyaasi dhalasho ahaan ka soo jeeda Beelaha HAG ee dalka Somaliya. Ma jiro war rasmi ah oo la xidhiidha safarka siyaasigani Hargeysa ku joogo, laakiin dhawrkii maalmood ee u dambeeyay ayuu ku sugnaa caasimadda Hargeysa. Wargeyska Geeska Afrika oo isku dayay inuu Mr. Kiimiko wax ka weydiiyo socdaalkiisa Hargeysa, ayaa ka gaabsaday inuu saxaafada la hadlo. Waxase la ogyahay in Mr. Kiimiko sannadkii 2006 ay dawladii Madaxweyne Rayaale ka celisay madaarka Hargeysa, isagoo doonayay inuu soo galo gudaha caasimadda isagoo ahaa Madaxweynaha Galmudug. Madaxweynihii hore ee Galmudug maanta ayuu ka dhoofayaa dalka. Mr. Kiimiko, oo muddo dheer dawladii Siyaad Barre ka ahaan jiray wasiirka ganacsiga, waxa la sheegay inay xilligaas saaxiibo dhow ahaayeen Madaxweyne Axmed Maxamed Siilaanyo. Lamana oga inuu la kulmay qaar kamid ah masuuliyiinta dawladda Somaliland mudadan uu Hargeysa joogay.