Why do u support the dictator?

^^ I have said that before Arabs should not meddle in the talks between Somalia and Somaliland any other African country i would welcome or even the Europeans since they have no motives and are neutral.

Gooni ina Ismaciil Samatar waayoo sawki u tartamayey jagada madaxweyne nimo sanadki hore sideed marka u odhan karta hogaamiye woqoyi ka yimi uma tartamim madaxtinimada Somalia?

The Italians were outnumbered and outgunned and are you forgetting that oromos were the bulk of the army to at that time. You have no argument. But the process of expanding Abyssinia started way before Italian Abyssinian war it was done through cultural imperialism. Fact remains that the oromos killed their own fought their own these people have identity crisis. But that doesn't mean i hate them i wish them all the best luck in Ethiopia, i just want them to stay away from Somali galbeed thats all.

Are you seriously comparing the British Empire an Empire that conquered much of the world with some poorly equipped Habashas from gojjam and gonder and wollo shewa. Are you forgetting Amhara leadership were either mothered by oromo or some times they were oromo with Amhara mothers. The oromos are not disparately different than their Amhara cousins the western and northern shewans believe they are from higher pedigree than their arsi oromos and Jimma oromos and orma oromos. For the last 300 years the oromos were in the leadership of Abyssinia and step by step they were expanding and expanding and destroying the live hoods of their own people. Oromos cannot be compared with Somalis or any other nation in Africa.

Haatu;930034 wrote: No one is being xenophobic. They should just stay out of Somali lands. That's all. Thats all haatu understands it

Safferz you see oromo as one ethnic group but in reality socially politically and even traditionally and genetically and historically they are not the same.These people at the beginning have been fighting for others , its not my opinion its a historic fact that shewan oromos played a significant role in subjugating other oromos under Abyssinia. For example the likes of Muhammad ali who was an oromo the son of ras gusha he ruled much of Gonder and wollo highland Ethiopia, he later converted to Christianity. Or another oromo tribal chief Liben emede who wed his daughter to the Tigrayan king Yohannes.Or taitu betul the wife of King Menelik or ras mekonnen meneliks first cousin another oromo the father of haile selasie .Since Ethiopia is both a paternal and maternal society and there are many other cases oromos played a significant role and helped others to subjugate them under Abyssinia. Ofcourse some opposed the Abyssinian expansion like the eastern arsi oromos but it was to late there were already millions of Oromo,Amharic speakers fighting for Abyssinia and its expansion in every corner they were even the footsoldiers who fought in Somali galbeed in the late 19 century. Thats why you have till the day of today some supporting OLF and some ultra nationalist Ethiopians.These people have nothing to do with us and this is topic is an insult to Somalis,i urge the admins to delete it.

Abbaas;930006 wrote: Oh, i got it now i was just :confused: but it's the difference that i'm looking for Words Woqoyi including big parts of Somali galbeed versus the southern dialect Beed= Ukun Tomandho = Yaanyo Gidaar = darbi Bisad = Mukulaal Imisa = Meeqa Kaluun= Malay Walaal = Aboowe Digaag = dooro Daqiiq = bur Foog = Fargeeto Makhsin = qolka Xashiska = Qashinka Than you have the r versus dh Gabadh = gabar Gogol xaadh = Gogol xaar Tidhi = tiri Badhi = Bari Gadh = Gar Qadhaadh = Qaraar inanka = cunuga Than you have the other thing waxan ku dhahay waxan ku idhi waxad i tidhi waxad i dhahday And so on

Safferz;929996 wrote: They are indeed the majority ethnic group in Ethiopia today, but only because of Ethiopian conquest and subjugation (like the Somalis in the eastern part of Ethiopia). Hararis on the other hand are Habesha - Semitic speakers like the Tigray/Tingrinya and Amhara - so why do you believe they are closer to Somalis than the Oromo? The Oromo are a Cushitic people like the Somali. First of all these are linguistic branches u are talking about, there are Somali clans with in the harari ethnic group and Somalis ruled harar the hararis have afar in them turks Arabs Somali clans oromo clans.Amharic language is Semitic grammatically but heavily cushitic, even though i do not like to use those terminologies because they were introduced by European anthropologists. There is no cushitic origin or ethnicity in the conext of ethnic origin. These terms were used by those Europeans to divide Africans in branches oromos afars sahos agaws are not descendants of King kush there is no genetic proof for that. The oromos some think they are Amahra and want to be like them some in the south in jima and orma and omo oromos just act like their nilotic cousins. Oromos played a significant role in subjugating themselves Oromos fought for Menelik they were his closest allies. Somalis when the Abyssinians invaded Somali galbeed there were no Somali nomads fighting for menelik. Somalis are nothing like oromos , the gallas are submissive people and have no quality but there are to many of them they can be a threat to our region.

Abaas there are some similarities but mostly its in words and verbs ofcourse that where you can find the differences.

Problem with taleexi is he in reality doesn't believe in a clan state but he sticks with it for the time being i wonder when he will jump ship?

Che -Guevara;929982 wrote: Give it rest too. N you are not good neighbors anyone including your fellow Somalis. I am a good neighbor to any one, as long we respect each others boundaries with the exception of the oromo peasants who want to steal Somali territories.

Carafaat oromos have nothing to do with Somalis , oromos are Ethiopians they are not closer to us than their Habashi cousins , the only oromos that have some sort closeness are the arsi oromos and we brought them islam. Somalis are closer to the Rendile and Afars and Hararis.

Oromos are nothing like Somalis we dont speak a like we dont look a like and surely we are not friends or good neighbors.

I guess maalin wanaagsan uun

Who is we?

The looters incorporated , I think the Garaad clan those who still have hope that with waving the blue flag you will be valued in Mogadishu and given a share of the political pie. Will soon also see the light its just a matter of time. I think Taleexi is a rational guy he sees what went wrong right now or the past 21 years and how he wasted time first on Puntland than the SSC than the Khatumo project its time for a radical approach.

What would i do if i won the lottery let me see. Construct 10 hospitals in Somaliland I would buy my self a nice big mansion in California Buy couple of Private jets I would fund a Militia in the Somali galbeed region to keep the Oromos at bay Also south east asia waan tagi laha dad baan so ibsan laha ii shaqeyaa. I would also buy the ictraaf for Somaliland.

Alpha why are you hating on the girl waryaa ka xishood inanta. Dr sada is a good lady i hope her all the best in her career.

Apophis;929921 wrote: I'm very serious comrade. Jaale siyad was the best thing to happen to somalia since camels were tamed. All the people of the former Somali republic would have not rebelled against him if he was as great as you tell us he was. How old are you, did you live in Somalia under his reign?

The ONLF was an Ethiopian party at that time they didn't pick up arms they just did that way later in 1994. Well the Somali republic normalized relations with Ethiopia i dont think in the near future they will change that policy. Only the Somalis in Somali galbeed can fight for their rights Somalia cant do anything.

Apophis you are not serious:D

Indeed they were abandoned the WSLF was finished at that time Afaraad faction already joined the SNM years before that. General siad bare cared more about keeping the SNM at bay than keeping the M.O.D. alliance intact when push comes to shove, Siad bare did what he had to do.

^^ He sold you to Mengistu and restored relations with your enemy.

Not true the oromos can be divided in 3 categories the omo and orma including the bale clans who moved to the north the one who live in the deep south and in kenya who have Bantu ancestry and Nilotic ancestry. The one in northern shewa and western shewa and bareento oromos and tulama and wallelge oromos who are very close to Amhara and agaws Gurage culturally genetically.That leaves the arsi in Hararge and those in Harar, those might be close to Somalis but they are not the majority of oromos , oromos are not all ethnically the same. The reason why the arsi is close to the Somali is because we brought them islam and taught them the fine values of Islam.