DoctorKenney;916034 wrote: So perhaps you're suggesting that Somalis can function better as a society if we were a part of a larger Confederated Ethiopia, similar to the Oromos? Or perhaps Somalia is cursed with poor leadership, and that's what's holding us back as a people Somalis lack nation identity they are collective tribes who speak the same language same culture same religion but those factors are not helping them to form a modern republic. Somalis need to transform as people mentally socially, i will give you an example Somali statehood symbol was maandeeq a female camel, it shows that Somalis can only agree on the way of the camel. But now they have a problem milking the camel every single community tribe is trying to milk maandeeq in his favor eventually they killed maandeeq. I dont think its bad leadership its the people.

^They dont fit his tribal pseudo identity so they had to leave i dont think reer bay and bakool will ever feel at home in Puntland and i dont think they will consider it their country.

Tribal identity is much more stronger than National identity i said it before Somalis were never meant to be a nation.

i don't think races should mix

So much for we love Somalia:D

Not going to happen, if Siilaanyo and his goverment agree to attend they will lose all credibility with in the SL public, unless the Brits come with alternative for Somaliland and Somalia. The conference doesn't even concern Somaliland because the agenda is 95% about Somalia. And Somaliland and Somalia will not hold their talks in London at the conference. We will shortly know.

^^ probably the turks

Oodweyne i dont think they will attend.

Ooh i see but that was well known right that Somalia President and UK PM were co chairing the conference.

Whats it about Che i cant view ?

And some more begging.

Ingiriiska Cilaaqaad aad u dheer ayaa Somaliland Ka Dhaxeeyay waanu ka saaraynaa mugdiga soo galay” February 5th, 2013 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) ayaa maanta duhurkii u kicitimay dalka Ingiriiska oo uu socdaal shaqo ku tagay. Waxaanu ka dhoofay madaarka Hargeysa. Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo waxa ku sii sagootiyay madaarka Xubno ka tirsan Golaha Wasiirrada, Xildhibaano ka tirsan Goleyaasha Wakiiladda iyo Guurtida iyo masuuliyiinta Hoggaanka xisbiga talladda haya ee KULMIYE. Madaxweynaha Somaliland Md. Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) waxa uu sheegay inuu socdaal ku tagayo dalka Ingiriiska isla markaana uu sii mari doono wadanka Kenya. “Waxaan Aniga iyo Weftigaygu aan u ambo-baxaynaa dalka Ingiriiska, halkaasi oo aanu kula kulmi doono Wasiirka Arrimaha dibadda William Heague. DawladdaIngiriisku waa dawlad cilaaqaad aad u dheeri innaga dhaxeeyay iyo wax wada qabsi dhinacyo badan leh,”ayuu yidhi Madaxweynaha Somaliland. Madaxweynaha oo hadalkiisa sii watay waxa uu intaasi ku ladhay “Waa Tii mugdi meesha soo galay, Inshaalaahu Mugdigaasi meesha waanu ka saaraynaa. imikana waxaan u tagaynaa inaanu wada hadal la yeelano masuuliyiintaas aan sheegay qaranka Ingiriiska madaxdiisa ka mid ah. waxaanan rajaynaynaa inay si fiican noogu dhacdo.waxaanan dalka iyo dadkaba u rajaynayaa wanaag, bash-bash iyo Barwaaqo.” Madaxweynuhu waxa uu intaasi ku daray inuu kala hadli doono masuuliyiinta Ingiriiska baaqii ay dhawaan muwaadiniintooda ugu baaqeen inay ka soo baxaan Somaliland sababo la xidhiidha cabsi Nabad-gelyo darr Madaxweynuhu waxa intii aanu dhoofin madaarka salaan sharaf kaga qaatay cutubyo ka tirsan ciidanka qaranka. Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo waxa weftigan ku wehelinaya Wasiirrada Arrimaha dibadda Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, Wasiirka Qorshaynta Qaranka Dr. Sacad Cali Shire Iyo Marwadda koowaad ee Somaliland.

Not sure i have always viewed Puntlanders as people who wanted to remain part of Somalia ,as long as they rule their fiefdom separately that's why they call the loudest for clan federalism. I remember in 2003 Cabdilahi Yusuf told the elders of Puntland i am leaving Puntland i am going to Mogadishu to rule these were his exact words. So i have hard time believing Puntlanders will give that up and call for separation.By the way there is no such thing as Jubbaland it doesn't exist ,there is raskambooni brigade and the Kenyans in the lower jubba.

But jubba land and Puntland are not interested of leaving Somalia so how will you solve that? Do you believe Puntlant and Jubbaland should remain with Somalia because thats what they want.

Metta see now you are doing the bidding for the pirates claiming parts of eastern sool and eastern sanaag, The pirates claim those territories to and you are doing the exact same thing right now. But to make it easy for you I will be happy with a UN supervised referendum on independence , i will accept the result will you?

^^ Lander its called divide to have unity most koonfurians use it against SL

There are no special laws for ethnic Somalilanders when it comes to Koonfurians or Somalia's goverment officials. The MP will be in jail for a while maybe he will be released we are not sure yet and he might be deported back to Somalia.

Somalilanders have been waging an ugly border war with the pirate states since 2001 , one can say they are SL ancestral enemies and it dates back for centuries not just political. You cannot really claim in you're right mind that SL and PL can co exist. How ever HAG and Somalilanders have little or no dealing with each other that means no conflict of interest and even no past conflicts. The only problem with HAG is they need to stop claiming SL Sovereign territory than SL and Mogadishu can be good friends. Its easy to blame the IC , you know exactly what the Somalilanders want.if You stop claiming SL as part of Somalia politically it will send a good message to the Internationale community Its like Somaliland claiming Xamar or galmudug as part of SL that doesn't sit well.

Daqane;915896 wrote: Farmajoo is not an ethnic somalilander and she was committing treason of the highest order being a member of the Somali government as well as acting as the Foreign minister, she implies at all those conferences that Somalia is one by her very presence....was there a higher target so with in reach. P.S why do you keep on insisting that this man was hiding, it is after all his hometown regardless of what ethnic somalilanders might say.. He was hiding thats what the security forces told us it was his city but he is working for a foreign country, a country SL has no relations with a country that claims SL to be part of them. The SL laws do not indicate the difference between farmaajo and her any official of Somalia is not allowed to visit Somaliland whether he is a Somalilander ethnically or not. So there is little difference between faarmaajo and fawziya

First of all Hadraawi is not from hargeysa but from Burco he is entitled to his own opinion on Somaliland , hadraawi is a respected man but here are his people, he doesn't represented the people of burco he is a poet., Hargaysaawis feel the same way on Somaliland to be free and independent the southern hargaysaawis are the Kings of Somalilands they have been the rulers of Somaliland for centuries. Do you know four out of 9 officers who staged the coup in 1961 were from southern Hargeysa. Did you know during the war who sheltered the SNM in aware they and later in Baligubadle. You should not really form ur opinion on Buuba and his likes. Reer Hargeysa are reer magaal north and south ,you cannot compare them to the farmers of gabiley,, hargeysa is a big city and there are many koonfurians living there.

The people of Hargeysa and the rest of the Somalilanders share the same destiny do not try to divide them along clan lines. Lol@ they gave daahir aweys a woman lol i dont know what to say

^^ What the hell are you smoking, Somaliland is an independent state it will not unite with the pirate state, nor with Mogadishu, Somalilanders dont hate any one the only thing they said is that we will decide our own future on our own. That doesnt mean they hate you , why would Somalilanders hate Xamar, what did xamar do to Somalilanders , they even helped Somalilanders defeat general siyad bare.The only disagreement Somaliland has with xamar is that xamar tries to claim SL in the form of the former Somali republic. The day that stops SL will be you're best friend, even a better friend than Ismaciil Cumar geele who loves lip singing the Somalia national anthem when he is among the koonfurians:D.

She was on transit for heaven sake did you know Farmaajo stayed half an hour in hargeysa transit when heading to Djibouti. The thing is she was not heading for SL. If she wasn't transit she wouldn't be there at the first place wax aan wax weyn ahayn wax weyn haka dhigin. You cannot compare her to the arrested MP ,who deliberately headed for SL knowing he is not welcome and he was arrested.

They have the Mayors lets see how it goes first before we reject it.