Wadani;924992 wrote: Y so harsh on secessionists then? Ahh...clan is everything, how could I forget. He is a secessionist an Ethiopian secessionist but he is opposed to Somaliland secession ,its a weird thing

Its very simple the 2 kids in the play illustrate that the Somaliland kid is in disagreement with the Somalia kid on the case of Somalilands for statehood, which is a reality case in 2013. Why should we hide it from our kids. The Somalia kid plays that he wants Somaliland under Somalia the Somaliland kid refuses to be under Somalia, i think its a good play for other kids to watch. By the way i think there is nothing Xenophobic, you have special cases when people just dislike other people because of things that happened civil war, and than sometimes emotions cannot be controlled. But there will always some sort of cultural bond between Somalia and Somaliland, and there will be maybe some sort of political Somali solidarity in the horn. But we are not that far yet, because i know a kid he is not a kid any more but in 1989 he was 15 years old back than, his father was a soldier and died in the 1977 war so he grew up with out a father, when the war broke out in Somaliland in 1988 his mother was killed in the war. i remember when i was in London few years ago and there was a demonstration against the Ethiopian occupation of xamar and many Somalilanders took part of the demonstration and he was asked to come and show somali solidarity. He told the people who invited him adeer, Hooyaday na Somalia dishay , abahay na Ethiopia dishay aniga waad i simantihin kuwa kala doonta. So there are cases of deep seated hatred, but it will fade away after 2 generation or so.

Its not hatred kids should be prepared for life politically economically and socially , parents teach their children about their being identity religion heritage their country history so when they grow up they stand strong in their feets the kid 10 years old he is not a baby over 5 years wa qaan gaadh naag ba loo guurin kara.

Very funny they will be good actors when they grow up , its good for the kids to know where they are from they are the future leaders

Somaliland:Wefti Wasiirro Ah Oo u Kicitimay dalka Turkiga March 6th, 2013 Berbera (Somaliland.Org)- Wefti Wasiirro ah ayaa maanta u kicitimay dalka Turkiga, ka dib markii ay marti qaad rasmi ah ka heleen dawlada Turkiga. Wasiirradan oo ka dhoofay madaarka Berbera, waxay kala ahaayeen Wasiirrada wasaaradaha Macdanta, biyaha iyo tamarta Md. Xuseeen Cabdi Ducaale iyo Wasiirka wasaaradda waxabarashada Marwo Samsam Cabdi Aadan, waxaana magaaladda Addis-ababa kaga sii biiri doona Wasiirka Arrimaha dibadda iyo iskaashiga caalamiga ah Dr. Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, oo isagu weftigan Hoggaamin doona. Wasiirradani waxay sheegeen in socdaalkoodu uu la xidhiidho sidii ay ugu gogol xaadhi lahaayeen socdaalka uu Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo ku tagi doono dalka Turkiga. Wasiirradu waxay intaasi ku dareen inay dawladda Turkiga kala hadli doonaan sidii loo sii xoojin lahaa wada shaqaynta iyo iskaashiga ka dhaxeeya Somaliland iyo Turkiga. Weftigani waxa ay tilmaameen inay dawladda Turkiga tafaasiil ka siin doonaan mashaariic Turkigu ka fuliyay Somaliland oo iskugu jira horumarinta adeegyada aasaasiga ah.

Apophis;924914 wrote: The HAG have as much stake in Jubbaland as reer waamo have in Hiiraan, so you see, they're not being "dominated". They are but the Sahals are not making any noise they are happy with Puntland and Jubbaland and sharing Mogadishu with the HAG

Jubbaland will be very hard to solve , because SAHAL community would say they are dominating because they have the vast majority districts when you unite gedo with the lower jubba and middle juba,and the HAG will never accept to be be dominated , clan federalism can work in Puntland , galguduud and hiiraan, shabeelada dhexe and shabeelada hoose , to some extend, even though shabeelada hoose is very diverse. The same with bay and bakool,lets see how it goes in the next coming months.

Daqane;924893 wrote: They call them reer duun dararac meaning adding their two cents in conversations that do not concern them, with their thunderous voices, lool and any way the process has been ongoing, but as you say there is still a whole lot to do and their still other options like lower shabelle joining baay state e.t.c What ever happens in Mogadishu and Somalia concerns Somalilanders, xita haday habari dhuusto wa inanu maqalno , because Somalia still claims Somaliland as part of their country.The day Somalia erases Somaliland from their constitution you have the right to tell Somalilanders stop meddling in our affairs in the mean time proceed yaa Mitid . Even than you have the right to kick all Landers from SOL LOL So far no conferences planned in Middle shabelle to form a state with lower shabelle. and bay and bakool still want to be involved in the Jubbaland formation , it will be interesting how this clan federalism works out. The 3 sub clans of the Habr ganster clan were never united under one Entity , they were only united to expand to the lower shabelle and lower jubba. But never united in galguduud so i dont see that happening and especially not with reer hiiraan.

Miskiin kenyatta is leading is there a chance Odinga stands a chance

Daqane;924881 wrote: Xaajiyow it does not work that Baay+Bakool = Baay state. Lower Shabelle+ Middle Shabelle= Shabelle State. Hiiraan+Galgaduud+Galmudug = Bartamaha State. Thats the plan markaasna by the way what do reer jibouti call reer somaliland? I dont see that happening reer galguduud would never share a state with reer hiiraan i dont see that happening the rest might be possible Reer Djibouti call reer Somaliland , lali.

Centralism well done hassan sheikh maxamuud unite Hiiraan galguduud shabeelade dhexe shabeelada hoose Banadir bay and bakool and form one entity with a structured defense command.

What is the latest on the Kenya elections

Xididka in la qadiriyo wa Muhiim

Not as honorable has hassan culusow

You cannot leave the political arena now , you are already there, by the way hassan is doing a good job. Oba if you see Puntlanders hating a political leader from the Unuka community he must be doing a fantastic job, if they admire him , he is a terrible man get rid of him

oba hiloowlow;924731 wrote: Hassan sheikh is wrong on this i blame his Galgaduud genes Xassan wa Halyey, if we only had him in 1991 instead of that fool called Cali naafto

Runti Unukians are not tribalist folks very down to earth even their 60 years old is Ciyaala xafaad. But Abwaan and the Habar gangster community its they that have caused many problems.And their chauvinistic Hagism characteristics created some how that the Unukians were driven to a corner the Idea of HAG political supremacy was initially the political ideology by the Habar gangster community. But the problem is they could not deliver now the HAG Elites all come from the Unuka community ,the tables are turned and the rest follows.

:D The unukians are leading , Abwaan will never admit that , but its not wrong hadu inadeerka ku hogaamiyo

Hassan sheikh Maxamuud disagrees

Oba since 2009 the HAG political elites were starting to unite for the bigger cause, Hagism really took off though with the elections of hassan last year , now they are tight and close to each other, nothing wrong with that.

Abwaan wa caadi 1991 adiga ugu adka cid walba waad jiidhaysey 2006 awoodadi wa wiiqantay taasi maha inay beeshu so rogaal celin karayn waxaba laga dhaxlay midnimada beelaha hag wana wax wanaagsan runi. Beel somaliyeed oo midownda ama xoog miltary haku midoobaan ama mid siyaasadeysan, taleexi uun baan u sheegey qabilka somalidu siday u midobeen uun baan sharaxayey

Jacpher;924615 wrote: Amen Amen. Not. Give few months before the same government cries about guns ending up in the wrong hands. Amiirki xita wu so dhaweyey cunaqabataynta hubka eeh laga qaaday Somalia.

Wadani HAG unity was forced by the Unuka group allied to the ssdf faction of Abdilahi Yusuf the habar gangster were totally annihilated in 2006 2007 2008, their hegemony no longer exist so they were forced to follow the Unukka group.The Habar gangster clan lost their colonies in Lower shabelle and even Lower Jubba during the JVA also they lost their ICU , their islamic faction they were the founders of the ICU The Habar gangster clan also used to control half of xamar, before they were defeated. Now they are confined in the Galmudug and ximan iyo xeeb, the Puntlanders also had a clear winner in their civil war Abdilahi Yusuf defeated Jamac cali jamac forces, and united the 3 regions of Maguartania. But the Garaad clan was divided they never confronted each other politically nor Militarily they just tolerate each other one part Supports Puntland very small percentage the other part Supports Khatumo , and the vast Majority Supports Somaliland. Khatumo will never kill their own because of political ideology nor will they ever lock them up , they caught cali sandule deputy of xaqsoor they released him with in 24 hours.

ciidanka in 4.5 Loo qeybsado wa muhim wa inuu qabil kasta iska dhex arka ciidanka , hadi kale dee ciidan qaran maha eeh wa ciidan HAG , Somalia needs to create a central structured command.

Heshiskii hordhaca eeh Djibouti lugu gaadhay sidan bu u dhigna The governments of Somaliland and Somalia agreed to pursue political and peaceful means to resolve their differences. · The two sides agreed not to use diplomatic or political pressures against one another in resolving their dispute, which is centered around Somaliland declaration of independence. · The two sides agreed to respect the International Boundary between the two sides prior to the union of 01 July 1960, which will be treated as de facto Border between the two territories until final political settlement has been concluded. · The two sides also agreed to share the proceeds of the international financing on prorate basis, to be agreed upon, based on the needs of the two sides. · An International Fund will be set up to finance the needs of the two sides. The Fund will be managed by International Joint Committee and both Somaliland and Somalia will be entitled to their respective share of the funding.