Xamar ugu yaraan ku dho dhowaad 3 malyan oo qof ba degan its the largest Somali city and the oldest. there is no city that can compete with Xamar, there is no iskudir , But Xamar is ur capital and will remain ur capital.

Somalia = Mogadishu and Mogadishu = Somalia

Waranle you do know the talks between Somaliland and Somalia began last year , Somaliland was always ready to talk to the Koonfurians and finally they have something that resembles a goverment so talking can begin

^^ Somaliland was ready in September it was the Mogadishu admin that was not ready and needed to sort out things, and turkey it is.

Odaygee Khadarow.

Somaliland Oo Ku Dhawaaqday Inay Somaliya Wada-hadalo Kula Yeelanayso Dalka Turkiga Laba Toddobaad Ka Dib Hargeysa (Ramaas) Apr 1,2013 – Wasiirka Wasaarada arimaha dibada Somaliland, ayaa goor dhawayd ku dhawaaqay in Somaliland iyo Somaliya ay laba toddobaad ka dib wada-hadalo uga furmayaan dalka Turkiga. Wasiirka arimaha dibada Dr Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar oo shir-jaraa’id ku qabtay Aqalka Madaxtooyada Somaliland, ayaa shaaciyey in dawladda Turkigu ku casuuntay in labada dawladood ee Somaliland iyo Somaliya ay dalkeeda ku wada-hadlaan, taasina ay labada dhinacba aqbaleen. Wasiirka oo arimahaa ka hadlayaana waxa uu yidhi “Dawladda Turkiga oo saaxiib la’ ah Somaliland iyo Somaliya waxay labada dawladood ku marti qaaday inay dib u bilaabaan wada-hadaladii hore u bilaabmay, labada geesoodna arinkaasi way soo dhaweeyeen, markaa waxaanu qaadanay in muddo aan ka badnayn 2 toddobaad gudahood ka dib ay labada waddan ku wada hadlaan dalka Turkiga, markaa waxaan doonayaa inaan shacabka iyo beesha caalamkaba ku wargalino in martiqaadkaasi dawladda Turkiga aanu aqbalnay, si aanu qadiyada Somaliland uga midho dhalino” Ramaasnews Desk Hargeisa

interesting development this is good the Talks should re start i was almost thought it would take months before they restart.

^^ well i do believe Somalia should not be divided along tribal lines but koonfurians love tribalism they have 4.5 and clan federalism is about to be reality soon, so what do you want me to do. Should Somaliland take Somalia as an example and be divided along tribal lines. Djibouti a small country inhabited by 2 ethnic groups are united.

Taleexiyow kale tegi meyno our destiny is intertwined remember always taleexi blood is thicker than water. Ma garanayo burco badan buhoodle badan ceerigaaba badan laascaanood ba badan wuxu salax ka sheekenayo , dadku wa isla dadki uun wa isku hooyo isku aabo.

xiinfaniin;932964 wrote: Your rhetorical question is answered by your active prayers in this forum...xaaji masaajidka ciyaarta ka daa Iyagabanu salaada isku xidhana safun saffah, most of these communities wabay iga ducaystan, ana kheyrkaan ku afuufa.

Haatu;932970 wrote: Wow, you truly are delusional. I wonder, if you repeat something often, do you end up believing it Xaaji? Somalilanders can and will not be divided along tribal lines they are one family who share the same history ethics traditions culture and last but not least share one nation. Dugsi maleh qabyaalaadi waxay dumiso mooyaane eh.

Reer Somaliland walaalo reer Laascaanood are the brothers of reer buhoodle and reer buhoodle are the brothers of reer Burco. The Garaad clan are fellow Somalilanders there is no problem between Somalilanders, these demographics with in Somalilanders is not important , since Somalilanders are one nation.

Taleexi Madaxweynaha maxaad ku maagtay?

xiinfaniin;932942 wrote: Xaaji, the enemy clan is the one you despise in Jubba , in Puntland , in Khatumo and in Jigjiga, so don't deny your deep wishes to see them weakened and defeated , they have Allaah though and have survived How can i despise those communities when they are my closest family

Apophis;932941 wrote: You want me to defend my "goal", I won't, in the same way you're not defending yours, as you assume it's a given; mine is too. Well there are few things that need to be said before we go into that how does the goverment view Jubbaland Kismayo, the AU troops there and the raskambooni movement Second how does it view Somaliland in the said talks and how does it want to clarify the future relations between SL and Somalia. Is there a clanish undertone playing a role from the HAG elements in Xamar, who do want to have a say in the Kismayo affairs. i will be defending Somaliland from, Hassan culusow and his goverment when it comes to dealing with him and keeping SL independent sovereign from any one Now Apophis when are you going to defend Jubbaland Waranle does a far better job than you and you claim to be a native how does that work.

I have no problem with Jubbaland or any other state i am just analyzing how the government is approaching this state from the beginning i said it before the current goverment of Somalia wishes to have one entity from southern galkacyo to the Kenyan border. This is what i think but people forming their own state i have no problem with that. My philosphy was always waxay dadku isla jecelyihin xaajiguna wala jecelyahay.

Xiinfaniin there is no such thing as an Enemy clan Back to the topic there are many people who lost their properties in Mogadishu and many of them lost their documents in the war so it will be hard to verify. Perhaps the looters themselves should proof they own these properties?

Apophis you are more focused on me if i join Ukraine or join the aboriginals that is not your main concern isn't your main objective the establishment of a Jubbaland, hadalku ninkan halku wax ka mara. its like you do not even want to reach your goal?

^^ Che when u fled Xamar i think the last think you thought was where are the documents of my house, but more get the cash and lets move out.

^^ Thats more like it and now we have to discuss what they are planning and how are they going make it happen

Ooh this is going to be interesting

Apophis what i want is not important because that was clear from the begnining what the Mogadishu goverment wants is more important and they are hinting for a decentralized form of governance.

Envy why should i Envy them , SL and Jubbaland have no border quarrels or conflicting interests Xiinfaniin stop creating unnecessary problems. So Xiin what do you think the next step of the government will be

Xiinfaniin do you think Siilaanyo will change his mind and be honest what do you think. I think he is addressing the issue because SL media have been reporting that there were some sort of political pressures coming from Washington and London regarding the London conference and Somaliland possible absence from that conference.

But we are not pursuing the same dreams well at least not in the same way , Somaliland and the O'gadenia can be compared in different dimension but not when it comes to the Kismayo objective and Somaliland aspirations. And how the Mogadishu goverment approaches the 2 are also very different. But my question what is next from here forget about what people will get and not get. What is next for the Jubbaland community who want to establish a state.