Turkey to host three-way talks with presidents of Somalia, Somaliland 8 April 2013 /SİNEM CENGİZ, ANKARA Turkey will hold a meeting with leaders of Somalia and Somalia's autonomous Somaliland region in İstanbul on April 13, according to Turkish diplomatic sources. A senior Turkish diplomat who spoke to Today's Zaman on the condition of anonymity stated that after the tripartite meeting, which will also be attended by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and Somaliland President Ahmed Mahamoud Silanyo may also come together in a tête-à-tête meeting, adding that the two leaders may also hold talks with Turkish officials in Ankara after their meeting in İstanbul. “Turkey will hold a tripartite meeting with the two leaders in order to facilitate the dialogue between them. This is the first meeting of its kind between the two leaders and Turkey is very pleased that the meeting is taking place in İstanbul. Turkey is ready to do its part for the maintenance of the dialogue between the two leaders. We are facilitating rather than mediating with this meeting,” said the diplomat. Somaliland unilaterally declared its independence as a de facto sovereign state in 1991 after a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation's long-standing military government. The area is internationally recognized as an autonomous region of Somalia. According to the diplomat, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan may also come together with the two leaders if his schedule permits. During his first diplomatic visit to Turkey in late December after taking office, Mohamud expressed his gratitude to the Turkish government and the nation for their support and aid and for instilling hope in Somalis. Mohamud, Somalia's president since last September, was invited to Turkey by his counterpart, President Abdullah Gül. Silanyo visited Turkey in mid-March to have talks with Turkish officials, including Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase aid efforts to Somaliland. During his visit, Silanyo was also scheduled to meet with Erdoğan; however, the meeting had to be canceled due to Erdoğan's poor health. The diplomat stated that five ministers from the Somaliland side also attended the Davutoğlu-Silanyo meeting, which was closed to the press. Following the meeting between Davutoğlu and Silanyo, the delegations came together over a working meal. According to the diplomat, the sides discussed the projects of the Turkish International Cooperation and Development Agency (TİKA) and other Turkish nongovernmental organizations in Somaliland. “The Turkish foreign minister pledged to increase Turkey's aid efforts in all regions of Somalia, including Somaliland. He also underlined that Somaliland is of great importance to Turkey due to historical ties that have existed since the Ottoman era,” said the diplomat. According to the diplomat, Davutoğlu also pledged to continue his support for the reconciliation, stability, prosperity and development of Somalia. During the meeting, he also emphasized Turkey's commitment to the integrity of Somalia, said the source. Aid from Turkey in the aftermath of the 2011 famine in Somalia, the opening of the Turkish Embassy in Mogadishu in November 2011 and a visit by Erdoğan in August 2011 to the country provided momentum for the relationship between Turkey and Somalia.

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I am not praying for failure , but i am just predicting what the government will do and that's another thing for me it doesn't matter whether jubbaland becomes a federal state as it is now or not. But i am just saying where process is headed.

xiinfaniin;935695 wrote: ^^Ma Fawziyaa kuu sheegtay ? There is no shir, xaaji xunjuf The conference is in full preparation Xiinfaniin you will be disappointed soon

oba hiloowlow;935839 wrote: its gone and it aint coming back.Alhamdulilah. We shall replace it with a statue of a real hero Sheikh Hassan Barsane Rahimullah That sounds very good

This is going to be interesting the withdrawn their support yesterday and now the clan did the same we already know that a significant gedo faction is opposed to the conference and they are inline with the government of Somalia. This seems to be a conference now just for the azanians a faction of gedo and the Pirates. The rest are not on board let see how this ends in the next coming weeks.

“Meeshii danta Somaliland lagaga hadlayo ee maslaxadu noo tilmaantana waanu tagaynaa” April 8th, 2013 “Somaliland waxay doonaysaa in madax-banaanideeda dunidu ictiraafto oo ay ogolaato” “Inaynu shirkan Tagno Danteena ayaa Ku Jirta” Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)-Madaxweynaha Somaliland Mudane Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) iyo wefti heer qaran ah oo uu Hoggaaminayay ayaa maanta socdaal ugu kicitimay dalka Turkiga, halkaasi oo ay kaga qeyb galayaan wada hadalo fool-ka fool ah oo ay la yeelan doonaan dawladda Soomaaliya oo ay marti-gelisay ama gogoshiisa dhigtay xukuumadda Turkigu. Madaxweynaha Somaliland oo waxyar ka hor intii aanay u kicitimin Turkiga qolka nasashada ee madaarka Hargeysa kula hadlay warbaahinta ayaa tafaasiil ka bixiyay socdaalkiisa, waxaanu yidhi “Waxaanu maanta u baxaynaa dalka Turkiga oo la noogu martiqaaday wada hadal u dhexeeya Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya, inaga siyaasadeenu waxay ahayd goor walba, mar kasta in meeshii danta Somaliland lagaga hadlayo ee danta iyo maslaxadu noo tilmaantana waanu tagaynaa. Way jireen wada-hadalo badan oo aynu ka qayb-galnay, meelo aynu ka gows qabsanayna way jiraan sababo ah inay inoo cuntami waayeen.” Madaxweyne Axmed Siilaanyo oo hadalkiisa sii watay wuxuu yidhi “Markaa halkaasi ayaanu tagaynaa waxaana inoo furmaya wada hadaladii, madax badan oo raysal-baarlamaanku ka mid yahayna waanu ku tagaynaa iyo masuuliyiinta axsaabtu. Waxaanu rajaynaynaa inaanu halkaa wixii qadiyadeena ah gaadhsiino oo aanu dunida gaadhsiino, inaynu shirarkan tagnaana danteena ayaa ku jirta.” cida qadiyadeeda iyo madax-banaanideeda inay dunida gaadhsiiso la doonayaana waa inaga, taana mar walba diyaar-baanu u nahay inaanynu qaran ahaan u dhamaano xisbiyada haddii aynu nahay iyo haddii aanu dawladda nahayba, markaa waxaanu rajeynaynaa inaanu guul kala soo noqono,”ayuu yidhi Madaxweynuhu. Madaxwayne Siilaanyo oo la waydiiyey inuu bulshada u sharaxo ajandaha shirka Turkiga ayaa yidhi “Ajandihiisa cadaan lanoogama dhigin oo wax kow iyo laba aan odhan karayo maaha, laakiin waa Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya oo la wada-hadalsiinayo, laakiin Soomaaliya waxay doonaysaa in laga mid noqdo, Somaliland-na waxay doonaysaa in madax-banaanideeda dunidu ictiraafto oo ay ogolaato.” Guddoomiyeyaasha axsaabta siyaasadda ee qaranka iyo xubno ka tirsan golaha Wasiirrada oo ay ka mid yihiin Wasiirrada Arrimaha dibadda, Madaxtooyadda, shaqada iyo arrimaha bulshadda, Cadaalada. Madaxweynaha Somaliland waxa madaarka ku sii sagootiyay Madaxweyne Ku xigeenka Somaliland Mudane C/Raxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) iyo xubno ka mid ah Golaha Wasiirrada, iyadoo uu halkaasi salaan sharaf kaga qaatay cutubyo ka tirsan ciidamada qaranka. Xukuumadda Somaliland ayaa sheegtay inay ajiibtay marti-qaadka ay ka heleen dalka Marti-gelinaya wada hadaladan ay yeelanayaan Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya. Waxaanay ku dooday in kulankani u qabsoomi doono Somaliland oo dhinac ah iyo Soomaaliya oo darafka kale ah. Shirkan ayaa dabo socda laba shir oo ka horeeyay oo kal-hore lagu kala qabtay Ingiriiska iyo Imaaraadka carabta oo lagu saxeexay heshiis ka koobnaa lix qodob oo dulucdiisu ahayd in la sii ambo-qaado wada hadalada labada geesood u bilowday iyo inay ka shaqeeyaan masaalixda mandaqada sida la dagaalanka argagixisada iyo kifaaxa lagula jiro budh-cad badeedka. Sidoo kale, waxa xukuumaddu ay hore u sheegtay inaanay ka qeyb galaynin shirka 6-da Bisha May ee fooda inagu soo haysa ka qabsoomi doona magaaladda London ee dalka Ingiriiska, kaasi oo ay shaaca ka qaadeen inaanu wax faa’iido ahi ugu jirin qaranimadda Somaliland balse uu yahay shir u khaas ah dawlada laga yab-yabay Soomaaliya iyo qaadhaan-bixiyeyaasha oo loo weydiinayo inay dhaqaale ugu yaboohaan si ay cagaheeda iskugu taagto dawladan duruufaysani.

Puntland started state building in 1998 and went to war twice jamac cali jamac versus cabdilahi Yusuf internal struggles The galmudug clan was in Xamar fighting for their place in xamar and pushing further south and they wasted their energy on each other if they made a deal with unuka they would today be sitting in villa Somalia with out Amisom. The first time Puntlanders started looking south was in 2004 when cabdilahi Yusuf was elected,

Because in the 90s they were in control of Mogadishu they had all the power controling from Galkacyo to the Kenyan border they had 60% of the former SNA army arsenal was in their hands. Not just them but the entire habar gangstar clan were the top dogs having colonies in Lower shabelle and lower jubbah. But their power was broken or it was diminishing because of the habr gangster and unuka wars in the early 90s. And than the US intervention. Having power is one thing but to keep that power is another thing. They kept dominating eventhough they lost allot when abdiqasims hotel government was formed even with the ICU they were the king makers. But with the xabashi invasion they lost everything their capital their army their influance and were reduced to crawl back to their ancestral home land Galguduud and Southern Mudug.

http://togaherer.com/madaxweyne-siilaanyo-iyo-wafti-uu-hogaaminayo-oo-u-baxay-wadanka-turkey-kagana-qayb-galaya-wada-hadalada-somaliland-iyo-somalia/ President siilaanyo with a huge delegation jets off to Turkey Minister of justice Minisiter of foreign affairs Chief of cabinet Xirsi xaaji cali Duputy parliament speaker Minister of Housing and social affairs

Dawlada Soomaaliya oo Codsatay In Lagu Soo Wareejiyo Maamul u Sameynta Jubbooyinka Shirka IGAD waxaa dawlada Soomaaliya uga qeybgalaya wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Fawsiya Yuusuf. Addis Ababa (RBC) Dawlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa shir ay iyada dalbatay oo ka socda magaalada Addis Ababa ee xarunta wadanka Ethiopia horgeysay codsi ah in lagu soo wareejiyo qorshaha maamul u sameynta gobolka Jubbada Hoose. Shirkan oo maanta furmay ayaa waxaa ka qeybgalaya wasiirada arrimaha dibadda ee toddobada xubnood ee xubnaha ka ah Urur Goboleedka IGAD waxaana dhanka dawlada federaalka Soomaaliya uga qeybgalaya raysul wasaare ku xigeenka ahna wasiirka arrimaha dibadda Fawsiya Yuusuf Xaaji Aadan. Wasiir Fawsiya oo shalay ka dhooftay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa ka hor safarkeeda waxay wariyaasha ugu sheegtay garoonka diyaaradaha Muqdisho in shirka Addis Ababa uu ku saleysan yahay hindise ka yimid dawlada Soomaaliya oo la xiriira qorshaha Xasilinta iyo Dejinta ee Heer Qaran [NATIONAL SECURITY AND STABILIZATION PLAN NSSP] kaasoo la dejiyey sanadkii 2011 xilligii dawladii ku-meelgaarka ahayd. Wasiir Fawsiya ayaa sheegtay in dawlada Soomaaliya ay diiday in qorshahan Xasilinta iyo Dejinta ay maamulaan dawladaha deriska la ah Soomaaliya oo xubno ka ah Urur Goboleedka IGAD. Dhanka kale wararka naga soo gaaraya shirkan wasiirada arrimaha dibadda IGAD uga socda Addis Ababa ayaa sheegaya in dawlada Soomaaliya ay miiska keentay cabasho ku aadan in faragelin lagu hayo xasilinta dalka, isla markaana dawladu ay dooneyso in maamul u sameyn Jubbooyinka lagu soo wareejiyo. Danjiraha Soomaaliya u jooga Addis Ababa Siciid Yuusuf Nuur oo u waramay idaacadda VOA ayaa sheegay inaysan jirin sabab dawlada Soomaaliya u codsato inay maamusho dalkeeda, isla markaana wuxuu danjiruhu beeniyey in gobol gaar ah oo Soomaaliya ka mid ah looga hadlay shirka wasiirada arrimaha dibadda IGAD.

Amiir godane is an islamist so there is no dealing with him what you want sl to do convince him to leave shabaab and become a normal sl citizen lol Fawziyaa dalki ay u dhaxday bay joogta she said her self that she is helping her in laws she her self does not even belief in the sl,somalia union she was asked on voa she didnt answer the question You heard prof samatar the other day that only two tribes can lead somalia, its just matter of time he comes home or goes Back to America. Galaydh helped built somaliland he even ran for vp in1993 he does not really represent the garaad clan but him self when he was pm of carta xaaabsade who was interior minister of pl stopped all the garaad elders from going to xamar particularly garaad candiqani. Xaabsade spoke for his clan and dissowned galaydh with the full support of his people his clan. So whether galaydh comes back home or not will not change anything.

Your kinda 53 years to late, somalilanders were intrerested sharing power with you. But you were not you showed that they are not welcome, the brothers in djibouti saw this and didnt join it was smart of them Had you taken the back seat and promoted real somalism like the somalilanders did you would have had a chance. So now a union is not atractive it will never really there is nothing u really can offer somalilanders. You dont have a great economy nor great resources somalilanders need.its you who need somaliland, but somaliland doesnt need somalia. Somaliland is not closer to you than a somali from kenya or a somali from djibouti or from ethiopia.

They the somalilanders they created the union 53 years ago and they took it back not true sh cali dhere doesnt believe in somali sovereignity he believes there are no borders between muslims

The sage their claim is not based on rational thinking, they dont care for somaliweyn they will call somalis from kenya, foreigners, etc these people think they have a close bond with somalilanders. When there is no such thing

Malistar these are individuals fawziya is the same as buubaa omaar prof samatar,. Most sl politician in somalia bring nothing to the table Amiir godane is from different stock though an has foreign jihadist as his allies Somaliland has no interest in leading somalia its unproductive and it will lead to nothing let koonfurians lead their country and let the two countries live side by side

Amiir godane wants to liberate southern Somalia from Amisom and foreign mercenaries he believes that is the right way forward Sheikh adan siiro says that Alshabaab are wrong people and are not following the true path Marwo Fawziya works for an islamist group islaah damul jadid government and they are guarded by amisom forces They all share the same nationality but not the same ideology The same way Sheikh cali dhere is Alshabaab Hassan culusow is islaax damul jadiid president Yes they share the same nationality

oba hiloowlow;935544 wrote: xaaji is he a politician or a sheikh the dude seem to be confused of his role. fitnah qabe weeye in islam politics and religion are intertwined, waligi fitne kama shaqeyn he owns several businesses in Somaliland, he is a father an imam a sheikh a politician, all allowed in islam.

Sheikh Adan siiro is the most well versed in Islamic history i ever listened to , Alshabaab hates him to because he rejects suicide bombings

^^ How is he Munafaq?

Sheikh adan siiro favorite song anagu xamar dooni meyno xumaana u geysan mayno.

The mufti is not joking around , Somaliland is here to stay and will not bow down for any one.

Maybe ileey wants a higher position with in the EPRDF party

Waranle adigu ma Punt land baad tahays mise Jubbaland , ileen federalism wa goboleysi qof ba gobol bu ka so jeeda , adigu Jubbaland uun baad u hadlaysa mise adigi ba Jubbaland kala garan wayey.

No one knows who is majority and who is not what needs to be done is a clear clan census