The government in xamar was busy to stop this conference by any means necessary Let see if they can stop it or not.

Hag elites don't want the capital to be changed every one knows that

Oba if you say there is a wider clan alliance using the irir card how come than u want to use poor saacid against his own people. Ileen saacid hada wanin machin hagi sarantahay eh. By the way since did dm join irir this is new for me War niyo sheekadi ba qabil baad u rogtay now how do you think other folks will trust you They will see hassan sheikh and his crew fighting for certain clan interests

Caasimadi somalia reer ba yeeshay lool But let's be fair unuka suffered the most in the civil war iska dayaa ha iska dhuuuqaan for a while Wala iskaga daba iman doonaye eh lol

Oba haday is dileeen every clan ba dhexdooda xukunka isku qabsaday Maanta wa kuwa wada fadhiya kismayo Unuka iyo habargangsar ba soo kuwi gawda iska saaray , waka maanta abwaan mushxaradayaa Its not a big Deal qabilkau wa is dila hadana wa heshiya , we have seen it in burco hadana wala heshiya There is nothing special about kismayo reer somali ba degen wa is dileen hadana mamuulkooday dhisanayaan

They need to first unite galguduud and than unite galguduud with hiiraan Its a big task for reer galguduud uniting for the good of the region Than u have two regions and go from there. Maybe not all districts but it will come

Oba u have to start from some where both beledweyne dhuusamareeeb hobyo cadaado waxaaso dhan wa ku xor Do you think jubbaland is xoronly jubbada hoose even not entire jubada hoose not all gedo is xor but they started meel uun ba laga bilaaba bisinkana loo qabta quraankana shirka lugu fura waxba ka xumaan mayaan By the way jubada dhexe waxad ka dhigaysa new york oo 8 qawmiyadoood degen yihin war wa dhul yar oo somalieeed Dadka badankisa la eega iyo sida ay wax u kala wadan.dadkaas meesha jubada dhexe ku wada nool waxba isku diidi mayaaan waleh

That is very dumb of hag not making a state they need to unite the 3 habargangster subclans and form a state What I don't get is why hiiraan and galguduud don't form a state Abdiqasim subclan is toothless they lost their small colonies in lower shabelle they are no confined in guriceel Once on top of the food chain and look at them today.

Waxala yidha grassroot step by step baad u dhisaysa hiiraan is liberated galguduud is free Shabeelade dhexe and banadir are free. War ku dhakhso jubada dhexe is not liberated either but kismayo dawlad goboleed ba lagaa dhisay it will fill the vacuum marka la xoreyo. Dawdlada federaalkaba soo lama so dhsin iyado dalka kala badh la haysto Well tana wa dawlad yar oo goboleed uun laakin isku si ba loo asaaso As for who is the majority garan mayno exactly laakin laba reer ba wa degan Laakin waxay ku xidhantahay cidi xoreysa imika axmed madoobeba xoreyey jubada hoose Ninki meesha leh uun baa xoreysta jubada dhexa sidasday noqon ciidamo isku dhaf ba geli But xita haday sii fiican wax u qeybsadan happy ku yihin

Oba zacks people do live in the middle juba if i am correct reer garaad wiiwaal ba wax badan ka dega the other groups na way degan. Obviously way isu bahanyihin to form a state. I don't think that will be a major problem. Waryaaa oba nimanki sahal dawlado bay dhisteen hag maxay dawlaod gobaleedyo uga dhisan wayeen gobolada dhexe shabeelade hoose iyo dhexe iyo hiiraan.

Zack if they decide to pull out will reer azania continue to Build a state with out them they still have two regions

Jubbaland daksi way waashay waleh what's so special about this place

Well this was expected saacid to be used by the hag elites to stop the kismayo conference I wonder though. If reer gedo supports this.

Saacid is one of the last few neof@qashist alive all his former friends are long gone. After being an utter failure to his own people this is the best he does. By the way mr culusuw needs to fix this and tell his lap dog to behave or else hag its self will go under water and no general bahuku will safe it. But I see where oodweyne and mtid are coming from when ever koonfurians touch a sensitive subject as that general samatar and the former. Kacaan junta, the public of somaliland takes 5 step back. And its like the time is being set back to may 1988. Means no coexistance with the koonfurians can exist since saacid the water boy of culusow is trying protect criminals. People are talking about union and what not people in sl don't even want to restore relations as 2 states side by side with this government in somalia. Siilaanyo and co need to re think the whole talking to this hag stuff, well done just well done president silanyo has being building peoples diplomacy the pas 18 months hag water boy comes with this. The sl news papers willbe full of this the next few days.

Homunculus;916171 wrote: The difference: 1. Somalia and Somaliland are engaged in peace talks sponsored by the international community. 2. The current Somali government is not a transitional or a make-shift government, it's recognized as the rightful government of Somalia. They are engaged in talks to clarify their future relations but that doesn't mean mps from Somalia are allowed to freely roam in Somaliland they didn't agree on that. They are Somalia's goverment but they have no legitimacy in Somaliland.

^^ There were many arrested before him the past 2 decades nothing new or shocking:D

Dr bidaar on his best:D

U.S. urges lifting of U.N. arms embargo on Somalia - envoys Reuters – 19 minutes ago Reuters/Reuters - United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon addresses delegates during the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos January 25, 2013. REUTERS/Pascal Lauener UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States is urging fellow members of the U.N. Security Council to agree to demands by the government in Mogadishu to lift the arms embargo on Somalia, which has been in place for the past 21 years, U.N. diplomats said on Tuesday. The U.S. push comes after U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said last week that the 15-nation council should consider lifting the arms embargo to help rebuild Somalia's security forces and consolidate military gains against al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab militants. The Security Council imposed the embargo in 1992 to cut the flow of arms to feuding warlords, who a year earlier ousted dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and plunged Somalia into civil war. "I think we'll come down in terms of having probably a political lift of the arms embargo but retaining some controls," said a senior Western diplomat on condition of anonymity. "What the Somali government partly wants is a political signal that they are now a sovereign government and we're supporting them, rather than a trusteeship," the diplomat said. "They say the bad guys are getting weapons and the good guys are not." The U.S. mission to the United Nations had no immediate comment. It was not clear what a "political lift" of the embargo would entail, though diplomats said it may involve easing arms import restrictions on Somalia while ensuring that a strict monitoring mechanism remains in place. Diplomats said Britain and France have been reluctant to support ending the arms embargo. The Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group, which monitors compliance with the sanctions regime, has also opposed the idea of lifting it, U.N. envoys said. Those who oppose getting rid of the arms embargo say Somalia's security sector still includes elements close to warlords and militants, an allegation the Somali government rejects. "There are no Somali warlords that threaten peace and stability in Somalia," the deputy U.N. ambassador for Somalia, Idd Beddel Mohamed, told Reuters. "They are normal citizens now, members of parliament. The embargo must be lifted." AMENDED REPORT? Somalia wants help strengthening its poorly equipped and ill-disciplined military that is more of a loosely affiliated umbrella group of rival militias than a cohesive fighting force loyal to a single president. There are 17,600 U.N.-mandated African Union peacekeepers helping battle the Islamist rebels in Somalia. The AU mission's mandate is up for renewal in March, which is when the changes under discussion, if approved, would take effect. "There's no guarantee there will be a lifting of the arms embargo but it's something the U.S. wants," an envoy said. Several diplomats noted that Ban's recommendation to end the embargo was so weakly worded it was barely a recommendation at all. The wording was: "the Security Council may wish to consider the repeated request by the (Somali) government for lifting the arms embargo." A diplomatic source said the recommendation did not appear in earlier drafts of Ban's report but was in the final version. It has happened before that secretary-general's reports on various issues have been amended before publication in response to complaints from U.N. member states. AU troops from Uganda, Burundi, Kenya and Ethiopia are battling al Shabaab militants on several fronts in Somalia and have forced them to abandon significant territory in southern and central areas of the Horn of Africa country. The militants, who merged with al Qaeda in February last year, launched their campaign against the government in early 2007, seeking to impose sharia, or strict Islamic law, on the entire country. The U.N. Security Council is also considering a call to permit the export of stocks of charcoal from Somalia. It banned the sale abroad of Somali charcoal last February in an attempt to cut off al Shabaab's funding. Diplomats said the charcoal export ban would likely remain in place. The Security Council's Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea, an independent panel that reports on compliance with U.N. sanctions, said charcoal exports from southern Somalia in 2011 generated over $25 million for al Shabaab.

lol@ people who think that the brits are the engine behind Somaliland , the UK aid is mostly through NGO not fully bilateral and that it self is minimum. Somaliland pays its own bills Somaliland is not Somalia where its fully dependent on the west for survival. Somaliland tax revenues port taxes and overall import and export tax and the taxation of SL corporations is where the hard currency is coming from and not from London or Washington. But the Brits helped train some of the police officers of Somaliland. The thing is Somaliland is build on the strength of Somalilanders , Also the brits never said that they want Somaliland and Somalia to be one county they never ever said that. The repeatedly said that the case of union or independence is up for the Somaliland and Somalia people to decide. Only if you tell me they changed their stance you have bring evidence?. Somaliland is here to stay for centuries to come even when the earth eats our flesh and we are long gone.

Both Somaliland and Somalia is this something new

We remind all U.S. citizens in Somalia or considering travel to any part of Somalia that the Department of State’s December 26, 2012 Travel Warning for Somalia advises U.S. citizens to avoid all travel to Somalia

Not really i have black friends.

^^ Do you have frenji boyfriend?

Where did i say its only a koonfurian problem please bring a quote where i said its only a koonfurian problem?

In a normal society you would think a homogeneous group as that of the Somalis would be Africa's successful story a massive territory enough resources to sustain themselves and their neighbors the largest coast line in Africa. You would say they would sing Kumbaya and be a regional power, but no , Somalis were like this before colonialism anarchists. The notion of Somali governance is an alien concept there is no proper hierarchy in the Somali governing system who leads who. And than you have the sense of animosities and distrust between the Somalis its really astonishing.What also needs to be said is i want to find out the exact date Somalis started calling themselves Somalis. Because we named the land after the ethnic group. The other day we were discussing what Somalinimo was and no one came with a clear definition of Somalinimo. So we called the land Somali we dont know exactly what Somalinimo is nor dont we know when we called our selves Somalis. If you ask me we are a bunch of confused nomads.