HAG wa xisbi eeh maha qabil sida dam jadiid , caydu wa calyo waliga nin weyn Nacasnimo lugu ma sheego xita hadadan fikirkisa la qabin.

:D Walahi Somali politics is not fun with out Faroole

Somalia;914625 wrote: So you are saying the equation will be like this; PL + O community + (inta la gumeesado aka Sijuii) vs KH + HAG + Gedo + (ASWJ + Al Ittihad 2.0) + Unuka and D&M party will decide the > or < ? And Are you saying the prime minister of Somalia is a tool for HAG? Its Puntland Azanians versus HAG gedo aswj Galmudug dam jadiid Unuka Other players are Uganda Burundi Djibouti Ethiopia Kenya Alshabaab I cant decide whether khatumo supports hassan and HAG or not last time i was listening to galaydh he was not to happy with Hassan, I will say they are a bit neutral The prime minister is not a tool for HAG but the man doesn't know his duties he is the prime minister not a ceremonial vice president

Caydu wa ceeb haatuyow laga fiican

Faroole: Somaliland aanu wada hadalno oo aan heshiino laga yaabee inaan isla Go’no! Madaxweynaha Puntland Cabdiraxmaan Faroole oo ugu baaqay Somaliland inay la heshiiso Puntland, halka uu digniin u diray Dowlada Federaalka inaysan ku xadgudbin Dastuurka Federaalka.| on February 1, 2013 Madaxweynaha Dowlada Puntland Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Faroole oo khudbad dheer kasoo jeediyey Shirka Urur Siyaasadeedkiisa uga furmay magaalada Garowe ayaa ka hadlay in wadahadalo u socdaan Puntland iyo Somaliland, isagoo ugu baaqay maamulka Soomaaliland inay heshiiyaan. Madaxweyne Faroole ayaa khudbadiisa ku sheegay in arrimaha Gooni isu taaga Soomaaliland ay tahay mid mar danbe laga hadli doono, balse marka hore ay gudboontahay in Puntland iyo Somaliland dhexdooda wadahadalaan oo ay heshiiyaan, wuxuuna sheegay inay hada socdaan wadahadalo hoose. Madaxweyne Faroole ayaa dhinaca kale digniin u diray Dowlada Federaalka oo uu sheegay in Xukuumadiisa aysan iska eegan doonin iyadoo lagu tumanayo Dastuurka Federaalka Soomaaliya. Dhageyso Madaxweynaha Puntland oo ka hadlayey arrimaha Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa yiri: “…Ma jireyso in lagu tunto Dastuurka (Federaalka) anagana (Puntland) aan iska eeganeyno…Anagu diyaar baan u nahay in dowlada Federaalka ah ee Kumeel gaarka ah, maye hada kumeel gaar ma ahee Dowladee waxaa Kumeel gaar ah Dastuurka, diyaar baan u nahay inaan la shaqeyno balse inay (Dowlada Federaalka) tiraaho inagaa wax walba sameenayna Laga yeeli maayo, Anaga ka yeeli meyno, Adduunka ka yeeli maayo, Soomaalina ka yeeli meyso….” Dhinaca kale Madaxweynaha Puntland oo ka hadlayey Baaqa uu u dirayo Somaliland ayaa yiri: “…Qolooyinka (Somaliland) iyagu hada tashaday oo gooni aaday, anaguna malihin kaalaya khasab baanu idinku heysanayaan, Laakiin waxa naga dhaxeeya aan ka heshiino Bal waxa kale waa la isugu imaan doonaayee..Waxbaa naga Dhexeeya…” [sacabka Taageerayaasha] “….Reer Baadiyaha waxay yiraahaan [Oodo dhacameed siday u kala korreeyaan baa loo qaadaa], Anaga (Somaliland iyo Puntland) horta khilaafkeena aan meel dhigno, Marka HADALO way iska soc socdaan, bal aan meel wax isla dhigno….Ama isla go’nay Ama aan heshiinay, Ama Soomaali kuwada biirnay Ama Waa la wada kala tagay….” Hadalka Madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa kusoo beegamaya xili ay u dhamaatay 4tii sano ee xilka loo dhaariyey. Madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa wakhtigii uu qabanayey Xilka sheegay inuu arrinta gobalada Sool, Sanaag iyo Cayn ee Somaliland ku sugan tahay gaar ahaan magaalada Laascaanood uu kusoo afjari doono muddo sanad gudaheed ah. Xili Xukuumada Puntland ay sheegtay in hirgelineyso nidaamka Asxaabta badan ayaa waxaa qodobada kamid ah shuruudaha ururada Siyaasada lagu xiray kamid ah in ay ururada xafiisyo ka sameystaan dhamaan gobalada Puntland iyo degmooyinka ay ka dhacayaan doorashooyinka Golaha deegaanka oo ay ku jiraan Laascaanood iyo magaalooyin kale oo ay hada ka arrimiso Somaliland. Ururka Horsed ee uu Madaxweynaha Puntland hogaamiya ayaa lagu wadaa in todobaadkan ay xafiis ka furtaan magaalada Boocame maadaama inta kale ee gobalka Sool ay hada ugu gacan jirto maamulka Somaliland iyo Khaatumo. Todobaadkan ayaa banaanbax weyn oo ka dhacay Buuhoodle ay shacabka ku diideen in magaaladaasi laga furo xafiiska xisbiga xukuumada Puntland. Wada hadalka Somaliland iyo Federaaalka Soomaaliya Waxaa horey ugu socdey Somaliland iyo Dowladda Federaalka ah wada hadal kaas oo ka kala dhacay Magaalooyinka London iyo Dubai, Somaliland waxay shuruud uga dhigtey in wada hadalkaas laga saaro wasiiro ka socdey Puntland oo asal ahaan ka soo jeeda Sool & Sanaag, Madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa sheegay in wada hadal u dhexeeya Dowladda Federaalka ah ee Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland oo aysan Puntland ku jirin uu yahay mid aan waxba ka jirin waxbana ka soo baxayn. Dhawaan ayaa lagu wadaa in wada hadalkii dib u furmo iyada oo maamulka Puntland aanu ka hadlin sida uu uga hadley kii hore, waxaana xusid mudan in Dowladdii Shiikh Shariif ay oggoleyd in Miiska wada hadalka ay soo fariistaan Puntland. Yaa mudan in lala hadlo Khaatumo mise Somaliland? Banaanbixii Buuhoodle ee looga soo horjeeday Xukuumada Faroole [29 Jan 2013] Inkastoo Madaxweynaha Puntland uu baaq u diray maamulka Soomaaliland oo isagu gooni isu taagay isla markaan aawood militari kula wareegay goobihii horey Puntland uga talin jirtay, ayaan hadana Madaxweynaha wax baaq ah u dirin maamulka Khaatumo oo ay sameysteen dadka ku dhaqan gaar ahaan gobalada Sool iyo Cayn, kuwaasi oo kamid ahaa dadkii wax ka dhisay Puntland balse hada sheegay inay ka baxeen maamulkii ay kamid ahaayeen ee Puntland. Dhanka kale waxaa xusid mudan Madaxweyne kuxigeenka Puntland Gen.Cabdisamad Cali Shire oo isaguna kamid ah ururka Madaxweyne Faroole sameystay ayaan ka hadlin arrimaha gobalada uu kasoo jeedo. Gen.Cabdisamad ayaa sidoo kale ka hadlin dagaalkii ka dhacay magaalada uu kasoo jeedo ee Xudun oo ay Somaliland ciidamo iyo sanaadiikha codbixinta usoo dirtay doorashadii bishii November 2012, halkaasi oo dagaal ku dhexmaray ciidamada Khatumo iyo Somaliland ka dhashay khasaaro dhimasho iyo dhaawac isugu jira, iyada oo dagaalkii u danbeeyey dhacay todobaadkii hore. Cabdirisaaq Maxamed Horseed Media

Dee Fazwiya HAG Ba qabe eh reer xididkeeday u shaqeynaysa iyada ba sheegtey eh

Taleexi what about Xildhibaan kooreyee you're uncle he believes he is representing you're people should the guurti expel him from Hargeysa?

Muxu yidhi ninki jiray waxanu nahay nimanka cadceed iyo cadceed degey carada aan cayimneeyne.

I believe the khatumo folks started off in SL than they formed a broader clan based state on lineage with Puntland but they felt dissatisfied with Puntland and a whole faction of them joined Somaliland, which caused the fall of laascaanood in the SL hands. I believe The SL govt just needs to build bridges and open talks with the khatumo folks i am sure they have no different aspirations than the rest of the SL people. Its not like they were living as Kings during the failed union of 30 years nor did their regions have more prosperity than other regions of SL.

Somaliland is very diverse most clans live together in those regions sool and sanaag and dont be fooled by the anti SL stance by the Khatumo folks the vast majority support SL but they dont like Siilaanyo and the current regime

STOIC;914528 wrote: Warya XX educate me here without any bias.I'm completely ignorant of the Somaliland locals except of course big cities like Hargeisa and Borame etc....I always hear them (Prof Galayadh camp) say Sool and Sanaag is ours..I'm not doubting the Sool portion (am guesing Lasacanood included) .So this Sanaag place has people with the colorful SL flag ? ..I did a little search and Found out that these are people that live there...Which side of Sanaag do they live? Awdal is mostly lived by the Borama clan while the selel district belongs mostly to the jesus clan of Djibouti. The sool region predominantly belongs to the khatumo folks except the caynabo district. And western and central sanaag predominately belongs to the clan who live as far as midisho which is about 40 km east of ceerigabo capital of sanaag. The khatumo folks also live in Sanaag but mostly in the south eastern Sanaag, and the far eastern Sanaag region Yube laasqooray badhan dhahar hadaaftimo xingalool is a very big territory belongs mostly to the Maakhir clan. So you see Somaliland is very diverse and multi tribal and all communities live together in those regions sool and sanaag.

Amuusnantu wa aqbalaad waliga manad maqlin:D Iga dabe dhex taleexiyow Ingriis ha dhaco ingriis ha dhaco Ingriis ha dhaco Boqoradu ingriisku faalij ha ku dhaco Prince Charles gaadhi hala rogmado Prince William talibantu ha disho

Ingriiso Guriga Ba mar hadi darawiishti xita pro ingriis noqdeen 2013:D

Taleexi i don't condone violence against innocent civilians, but you are portraying a very one sided picture afcourse in a conflict between 2 armed groups casualties are a fact no one can deny. But to say that Somaliland armed forces killed students than that is wrong i have not heard about that incident i remember though there was an incident in laascaanood i think in 2011 and riots broke out and police shot at people and one kid got killed and that was unfortunate but he was not targeted because he belonged to a certain clan. The same thing happened twice in hargeysa just 2 months ago and in borama and seylac. And it happened all over Somaliland the only thing we can do now is to prevent it from happening and ofcourse the needed equipment as tear gas rubber bullets is needed in such a situation. This how ever cannot be compared to a war that happened in the south of Somalia were armed groups targeted innocent civilians and that was the whole point.

:D

^^ Maad qayilaysey taleexi maxaad u so mudaharadi weydey ingriiski ba dalkeena wax ka sheegey eh, sawdinki ingriiska necba ?

^^ Taleexi thats bit of exaggeration on you're side the recent conflicts were between an armed group Khatumo and before that SSC and the SL armed forces. It was not a clash between unarmed civilians and armed Military forces. You're description is totally out of context in this case.

Wadani;914501 wrote: There were a few battles, but they were between snm and pro-kacaan clans. Snm never engaged in killing of civilians on account of their clan. All ilma-jabarti were forgiven, this is documented history. We forgave, even though we suffered worse than the usc, with hargaysa and burco being bombed to the ground. I think we deserve some credit for this gobanimo. The SNM wanted to build a new country from scratch that included all the other clans in Somaliland, why take revenge if you want to create a healthy foundation of a new country.It was the most responsible thing to do when SNM captured from lawyacade to the outskirts of Xingalool, why do you need further clashes than shortly the reconciliation conference for the people of Somaliland Began. Thats how you keep the brother hood it was a wise thing to do and the SNM doesn't need to be given credit for that.

Wadani;914467 wrote: So wat do u suggest? R u saying we don't need national reconciliation on a grand scale? Reconciliation needs to happen the Somali conflict is a long one a long civil war of 21 years what about reer shabeelada hoose and their grievances the Somali civil war was fundamentally different than the hutu and tutsi conflict. It needs a different approach but reconciliation is inevitable .

I am pretty dacaad Somalidu haday raban inay isi samaxaan wa in la iska saamaxo wixi ka dhacay 2006 1991 wuxu wa inay dheeli tirnadaan hadaad laakin tidhahdid waxba ma jiraan oo cidna lama dilin dee dadku isku ma so dhowaan karan. Hadaad tidhahdiid waligeen ba nabad baynu ahayn dadku na beerkay isku hayaan dee wa khiyaali, dadka siday iskugu so dhawaan karan waxa weye in xanuunki dhacay 1991 la dhayo iyo ti dhacday 2006 la dhayo dabeedna Somalidu isku so dhowadaan oo ay heshiyaan dalkooda iyo dadkooda dhistaan oo umada calaamka la jaan qadan hormarku iyo cadalaadu taasay ku jirta.

Wadani;914459 wrote: That's exactly my point xaaji. If they could get passed it, we definitely can. Every side just needs to admit their crimes and sincerely seek the forgiveness of their victims. Their hatred was planted by the Belgium colonialists , Somali tribes are not like that Somalis need to impose different methods of understanding. By the way the Tutsis are building a Kingdom in Rwanda lol almost ruling more than a decade.

Actually they came from the north Mait city to be exactly the holy town

oba hiloowlow;914456 wrote: Ii wad sheekada. Oba you have a hard time to forgive and to forget , people just dont forget and forgive by uttering those words , it needs to be done practically and than can come if you talk about the past problems.

No one said that turks are welcome we were friends since the 16 century the fine architectural old buildings were build by the Turks our relations go way back. And if they want to help Somaliland with some projects than they are welcome.

This is hutu radio kill all those tall cockroaches, these people were a bit extreme with their machetes there was so much pathological hatred between the tutsi and hutus. I dont think the hatred between the Somali tribes was that extreme.