Also another reason why Somaliweyn never materialized was because,for us the state is an alien creature that usually stands in our way to achieve things, but sometimes allows our clan to benefit over others.For others it is what brings meaning to their lives, it is their very existence and they cannot imagine life or function as a society with out it. Somalis never really needed such a form of governance ,even during colonialism of Italy and France and Britain all 3 had their different methods on how they governed their colonies. All 3 imposed their own political culture on the societies , so at the time of independence what we he had was Somali Ethno Nationalism and not in the form of a shared historic colonialist past like much of Africa and that was the biggest dilemma our grandfathers in the 40s had to overcome. And the only weapon they had was Somalism, something that never existed before the white Europeans stepped into the Somali peninsula. There was a never a common past all Somalis shared but the Somali politicians the SYL and SNL were convinced they could create a new form of Ethnic Somali identity mixed with Somali statehood and the wider mega Somali republic objective. So in order to unite the Somalis the goal was set to unite the 5 Somali territories under one country. And it went well up to the year 1977 Somalis were tight and sh1t and would assist each other helped with the decolonization of Djibouti even though the unity wasn't materialized after we lost the war in 1977 Somali galbeed. i think that was the turning point for most Somalis.

Greater Somali republic was an idea the SNL SYL came up with in the 1940s, but it never existed before that and it died quickly when the civil war began. Somaliweyn political ideology was conceived on emotions and because of colonialism, but when the colonialist left every one went back to his own roots.

Qansax ever since the shifta war the Somalis there gave up the war, and are happy kenyans or else they would have fought the Kenyans

It can happen 3 parts are already independent 2, to go but the problem the 3 independent states can hardly be united, thats the big issue and i am sure if the O'gaden gets independence they do not wish to be ruled from Mogadishu. I think the Kenyan Somalis , really like Kenya and do not wish to leave Kenya.

This guys is a retard and needs to be locked up ASAP, he is a disgrace to galmudug and the entire HAG community

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Brothers of Puntland dee and brothers in Siyaasad, faroole iyo saacid isku siyaasad hada maha. laakin dan ba geysey garowe.

Where did i mention qabil , reer NFD ma qabil qudha? Somaliland maintains good relations with 3 out of the 4 Somali inhabited countries

Black flash sudan is playing them both the dam doesn't technically effect Sudan they have nothing to lose, also sudans relations with saudi arabia isn't that well, because bashir asked king abdullah to come and mediate between south sudan and sudan. The saudis rejected it and said let the qataris do it , bashiir is still angry because of that.

Waranle why are you so angry , if faroole respected saacid he would go to the airport and greet him there, this has nothing to do with clan:D

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look how unhappy uncomfortable faroole is

Haatu ma waxad leedahay reer NFD ba kala garaneyn reer Somalia iyo reer Somaliland:D

You are right universal tv helped the illeey administration allot ,laakin dhinaca kale mar ka laga eego Somalida , Somali galbeed aad ba lo dayacay waxay inta badan isku tiirinayeen jamhuuriyada Somalida. TIi markay meesha ka baxday dagaal iyo qax bay iyaguna galeen oo dagaal dheer bay itoobiya galeen. Qaar badan ba hada leeh anu xabashida la heshiino oo anu iska noolaano , intanu silic ku noolaan lahayn.

Blackflash;925596 wrote: The fact that Somalis can't set aside their dislike of Ethiopia for just a moment, so they consider why Arabs from as far away as Saudi Arabia are getting involved in this, is astonishing. Somalis are dumb folks the so called Nile river doesn't go through our territories , they should be neutral, Ethiopia as a state brought Somalis lots of misery and pain.We should never forget that, but we should not be used and fight Arabs dirty war with Ethiopia

oba hiloowlow;925589 wrote: I would fight for Somali galbeed saaxiib my uncles did it in the 70s maantana aniga baa diyaar uu ah. Xaaji whats your solution lets give up on somali galbeed? Let Somali galbeed people fight for their region and free it from the Habeshi colonization the other Somalis in the horn should just assist it with political and financial support. Oba hiloowle Somalia already gave up on Somali galbeed the day they restored relations with Addis ababa

Yes the sudanese refused to give the Egyptians and the Saudis a base to launch an attack right now saudi diplomats are trying to find a solution to bring sudan on board

Oba we know no HAG leader will be a threat to Somaliland a HAG pilot from the unuka branch refused to bomb Somaliland in the 80s. But there are certain former Siyaadist elements who believe force is justified against Somaliland. And when president Siilanyo is talking he is addressing them, as oodweyne calls them the defeated lot he is referring to them. Not the genuine lovely koonfurians who love their Somaliland brothers.

I am not reer Somalia my friend.

oba hiloowlow;925574 wrote: maybe u didn't lol. war is a interest for our somali folks under oppression ya xaaji Are you going to fight along side them? , are you going to allow so many refugees in Somalia including the oromos who will also flee towards Somalia, this is not the way you fight oppression.

The road was very damaged and it had big holes it was in the mid 90s reconstructed its pretty good daante south hargeisa the road the Chinese built few decades ago, the first part of the road is in good hands and the last part is stlll not good. Hargeisa had a good mayor in the late 1990s and he made a whole new plan for the city.

More and more people since ileey took office are supporting the EPRDF i wonder what has changed and the ONLF didn't carry out any attacks against the EPRDF forces in the region or as Liyuu as they are called.

Apophis;925568 wrote: What are you, simple? The Eritreans fully benefited from the war launched by Somalia in '77 and if it weren't for the Soviets changing sides, they would have freed their country then and there. But this is all moot, I doubt there'll be full-scale war. They didn't benefit at all they attacked massawa but couldn't hold it the EPLF just lost more men in that war for massawa the derg fully crushed the EPLF in that war, they miscalculated , the same way no Somali will benefit from a war not those in Ethiopia and certainly not the others in the Somali peninsula . If war happened the entire oromo population will flee towards the Somali region and try to reach the awash river. The only way for the ONLF to succeed is if its united and if its effective on the ground and if all Somalis in the region support the ONLF and if they get support from other Somalis in the future those in Somalia and Somaliland Djibouti. But they will not benefit from a war between Ethiopia and Egypt. And the times the Somali republic claimed the Somali galbeed region as a region under occupation is long over. The only way the Somali galbeed region can be free if it fights for self determination under the notion of the oppressed ethiopian people.

Haatu;925569 wrote: It had nice straight roads back then. Destroyed by the war in the 80s

oba hiloowlow;925567 wrote: And this dude claims to be from gaashamo or whatever When did i say i was from gaashaamo loool Waryaa war is not in the interests of any one