Haatu;915306 wrote: Keligood socon kari mayso. Ayadoon meelna gaarin ayey lumi, kolkaasna HAG u doonan magangalyo. Hence the desperation :D:D

Somalia should have capable armed forces to defend its territories from external enemies and to safe guard its citizens but it doesn't need a huge huge army like in the 70s, its not like Somalia is going to war with Ethiopia or Kenya.

Maya waxa weye hadal oday ka waran hadu oday kale is yidha koodhkaaga koodhkisa ku nabo oo yidha aynu isku mar socono, wax caqliga galaya maha. Budhlayn haday meel aadayso kaligeed ha aado:D

nuune;915043 wrote: This is what I want Somalia to have, if I become a defense minister or some sort, I will bring these into the country,or have them factory inside the country to manufacture them: for army transport,it can take up to 600 soldiers, or 800 and finally, some shiidh stuff. The onyl way to get respect is to arm yourself first! Yaad ku dagalamaysa waxaaso hub ah?

Samafal Faisal wuxu idinku yidhi waxba ha isku kaya xoq xoqin faroolow , dadkaga dhinac ka raac, Faisal can see through you:D

No we are not walaalo you're walaalos are the HAGs in Mogadishu go and make peace with them, just because it turned a bit tough the past few months and the HAG refused you to play with them. That doesn't give you the right to secede never flirt with secession idea's you're country needs you, treenku yanu ka tegin.

Ooh you mean liberation of baardheere well i am not sure Barre is not a member of the Somalia army he was a freelance warlord and got lots of assistance and logistics from the ethiopians. His clan is against a clan state in Kismayo before the regions of gedo are fully liberated and middle juba.

Burco Hargeysa

Maybe its the capital of his country

http://caasimada.com/bare-hiiraale-oo-war-culus-ka-dhawaajiyay/

No time for lifting the Arms Embargo: A call for the gradual and total Demilitarization of Somalia By Dayib A. Atto Feb 03, 2013 The idea of talking about a 'demilitarization’ at this point with the nation still engaged in a war against a terrorist criminal organization may sound to be a bit out of sync with reality, but its precisely because nobody is even considering to look at the big Somali picture from this angle that I'm willing to commit a heresy and call for the total demilitarization of the Somali nation. Terabytes of ink has been spilled analyzing the causes of the problems that Somalia is facing today and the solutions proposed for solving them are indeed too many, so I am not going to say much along those lines, rather what I am going to write is about the issue relating specifically to Clanism and Militarism while trying to provide a logical proof on how the two cannot coexist within the confines of a Nation without causing a destructive reaction - a good analogy for this proof is like trying to violate the laws of physics by attempting to make Petrol and Fire coexist peacefully in a bottle. Since in Somalia Clanism has proven to be manifestly stronger than Nationalism, the establishment of a National Army is therefore incompatible with the Somali clanish reality. I see no way around this, either the loyalty to the clan or the armed forces, one of these two has to go, and since objects are easier to discard than ideas, the military instrument is a perfect candidate to let go away and the fact that at the moment we are fortunately at a stage where no strong national army exists will make the job much easier. All we have to do now is to simply not rebuild that army and let it fade away. The current nascent federal government should resist and reject the reptilian calls to rebuild and resuscitate the dead monster that has been the Somali Armed Forces again. This government should remember and learn from history, we should all realize that the armed forces have never been a force for good to our nation. The Somali military has always been a net taker, a voracious and wasteful drainer of the meager resources of the nation, a bully and a source of nothing but a dictatorship, warlords and disastrous wars and destruction for Somalia. The military has never produced a single thing of beneficial use for the nation, they didn’t even bother to learn how to make a single bullet, their whole existence was based on the fallacy of defending the nation with imported donations of guns and surplus and obsolete military equipment from foreign countries. The military has also been the Trojan horse through which foreign powers have come into the country to manipulate our internal politics for their diabolical strategic geopolitical interests during the Cold War, with the disastrous consequences that are still reverberating in our society to this day. The irony of all ironies is the fact that the current war against the Terrorists is being won with the help of the neighboring countries, the very same countries that we were told the National Army was supposed to defend us from. Its for this reason that I have come to the conclusion that the long term interest of the Somali nation is to become demilitarized, starting with the gradual reorientation of our entire security apparatus to a professional police and coast guard forces. Once freed from the burden of maintaining a parasitic standing army, Somalis could concentrate their efforts on matters of economic, industrial and educational development.

Faisal has no problem though if PL breaks away on their own terms as long as they dont want to join SL Somalia why would you break away from you're own country remember you're leaders have build Somalia how will you view than you're hero cabdilahi Yusuf no my friend you need to stay with you're HAG countrymen.

Xisbiga Kulmiye Oo Munaasibad Soo Dhawayn Ah Ku Qaabilay Urur Siyaasadeedka RAYS Oo Maanta La Midoobay. Hargeysa (Ramaas) Febr 3,2013 – Munaasibad maanta lagu qabtay huteelka Maansoor ee Magaalada Hargeysa, ayaa waxa lagaga dhawaaqay Midowga Xisbiga Kulmiye iyo urur siyaasadeedkii doorashada ku hadhay ee RAYS. Munaasibadan oo ahayd mid si weyn looga soo shaqeeyay, ayaa labada dhinac ee KULMIYE iyo RAYS waxay ku kala saxeexdeen heshiis qeexaya saamiga ay ku kala leeyihiin xisbiga Kulmiye oo ah ka lagu midoobay. Munaasibada ay ku midoobeen Kulmiye iyo RAYS, ayaa waxa hadalko ka soo jeediyay Masuuliyiinta labada dhinac, kuwaasi oo isku bogaadiyey midnimadooda. Guddoomiyaha xisbiga Kulmiye Muuse Biixi Cabdi oo halkaasi ka hadlay ayaa soo dhaweeyay ururka RAYS ee la midoobay Kulmiye, waxaanu yidhi “Anaga oo markii aynu tartamaynay iyo markii dambaba naawilaynay inuu ILAAHAY isku keen soo celiyo oo aynu mar uun midowno, haddii aad taa naga yeesheen aad iyo aadbaad u mahadsan tihiin, waanuna idinka guddoonay, waxaanan ILAAHAY ka baryayaa inaynu guul wada gaadhno” Waxa isaguna halkaasi ka hadlay Guddoomiyaha ururka RAYS Xasan Gaafaadhi, waxaanu sheegay inuu aad ugu faraxsan yahay midowga la midoobeen xisbiga Kulmiye.

Sultan faisal very simple Faroole dont try to associate you're self with us Somalilanders if you want to break away from Somalia than do it on you're own terms , he gave a little advise on clan federalism. He said that we will be neighbors with Puntland regional state but Puntland is part of Somalia 2 regions and a half. He said we also have boundaries and social coexistence and relations with Kilinka shanaad.

I am not being delusional these are just the facts well ofcourse if SL regards its self part of Somalia than you were correct if you even listen to the lyrics Dhulka wala tolaya xagee laga kala tolaya wa xuduuda SL iyo Somalia. Now how can you call that regional:D

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^^ If they accept to be under Somalia than they are if they are not than they are not very simple

^^ Why do you think oromos have better habits than their other countrymen

^^ Somaliland songs are not are not regional songs.

The Islamic republic of Iran is a great nation of great people with a great civilization and despite all the sanctions its doing pretty good Economically and Militarily

Indhasheel ma sheegin taas cali khalif galaydh xita reer woqoyinimada ama Somaliland ma diidin hasa yeeshe wuxu yidhi lanama qasbi karo dee wa caaadi cidna ku qasbi mayso:D inagu wax weyn isku ma hayno taleexiyow let me deal with the koonfurians first.

^^ Well there were not many problems between the former Somali republic and Ethiopia ,except for the O'gaden region. Somalia officially respect that the O'gaden region is part of Ethiopia, there is no much of a problem these days between the 2 countries. Lets see how that goes and how long it will last.

As long as Buhoodle is in togdheer uga baqan mayo xamar taleexiyow:D manad dhegeysan siilaanyo if it takes us 100 years:D

Somaliland going to Mogadishu lol 22 years and counting and people still have hope:D