Haatu i didn't say that, thats what HAG says xaad iyo odayga guurtida beelaha HAG ba waxa yidha Axmed Diiriye not Xaaji Xunjuf

Thats the hypocracy of Somalis one support Ethiopia and says Kenya should stay away the other says Uganda is good , Kenya is bad i used to think those who opposed Kenya were doing it because Kenya wants the waters of Somalia allegedly and there were rumors. But they do it because they think that Kenya is supporting the opposite clan they are feuding with.

HAG considers Jubbaland the promised land just like how sahal believes its theirs. Maybe we should suggest a 2 state solution:D Sahal believes they are the majority in the region thus they should be the decision makers and the HAG minority should follow.But HAG believes Sahal are intruders in Jubbaland and are being assisted and helped by Kenya , the Kikuyu nation whom Sahal has great relations with and ucondional support. HAG believes that Jubbaland is their ancestral home land, where as Sahal believe its also theirs., HAG is claiming that the HAG community was ousted from the Jubba region by the various SAHAL dominated governments in the 70s and 80 and that they manipulated the demographics in the region with huge influx of Sahal settlers from other parts of east Africa. HAG according to them want to set the record straight and make sure the HAG community is well represented.

http://www.togdheernews.com/v2/?p=40880 So qatar is mediating lets hear oodweyne's feedback the SL goverment hasn't responded so far.

Article talks about that there are similarities between ancient Egyptians and the people who live in the Somali peninsula , but that doesn't mean Somalis are related to ancient Egyptians nor were the people in the land of the gods called Somalis , nor was it exclusively the Somali peninsula , there was lots of trading between the ancient Egyptians and those in the land of the gods. So people often used each other customs, thats all. And i do agree with the article that not all Somalis are Somali by customs not all of them are xoolo dhaqato , Somali are Biyo maaal some are Tu maal , i agree with that part. Marka niyo taarikhda Somalida iyo waxan meesha ku qoran wax is leh adeer maha, dadkan identity crisis baba ku dhacday:D

Carafaat stop you're nonsense President ismaciil cumar geele is in full control he arrested those trouble makers Long live president geele and the people of Djibouti

Somalia;923617 wrote: It's not the same. 1. It's selective justice. You are not putting people on trial who are in your own 'country', yet you want others to stand trial. In Somaliland, you've given asylum to members of the Kacaan while wanting to prosecute others, I find this very troubling. 2. He is a frail and truly powerless man. 3. Because the only one who seem to target is from a minority clan, it makes it even worse because you don't target other members such as General Morgan who is living in Kenya, why is that? Mr Morgan was head of operations, he carried out many of the tasks! As the offspring of true kacaandiids who shed a lot of blood against the vermin, I believe we must move on but not forget the 'Somali Democratic Republic'. He is powerless so he should be excused he is old so he should be excused??? we are talking about the former vice president of Somalia the former Defense Minister of Somalia, he is above general moorgan and all the other colonels generals , he was the one second in command after general siyaad bare. But this is not about Somaliland lets stick to general samatar shall we, i am not putting any one on trial bashe yusuf did colonel tuke to and some other general from ohio, were they minority to , do you think there should be special rules for minority tribes? Can they get away with crimes against humanity. Let there be justice for all people if any one wants to put to trial Somaliland generals colonels politicians so be it, but lets not excuse war criminals because they belong to a small tribe.

easy easy guys the Somalilanders and the HAG president are still in talks and we have no problems hassan still hasn't done anything bad against Somaliland, only the general samatar thing is a bit inappropriate but , lets not to hurry. For as hassan can still be our friend.

He is not a bad leader matter infact he is a very good leader for djibouti By the way the way opposition is also from the jesus clan u don't know what ur talking about And four point five is not a bad system.

I dont think for the Somalilanders it matters since they want to be their independent republic the Somaliland republic now has 12 regions , but this is more of a concern for those in Puntland and Jubbaland

Walalaaha galguduud versus walaalaha kenya

Somalia;923547 wrote: Well, he's an old man so I find this very unjustified, that's why this kacaan man has escaped the wrath of my keyboard. So old men should be excused , slobadan Milosevic should have been excused to right he was an old man the same as sadam hussein he was old to with a big grey beard

He is facing some opposition since the last parliamentary elections , people want to reject his rule of power in Djibouti the People's Rally for Progress party wont he majority of the votes and the international observers said it was fair. Now people are running on the streets opposing the out come lets pray for our brother that he remains to rule republique de Djibouti for as long as he lives.

HAG is based in America while Sahal is based in the UK, SAHAL waxay sahlayan mamuul goboleedyada Puntland Jubbaland:D sahal is just to stop HAG nothing else.

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if you you adopt the 8 regions than that means you have killed clan federalism, because no clan can dominate each of the regions to form a state , so this will not work Puntland and Jubbalanders do not want this.

Nuune HAG are an organization in the west a lobby group similar to the aipac, and they support the interest of the HAG people , people of HAG ancestry in Somalia , there are some accusation that they have influences in the current goverment of Somalia. Not sure if there are evidences the HAG manifesto wanted to create a HAG dominated country from galkacyo to the Kenyan border. Sahal doesn't agree with this and are supporters of an autonomous jubbaland state and Puntland autonomous state.

Che -Guevara;923522 wrote: If you don't, why all the fuss? We dont care about him we care about the injustice he did to the people and that needs to be corrected, i could care less about him.

Haatu;923417 wrote: ^You're a poor confused fellow who believes he's a Hashimite when genetic evidence says otherwise. Who will believe a word you say, yaa Haashimi? Do you know the genetics of the Hashimites ,no you dont because some carry the E1B1C particularly the royals in morocco and UAE some carry the J1 some the J2 Haplogroups , but forget about the hashimite ancestry or anything related to that We have no clue about this history we talk about because Somalis are a oral society we have know real written history, this all speculation, and the Land of the Punt is not just Somalia, its just parts of Puntland Somaliland Djibouti and Eritrea and parts of northern Ethiopia , its not just something of Somalis. No my friend Somali history began after islam as we know it and thats when the real Somalis were shaping their true identity.

oba are you calling for war:D

^ Who cares about him its all about justice he will die soon to no immunity will give the war criminal ever dignity, somalia as a former ssdf dhafoorqiiq you sure love the former kacaan generals:D

Welcome to the real world HAG will defend the minority hagist in jubbaland the sahal will say majority rules minority rights jubbaland is ours , haa dhakhleyso

Che -Guevara;923507 wrote: Good....No government apologizes or assumes responsibility for any crimes it might have committed. I don't see any Somali Government that will do such thing. And definitely, no Somali Government will agree to secession. Listen to Oodweyne, the old man knows what he's talking about! No one wants them to apologize but obviously this goverment is not as the same as the general siyad bares goverment , they just had to stay away from this particular case and be neutral. As for Somaliland statehood, they dont have to agree, for as i care its not their call, they dont own the land Somalilanders do

Odey;923505 wrote: Be careful what you wish for and thanks!, Now I know they live out there, You can be sure the Collective Might of the Rest of Somalis will come to play shortly and you shall see many Somalilanders standing trial. Let the games begin. For the moment we will defend The good General I am not against that sue them if you think you have a case get it done get justice all of that i am for it , but dont try to say general samatar is innocent , if you think SNM or any other Somaliland general colonel did you wring sue them

Somalia;923502 wrote: They are looking for our sympathy not really no one wants garowe clan enclave sympathy ,eventhough faroole ur uncle made it clear several times that he was against the afweyne regime atrocities in Somaliland