He is not a bad leader matter infact he is a very good leader for djibouti By the way the way opposition is also from the jesus clan u don't know what ur talking about And four point five is not a bad system.

I dont think for the Somalilanders it matters since they want to be their independent republic the Somaliland republic now has 12 regions , but this is more of a concern for those in Puntland and Jubbaland

Walalaaha galguduud versus walaalaha kenya

Somalia;923547 wrote: Well, he's an old man so I find this very unjustified, that's why this kacaan man has escaped the wrath of my keyboard. So old men should be excused , slobadan Milosevic should have been excused to right he was an old man the same as sadam hussein he was old to with a big grey beard

He is facing some opposition since the last parliamentary elections , people want to reject his rule of power in Djibouti the People's Rally for Progress party wont he majority of the votes and the international observers said it was fair. Now people are running on the streets opposing the out come lets pray for our brother that he remains to rule republique de Djibouti for as long as he lives.

HAG is based in America while Sahal is based in the UK, SAHAL waxay sahlayan mamuul goboleedyada Puntland Jubbaland:D sahal is just to stop HAG nothing else.

:D:D

if you you adopt the 8 regions than that means you have killed clan federalism, because no clan can dominate each of the regions to form a state , so this will not work Puntland and Jubbalanders do not want this.

Nuune HAG are an organization in the west a lobby group similar to the aipac, and they support the interest of the HAG people , people of HAG ancestry in Somalia , there are some accusation that they have influences in the current goverment of Somalia. Not sure if there are evidences the HAG manifesto wanted to create a HAG dominated country from galkacyo to the Kenyan border. Sahal doesn't agree with this and are supporters of an autonomous jubbaland state and Puntland autonomous state.

Che -Guevara;923522 wrote: If you don't, why all the fuss? We dont care about him we care about the injustice he did to the people and that needs to be corrected, i could care less about him.

Haatu;923417 wrote: ^You're a poor confused fellow who believes he's a Hashimite when genetic evidence says otherwise. Who will believe a word you say, yaa Haashimi? Do you know the genetics of the Hashimites ,no you dont because some carry the E1B1C particularly the royals in morocco and UAE some carry the J1 some the J2 Haplogroups , but forget about the hashimite ancestry or anything related to that We have no clue about this history we talk about because Somalis are a oral society we have know real written history, this all speculation, and the Land of the Punt is not just Somalia, its just parts of Puntland Somaliland Djibouti and Eritrea and parts of northern Ethiopia , its not just something of Somalis. No my friend Somali history began after islam as we know it and thats when the real Somalis were shaping their true identity.

oba are you calling for war:D

^ Who cares about him its all about justice he will die soon to no immunity will give the war criminal ever dignity, somalia as a former ssdf dhafoorqiiq you sure love the former kacaan generals:D

Welcome to the real world HAG will defend the minority hagist in jubbaland the sahal will say majority rules minority rights jubbaland is ours , haa dhakhleyso

Che -Guevara;923507 wrote: Good....No government apologizes or assumes responsibility for any crimes it might have committed. I don't see any Somali Government that will do such thing. And definitely, no Somali Government will agree to secession. Listen to Oodweyne, the old man knows what he's talking about! No one wants them to apologize but obviously this goverment is not as the same as the general siyad bares goverment , they just had to stay away from this particular case and be neutral. As for Somaliland statehood, they dont have to agree, for as i care its not their call, they dont own the land Somalilanders do

Odey;923505 wrote: Be careful what you wish for and thanks!, Now I know they live out there, You can be sure the Collective Might of the Rest of Somalis will come to play shortly and you shall see many Somalilanders standing trial. Let the games begin. For the moment we will defend The good General I am not against that sue them if you think you have a case get it done get justice all of that i am for it , but dont try to say general samatar is innocent , if you think SNM or any other Somaliland general colonel did you wring sue them

Somalia;923502 wrote: They are looking for our sympathy not really no one wants garowe clan enclave sympathy ,eventhough faroole ur uncle made it clear several times that he was against the afweyne regime atrocities in Somaliland

Saalax;923488 wrote: Odey As said Tanzania is already dead. The only one fooling themselves is you if you think Somaliland is a province, Somalia officials are arrested,humiliated and deported if they set foot in Somaliland. That sure doesn't sound like the same "country". :D

Tallaabo;923496 wrote: First tell us about these crimes. What are they? Who carried them out? When and where did they take place? Who were the victims? good question but if the SNM killed his people why doesn't he sue them there are some SNM members living in the west

Che -Guevara;923493 wrote: You don't get it, do you? I get it all the message is clear che:D

Well that's clan federalism, you cannot restrict a big foot from garisa from kismayo ,the same way abwaan and his folks claim xamar. Somalis are not loyal to nationalities but they are loyal to their tribe

Odey;923485 wrote: nop, not related to him either. I take it you are looking for an angle. In your crazy world there has to be blood relations before one stands up for justice? So what about the justice of those general samatar murdered defense minister vice president, because you keep talking about Somaliland generals and colonels as if they did anything , if you think they killed you're people than please be welcome sue them

Salax this is just good , we just know how the goverment in Mogadishu really thinks about the war, its just good it just opens the minds of many good on the SL government.

Odey;923473 wrote: why are you asking me about Morgan and Maslax, I am not related to them lol! ;) So are you related to general samatar why are you defending him

Odey;923458 wrote: This is a sad case to be honest. As If rear Somaliland did not cause atrocities during the Siyaad Barre Era. Shall we list them here? Dhagaweeyne and Tanzania were instrumental in the massacres in Mudug which by some estimates were a lot higher than the whole of Somaliland. This being just a few of them. Let us not also forget Reer Somaliland made up the largest number in the Military Junta that sat just below Siyaad Barre. Ali Samatr was but one of these guys. Talk about pot calling the kettle black!. If justice is what you want, remember the rest of Somalis also faced similar if not worse fate during those years and you were integral part of the system. A lot of your kin will be in the dock shortly. Open up pandora's box at your own peril. The only reason you are picking on this chap is because his family is not amongst the big Tribes of Somalia or you would have had a huge response by now. I wholeheartedly support the government in their attempt to help General Ali Samatar. Either justice for all, or none! Well first of all colonel tanzani is dead and dhagoweyne if you want him than sue him did he kill you're people sue him tell me who is stopping you