Wadani;931106 wrote: Actually they do in the hawd area of kilinka. Not when it comes to sub clan Xiin is from Eastern sanaag western bari and some are even from Jubbaland they switch clans though some times they turn into HAG. So Mintid has a point.

Xiinfaniin political disagreement should never be translated as deep seated hatred the respected clan you hail from and i are related through blood and are my relatives. There is a xeer between our peoples as Mintid tried to explain , gobtu wa is gacal cunta wana is waran galisa wana is gaba gabeysa. Hadana gogol nabadeed wa ku gar naqsata.

NGONGE;931091 wrote: ^^ Don't feel too special, saaxib. Xaaji X hates D Block, Oromos, some HAG, Kenyans, Arabs and one single sub-sub-sub clan from his own side. He loves Israel, some Xabashis, Omar geele and the Asmara dictator. Wariyaa i don't hate D Block wa dad wanaagsan i wish them kheyr. Xiin faniin uun ba u haysta in an kheyr la rabin garan wayeey halku ka keenay. Nor do i hate oromos i hate their expansion agenda, i don't hate Israel nor do i love Israel i see strategic partnership. if its beneficial for the people of Somaliland and the larger horn ofcourse. I view Washington and tel aviv the same away. Never liked Xabashis only the Muslim Xabashis are oke .President isaias afewerki is a genius a man against the world i love his self sufficiency economic program and how he governs Eritrea. The Arabs only the one who share a holy blood line with the Afro hashimate republic the rest i am very indifferent. HAGs are good people very innocent people i urge Somalilanders to work with the HAG people as they are Somalilands neighbors. The same way with our brother next door President ismael omar geele who did a great Job in Djibouti since he was ruling there he deserves our support. i call it the power of 3 in the Somali peninsula Djibouti Hargeisa Mogadishu. You forgot my support for the legendary robert mugabe may he long live.

Bismilahi raxmani raxim i wish no one harm Xiinfaniinow what makes you think that i wish some one harm nabad iyo caano badan baan cid walba u rajeynaya.

The Puntlanders are irrelevant in the Jubbaland affairs gone are the days of moorgen. its a race between 2 factions the Azanians raskambooni col cabaas from gedo as one group. Versus the other faction of gedo led by the Prime Minister and the gedo governor Mr Kaliil and the other former aswj faction mostly gedo troops.The Puntlanders are no where in this process, the may may group inhabit parts of the middle jubba so they are stake holders. Even Faroole is quiet i predict this will be a win for the government.

Mintid Farayar;931029 wrote: Xaaji, It seems Xiin agrees with you in the normality of this situation in an earlier comment. It's actually quite elementary: If you don't pay the salaries of the security militias, there's no security. Very simple equation..... Sensei, AUN for the dead victims... Indeed Mintid , Brother Xiin knows this is a normal way of living and it should not shock people for as this is just part of the daily thuggery behavior of the garowe clan enclave. Thats why i believe there will not be even an investigation.

ABU DHABI // Senior government figures from Somaliland have held three days of talks in the UAE on investments, aid and security. Related ■ Somaliland: exploration in 'Africa's 55th state' ■ Off to Somaliland, the safer version of Somalia ■ With UN help, Somaliland opens prison especially for pirates "We have met the leadership of the country and responsible leaders, and had fruitful discussions," said Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo, president of the self-declared autonomous north-western region of Somalia. Somaliland declared independence in 1991, but has struggled for recognition from the international community, despite having a democratically elected government. But its foreign minister, Dr Mohammed Abdullah Omar, said Somaliland was being engaged by countries and international organisations. Mr Silanyo said he proposed UAE involvement in establishing two hospitals in the towns of Berbera and Burauo. "We have made a request also for improvements to be made on the Burauo-Hargeisa road, which is known as Sheikh Zayed Road because the late president built it," he said. The Somaliland government has requested road-building equipment and the tools to dig water wells. "There is no particular financial estimate for all these projects," Mr Silanyo said. Dr Omar said investment opportunities in the oil, gas and fisheries industries had been presented. "We intend to invite a number of UAE business groups to visit and invest in Somaliland in oil and gas-exploration opportunities, and our fisheries industry," he said. Hussein Abdi Dualeh, Somaliland's minister for mining, energy and water resources, said the autonomous region hoped to be drilling for oil by next year. On security matters, Mr Silanyo said a joint security delegation was being set up between Somaliland and the UAE. "We have an understanding to work together," he said. "We are also fighting piracy quite well and a large number of the pirates are in jail." Security cooperation is on two fronts - antipiracy and counter-terrorism, according to Dr Omar. "We are the safest part within the region but we are still surrounded by an area filled with extremists, terrorists, criminals and pirates," he said. "We look to share intelligence, information and notes on the subjects." The foreign minister added that, although the rate of pirate attacks has dropped drastically, complacency is not an option. "This massive international presence [in the Gulf of Aden] cannot be sustained, therefore developing security across our own waters is what matters for the future," he said, adding that the UAE's efforts over the last two years had paid off. The UAE has been aiding the development of Somaliland and Somalia, as well as helping the countries in the region to battle piracy. "They have presented a framework for action and a platform to launch it through the events and meetings organised last year and the year before," Dr Omar said. Somalia has functioned without a strong central administration since the ousting of dictator Siad Barre in 1991. The collapse of his dictatorship led to civil war and clan conflict, which split the country into the regions of Somalia, Somaliland, Puntland and Galmudug. Last year, the UAE orchestrated and hosted a historic meeting between the presidents of Somalia and Somaliland in Dubai - the first in 21 years. The then president of Somalia's transitional federal government, Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, and Mr Silanyo signed a declaration that paved the way for future talks and cooperation between the nations. Mr Silanyo said he hoped the Dubai meeting would be the first step towards such recognition. But he said yesterday his country was still finding Somalia an obstacle. "Somalia and Somaliland were part of a federation, and some people still find it hard to accept that this federation does not exist any more," he said. "We are looking for international recognition from Somalia, who are our brothers and neighbours but they still do not agree." http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/politics/president-of-somaliland-seeks-closer-ties-with-uae

Mintid Farayar;931043 wrote: Oodweyne's predictive analysis at work again. Oodweyne was indeed correct, but some naive people hoped that saacid would bless the conference but it didn't happen a transitional admin will be set up according to the goverment. Also the port authority will come directly under the supervision of the prime minister.

Last week Foreign minister of Egypt visited Somalia Muhamad kamel Egypt said in November last year that it will assist Somali military forces Egypt said that it will re open its embassy And now the President of Egypt Muhammad morsi will visit Somalia for the first time. The Ethiopians are already threatening to withdraw their troops from Somalia

Madaxwaynaha Masar Oo Booqosho Ku Tagaya Muqdisho Horaanta Bisha April Iyo Shixnad Hub Ah Oo Dalkiisu Ugu Deeqay Somalia Oo Ka Sii Horayn Doonta Qaahira, March 27, 2013 (Haatuf) - Wararka laga helayo Magaalada Qaahira ee dalka Masar ayaa sheegaya in dhawaan uu soo gaadhi doono Magaalada Muqdisho ee dalka Somalia Madaxwaynaha Masar Maxamed Mursi. Booqashadan ayaa waxa ay ka danbaysay dhawaan markii uu Muqdisho soo gaadhay Wasiirka Arrimaha Debada ee Masar oo dhawaan la kulmay madaxda dawlada fadaraalka ee Somalia, isla markaana heshiis Milatari iyo mid tacliinta ahba la saxeexday dawlada Somalia. Socdaalkan uu Madaxweynaha dalka Masaru u ku tagi doono Somalia ayaa noqonaysa tii ugu cuslayd ee Madaxwayne caalamka ka socdaa uu soo gaadho Muqdisho intii ka dambaysay tan iyo burburkii dawladii dhexe ee Maxamed Siyaad Barre. Madaxweynaha Masaarida Maxamed Mursi ayaa aad u soo dhaweeyey kulankii ugu horeeyey ee ay ku kulmeen Madaxweynaha Somalia markii ay labadoodu ka qaybgaleen caleemo-saarkii Madaxwaynaha Yugandha markii dib loo doortay waxaana la xaqiijiyey inuu u balan qaaday inuu dawlada Somalia u dhiso ciidan, isla markaana siiyo Hub iyo farsamo yaqaano khubaro Milatari oo dhawaan soo gaadhi doona magaalada Muqdisho. Hubkaas oo noocyo kala duwan leh ayaa la sheegay in dhawaan loo soo rari doono isaga oo lacag la’aan ah Muqdisho, waxaana la qaadi doonaa kooxdii ugu horaysay ee loo soo tababari doono Somalia oo galayn doono dalka Masar. Heshiiskan dhexmaray dawlada Masar iyo Somalia ayaa waxa uu ka cadhaysiiyey dawlada Ethiopia oo haatan iyadu ciidamadeeda kala baxaysa Somalia.

Xaalada Kismaayo oo cirka iskushareertey iyo wafdigii RW oo ciidan dalbaday(xog rasmi ah) (Allssc) Xaalada magaalada Kismaayo ayaa xiligan cakiran kadib markii lagu kala kacay kulumadii socday.Wafdigii RW Saacid ayaa codsaday inay la kulmaan odayaashah Beel kamida Beelaha wax ka daga Jubooyinka waxaana arintaas gaashaanka u daruuray maamulka magaalada Kismaayo oo ku wargeliyay hadii ay doonayaan in odayaal la kulmaan inay la kulmaan kuwa ku xaraysan Jaamacada Kismaayo oo Beelaha dhan ka kooban. Qorshaha Saacid uu la yimid Kismaayo ee laga diiday waxaa kamida in Dekadda, Garoonka Diyaaradaha, ciidamada iyo maamulkaba Dowlada lagu soo wareejiyo, Dowladuna ay dhisto maamul ku meelgaar ah oo mudo 6 bilood ah ka arimiya gobolka Jubada Hoose ee magaala madaxiisu tahay Kismaayo. Wafdigii RW Saacid ayaa sidoo kale saraakiisha ciidamada AMISOM u sheegay in Kismaayo ay keenayaan ciidan dhan 100 askari ayna magaalada u dhisayaan maamul ka kooban 35 xubnood.Wafdigu Dowladu waxay kaloo sheegeen inaysan Kismaayo ka baxaynin ilaa iyo inta ay ka dhisayaan maamulka. Arintan ayaa dhalisay xiisad sababtay in maamulka magaalada Kismaayo ciidamo badan wadooyinka ku daadiyaan kuwaas oo lagu amaray in amniga magaalada ay adkeeyaan. Buuqa iyo kala kaca deg daga ah ayaa yimid kadib markii wafdigii Dowladu ay xalay dalbadeen in shirka laga saaro Prof.Gaandi dhinaca kale ay diideen iyagoo ku dooday in Prof.Gaandi uu yahay xildhibaan deegaankan laga doortay sidaa darteedna aysan jirin sabab shirka looga saaro. Isku soo duuboo Jawigu ma qurux badna,xaalada magaaladuna waa falaadhii cirka loo diray nin waloow filo! Hadaba ha ka fogaanin shabakada wararka allssc wixii wararka ku saabsan xaalad cakiran ee kismaayo .

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamanka Somalia oo ka codsaday ciidamada Itoobiya inaanay ka bixin Baay iyo Bakool. Kulamadan ayaa waxay ahaayeen kuwo ay albaabadu u xidhan yihiin, iyadoo markii ay soo dhamaadeen Prof. Jawaari sheegay inuu .... Muqdisho (GNS)- Guddoomiyaha baarlamanka Somalia Maxamed Cismaan (Jawaari) ayaa shalay kula kulmay magaalada Baydhabo ee gobolka Bay saraakiisha ciidamada Itoobiya ka howlgala gobolada Bay iyo Bakool. Kulamadan ayaa waxay ahaayeen kuwo ay albaabadu u xidhan yihiin, iyadoo markii ay soo dhamaadeen Prof. Jawaari sheegay inuu saraakiisha Itoobiya ka dalbaday inay ka shaqeeyaan sidii Al-shabaab looga saari lahaa degaanada ay kaga sugan tahay gobollada Bay iyo Bakool. Sidoo Kale Waxa uu sheegay inuu ku boorriyay inaysan ka bixin deegaannada ay ku sugan yihiin inta laga bedelayo, lana soo xoojinayo ciidamada AMISOM, hase ahaatee ma sheegin iney ka aqbaleen iyo in kale. Guddoomiye Jawaari ayaa dhinaca kale warbixino ka dhageystay xildhibaannada Baarlamaanka ee horey ugu sugnaa degmadaas, kuwaasoo u sheegay inay wax badan uga qabsoomeen howlihii ay halkaas u yimaadeen oo ay ka mid ahaayeen inay xal ka gaadhaan muranka dhinaca maamulka ah. Ciidamada Itoobiya ayaa isku diyaarinaya iney ka baxaan gudaha Somalia, maalmaha soo socda, iyagoo todobaadkii horena baneeyey magaalada Xudur oo ay dib ugu laabteen xoogaga Al-shabaab.

Hal abuurka maasnada

Dont be surprised salax this is very normal in the garowe clan enclave this is part of the pirate culture in that region.

I consider them family

Haatu;930895 wrote: Wey duushey sow ma aha Xaaji? Here you have Saalax, calling S/land "citizens" as you call them Khaatumo Seeg and the defeated lot . And you tell me it's not a clan project. One question on this, are the bones still buried in the beach? If that's so, then they should be taken to a proper burial site, wherever their relatives chose, not politicians. When did i call them khatumo seeg or defeated lot?

War deg deg ah—Kulamadii Kismaayo oo maantana lagu kalakacay Kismaayo–27-03-2013– Kulankii maanta uga socdey Dowlada Federaalka iyo Maamulka KMG ee Kismaayo ayaa noqdey mid aan wax natiija ah ka soo bixin ka dib markii qolo walba ku adkeysteen in tooda la raaco., waxaana markale la balamay in la isu soo laabto berri subax, inkastoo uu jiro shaki ah inaanba la isusoo laabanayn oo saas lagu kala dhaqaajiyey. Dowladu waxay wali taagantahay inaysan aqoonsaneyn shirweynaha socda oo ay ku tilmaameen sharci daro halka Qolyaha kalena taagan yihiin In Dowladu sharci daro ku dhaqmeyso. Shirka maanta ayaa socdey qadar saacado ah waxaana qolo walba isku deydey iney qolada kale ka dhaadhiciyaan ajandahooda. Dowlda Federaalka waxaa lagu eedeynayaa iney qas ka dhex wadaan bulshada oo ay dastuurka jabiyeen. Dhinaca Kale Raysal wasaare Saacid oo Hotelkiisa jooga wuxuu wadaa dadaal uu ugu jiro inuu Masuuliyiinta ugu sareysa Jubooyinka iyo Gedo ee wada howsha Maamul u sameynta Jubooyinka iyo Gedo uu kala furfuro, taasina uma suuroobin. Inkastoo labadii guddi ee shirey ay balameen iney berri oo khamiisa ay mar kale is arkaan haddana waxaa loo badinayaa inuusan jiri doonin wax kulan ah berri halkaasna ay Raysal wasaraha iyo wafdigiisu berri u duuli doonaan Muqdisho iyagoon wax guula ka gaarin safarkooda Kismaayo. Faahfaahin buuxda dhowaan naga filo oo warkaan ku saabsan iyo falan qaynta Dublamasiyiinta Kismaayo jooga ee labada dhinac.

Carafaat;930857 wrote: XX, Somali Bantu waa Somali. Stop talking about them as if they are something exotic. They are Somalis but ur obsessed with their culture which is Booty shaking:D

So much hatred SMH

Presidential candidates Cabdi casiis Maxammad samaale current Minister of finance Muse Biixi cabdi current Kulmiye chairman Axmed Maxamamd Maxamuud Siilaanyo current President of Somaliland Jamac shabeel current Chairman of the Kulmiye central committee Maxammad kaahin current deputy of the Kulmiye party Vice Presidential candidates Abdiraxamaan seylici Current vice president of Somaliland Former Minister of justice of Somaliland Professor ismaciil muumin aare selebaan ciise xaglatoosiye current Somaliland Minister of Resettlement Baashe Maxammad Farax current Deputy speaker of Somaliland Current Somaliland defense Minister Axmed xaaji cali cadami

Xisbiga KULMIYE Oo Cayimay Shirkiisa Golaha Dhexe March 26th, 2013 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Xisbiga tallada haya ee KULMIYE, ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay 31-ka Bishan ay qaban doonaan shirkoodii Golaha dhexe. Sidaasna waxa lagu sheegay qoraal kooban oo war-gelin ah oo uu soo saaray Xoghayaha Golaha Dhexe Mustafe Maxamed Yoonis, waxaanu u dhignaa sidan:- “Xoghayaha Golaha Dhexe ee xisbiga KULMIYE wuxuu ku wargelinayaa dhammaan xubnaha Golaha Dhexe ee xisbiga KULMIYE inay ka soo qaybgalaan shirkii Golaha Dhexe ee xisbiga KULMIYE oo dhici doona 31/03/2013, ahna maalin Axad ah, kana dhici doona Huteelka Maansoor markay saacaddu tahay 9:30 subaxnimo, shirkaas oo socon doona hal maalin. Mar labaad dhammaan xubnaha Golaha Dhexe ee xisbiga KULMIYE waxaan ku adkaynaynaa inay ka soo qaybgalaan shirkaas oo aanay ka maqnaan.”

Mintid Hirsi has multiple jobs he does his part of the foreign policy he some times operates as a prime minister and some times as a peace maker between elders. Some times he is the goverment spokesmen

malistar2012;930748 wrote: Soon Xamar will be the deciding factor Xamar already signed a deal with the garowe clan enclave and they ignored it all together the whole issue, u sure live in your own little world.

Somalis know eachother well enough, after all we do speak one language, share a religion, share an ethnicity and a culture that is in many ways the same notwithstanding the unsertandable regional differences and there are regional differences in all countries. And if we do not know eachother well, we will get to know eachother well. I am talking about the Somalis in the Somalis republic, who are now, this very moment and have been in recent history in one single country that is internationally recognised, can be found on all maps of the world and is a member of the United Nations of the world. That country is the Somali Republic . Not true Somalilanders have never lived in Somalia before 1960 we got to know each other in 1960 politically socially nor did Somalilanders and the Koonfurians share a state or the same history in that sense. We never shared the same political culture nor the same tradition and cultural its self is a wider phenomena. We wont get to know each other because since 1991 we unintentionally developed separate political and national identities. Whether the former Somali republic is recognized as one nation or not is irrelevant of how Somalis know each other surely the UN will not bring them closer to each other. Somalis may not have shared a country before 1960 and we may not have a had a modern state but this is not a prerequisite to living in a country together, peacefully and working together to achieve common aims. i agree but because it never happened before and because it was a short lived experiment there are several aspirations working together can happen but on equal terms and respecting each others sovereignty. The reason why the Somali goverment failed was because it was badly structured and managed. The last Somali government failed because it was autocrative, oppresive, practiced nepotism and it used force against its own people. there was a concentration of power and there were no independently functioning national institutions which meant that when the cgovernment was overthrown the country came to a standstill and there was a lack of governance or public service provision. This is not something that is set in stone or cement, this is something that can be changed. The political structures can be changed to make government more decentralised, more effective,more accountable and more democratic. Institutions can be built and they can be made independent from government and there can be checks in place to make sure that they too are effective and accountable. You are right on that one that the Kacaan goverment and the governments before the kacaan were corrupt but it also because the people who controlled those goverments were highly corrupt. The political structures can be changed but you cannot change Koonfurian Politicians the divisions between them and the Mafia culture is very much present in Somalia. The state resources will always be some how used by a community against the other. Maybe to lesser extend as it was before but it will happen. The modern state is historically speaking a fairly recent development in many parts of the world, the Somali republic included. But if you say that Somalis cannot share a country then I say that Somalis in the north cannot share a country either. If you say that Somalis in the north (so called Somalilanders of which I am one) can share a country then i say that all Somalis can share a country. It is a matter of how and not if. It is question of how can we best share our country and work together and not can we share a county. And now you claim a Somalilander it gets funnier , but the thing is Somalilanders have shown they can share a country they have shown they can built a nation from scratch they have shown they can elect their leaders by casting their votes. They have shown what it is to have a unity. Somalis in Djibouti do not wish to share a country with Somalia , thats another example. The Somalis in Kenya are happy with their situation in kenya no one is calling for this ill unity only the folks of the south. Not true if Somaliland has oil and other resources and have better business incentives , it will be no use to share that wealth with Somalia when it can invest in their own country and people that will be much more profitable for Somalilanders and and higher overall GDP can be achieved. Having political and economic leverage when it comes to European countries and their market laws and prices for the export products of our countries can be played through a regional cooperation including several countries forming blocks and forging closer trade unions Countries like Djibouti Ethiopia Somalia Eritrea Somaliland Kenya can all work together when it comes to that. As for having a huge army i don't see why that is very necessary at the moment, Somaliland is not going at war with any one. Our fates are interdepedent and interlinked. Somaliland has not been recognised for the past 22 years and Somalis from the South have been flocking to the northern regions. When Somalis in the South are at peace that is also in the interest of Somalilanders as our fates are intertwined. Koonfurians have been flocking into Kenya to why is that a special case, i believe Somaliland if it was recognized the past 22 years it would have been far more developed than its now. Somalia in peace is also in the interests of Somaliland since Somalia is a neighbor Somaliland wishes to see a peaceful Somalia. Somaliland will relise only small marginal benefits economically. Because Somaliland will be a tiny impoverished, corrupt, desert country with bad governancel, no laws, no institutions, no infrastructure and incidentally happens to be next to the war ravaged Somali republic, And Somalia will have great infrastructure and have the best economy in Africa and will be a self reliant nation and will not be corrupt. Now i cannot take you really serious when it comes to that Somaliland has shown that it is possible to rebuild a nation ofcourse its still poor and there is huge unemployment but that all can be changed if Somalilanders work hard for their country and its heading the right direction for now. There you wrong again Somalilanders are very creative and very skillful i think that is one of the greatest things they have as people the country is not small. It doesn't need massive foreign investment it just needs to create a home grown economy based on industry in different sectors. Somaliland just needs to start an innovation based economy consisting of technology entrepreneurship and industry of different viaraties as they will find a way to create a higher productivity among its own people they will continue to invest in their own people. They have the people its people are highly educated they also have a full functioning state in place. It doesn't need Somalia a failed state to have a better Somaliland it doesn't any country in the world it has shown that. But there is no prescient in all of this and it needs to be done, through a process and i am sure Somalilanders will get there, because they are determined.

^^ Yeah sure but Abdul disagrees