Doctor you are right somalis wouldve destroyed that bridge the same way they destroyed beautiful xamar.brother chimera is a bit optimistic nothing wrong with that. But somalis can never be like eritreans

Stoic do not confuse the garaad clan with khatumo, the garaad clan is part and Parcel of sl they have helped built this nation, khatumo is one faction hiding in taleex. Khatumo cannot break nor make sl, sl has a strong foundation ssc was more of a problem to sl than khatumo. Ssc was a real jabhad. Khatumo hardly fights after a year and a half they havent made any progress . Galaydh is welcome in sl its his country but if he prefers to stay in xamar its find to. It wont change anything.

^^ He cannot do that HAG and the other clans dominate the parliament and jawaaris people ofcourse , galaydh and his faction are between a rock and a hard place. He cannot make peace with Siilaanyo he will lose credibility with in his khatumo faction. There is not much for him in xamar. He cannot make peace with the garowe clan enclave he will lose credibility with in his khatumo faction and , he will go down as a flipflopper since the professor and the pirates were never the best buddies.

Abyey is still in dispute nevertheless this was a win of basheer, but the south sudanese are not sitting still either , they are building a port in lamu and they are building a pipe line through ethiopia up to Djibouti. They are considering different options since they are land locked.

Haatu whats the dhibic.

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Tougher Somaliland-Somalia talks ahead Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:34 By: Liban Ahmad Somalilandsun - Twenty two years ago president Ahmed Mohamed Mohamud (Silanyo) of Somaliland wrote a paper entitled "A Proposal To The Somali National Movement: On A Framework For A Transitional Government In Somalia. " In the paper President Silanyo, then, former SNM Chairman, cautioned against forming a government in Mogadishu following the ouster of the military dictatorship in 1991 without consulting 'liberation movements', and reprisals against civilians. United Somali Congress leaders heeded neither suggestion. They formed an interim administration led by Ali Mahdi Mohamed and failed to rein in their militias, who committed widespread human rights violations. Now president Silaanyo is the first president of Somaliland to be able to hold talks with a Mogadishu-based government. Representatives from Somaliland administration and the former Mogadishu-based Transitional Federal Government, the predecessor of Somali Federal Government, met last year under an arrangement by the British government. Federalism, on which the Somali government institutions are based, is the second factor that made the talks possible. Since Somalia's successive federal governments have banked on the support of African forces , mostly from Somalia's neighbouring countries in favour of a federal system for Somalia, the former Transitional Federal Government leaders refrained from policies that could destabilise Somaliland, as Wikileaks entry on the late Somali president Abdillahi Yusuf Ahmed dated 24/11/2004 has shown. The outcome of Ankara meeting held yesterday gives strong hints about Somaliland intentions to be pragmatic about the status of the Somali Federal Government and its privileges in the international fora. Somaliland has given the Somali Federal Government the green light to ensure Somaliland gets its share of the development aid. This is a remarkable success for Somaliland since it will continue to maintain its partnership with development or multilateral agencies such as USAID, SIDA, DFID and the World Bank. However , cooperation could be derailed by the Somali FederalGovernment's drive to take advantage of its status that reinstated Somalia's membership in such agencies as International Monetary Fund. Will the Somali Federal Government consult Somaliland administration on any talks with IMF regarding new loans for post-war reconstruction? Somali Federal Government proposals to IMF for loans will not leave out Somaliland because of sovereigntygrounds but failure to discuss those issues with major stakeholders such as Somaliland could undermine all that has been achieved through talks. In other words, will Somalilandland consider legitimate agreements Somali Federal Governments signs with multilateral organisations without the input of Somaliland administration? Follow-up talks between the Somali Federal Government andSomaliland Administration have paved the way for tougher talks in the future. Decisions made in Mogadishu will affect Hargeisapolitically in the near future. That is why political issues were shelved during the talks between Somali Federal Government andSomaliland administration in Ankara.

I have no doubts parliamemts will approve it the question is will they agree in 89 days

Carafaat you are right this is the govt sl has to deal with it took the koonfurians 22 years to have a govt, and now the two sides are taking steps to restore relations. We must support it if the somalis both in somalia and somaliland dont talk no one will solve our problems

Somalis in the sixties and seventies were different they were people who wanted to build a great foundation. The somalis today are nothing like them by the way eritreans are extreme nationalist and so is their dictator. Somalis are the least nationalist people in africa

Somaliland commends Turkish role in facilitating talks with Somalia 14 April 2013 /GÖZDE NUR DONAT, ANKARA Ahmed Silanyo, the president of the autonomous Somaliland region, has expressed deep appreciation to Turkish officials on their determination to revive a process of dialogue between the governments of Somaliland and Somalia to end their two-decade-long dispute. “Turkey has played a very important role in trying to bring different sides together during the Somali conflict. They have consistently put an effort into establishing stability and promoting development in the region,” Silanyo said during an exclusive interview with Today's Zaman in Ankara on Sunday. “We live in a volatile region where there are many security problems. It is our wish to continue to engage in dialogue [with other actors] in the region,” Silanyo noted. He visited Turkey in mid-March to participate in talks with Turkish officials, including Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase Turkish aid to Somaliland. Although it lacks international recognition, Somaliland enjoys a degree of governance, security and economic development absent in the broader Somalia, from which it declared independence in 1991. Somalia's troubles result from a 22-year-long civil war in the country, which began in 1991 when a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation's long-standing military government. Somaliland has been an environment of relative peace amid the civil war in Somalia. Turkey has hosted the latest round of facilitation talks between the Somali and Somaliland governments as part of efforts to negotiate Somaliland's status. Somaliland is seeking international recognition as a separate country, while Somalia envisions a unified country including the territory. ARABAŞLIK Silanyo: Turkey playing constructive role in entire region The Somaliland president commended Turkey's active role in the region as a whole in addition to the developments in Somalia and Somaliland. “Turkey is establishing many programs that are useful to the region as a whole. We express our deep appreciation to Turkey for its constructive role in the region,” Silanyo maintained. The Somaliland president stated that his country has been described in international circles as an encouraging oasis of peace in the Horn of Africa for its stability and welcoming environment for investment. “Our territory has tremendous potential in many areas, including agriculture, infrastructure construction and many others. We also have rich mineral resources, including oil,” Silanyo said, discussing investment opportunities. Turkish companies have begun to initiate economic projects in the territory. Last December, Turkish oil giant Genel Energy PLC purchased a license to explore for oil in Somaliland.

Sudan's Bashir pledges peace in first South Sudan visit since split By Khalid Abdelaziz and Andrew Green | Reuters – Fri, Apr 12, 2013 By Khalid Abdelaziz and Andrew Green JUBA (Reuters) - Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir said on Friday he wanted peace and normal relations with South Sudan in his first visit there since it split off from his country in 2011 after decades of civil war. The neighbors agreed in March to resume pumping oil through pipelines from south to north and ease the tensions which had threatened to reignite the war between them that had killed more than two million people. Diplomats hope Bashir's visit will help the two sides overcome deep mistrust and solve their remaining disputes over the ownership of Abyei and other contested border regions. Bashir, who canceled a visit to Juba a year ago when border fighting almost flared into full-scale war, said in a speech in the southern capital that he had ordered Sudan's borders with South Sudan to be opened for traffic. "I have instructed Sudan's authorities and civil society to open up to their brothers in the Republic of South Sudan," Bashir said, alongside South Sudan's President Salva Kiir. Kiir said he had agreed with Bashir to continue talks to solve all conflicts over disputed regions along their volatile 2,000 km (1,200 mile) frontier. "Some issues need more discussions," Kiir said, adding that he had accepted an invitation from Bashir, who was walking on his trademark walking stick, to visit Sudan soon, his second trip since the secession. Neither leader offered a solution for Abyei, a border region that contains fertile land, some oil and is highly symbolic. After their meeting in the presidential palace, Bashir swapped his business suit and tie for a traditional white robe to join Friday prayers in the "Kuwaiti" mosque in central Juba. "I came to Juba because we now have the biggest chance to make peace," he told 400 Muslim worshippers from South Sudan and the Sudanese expatriate community. "We won't go back to war. President Kiir and I agreed that the war was too long," said Bashir, who last visited Juba to attend South Sudan's independence ceremony on July 9, 2011. At a press conference, local journalists challenged Bashir for referring to the South's ruling party, the Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM), as "insects" when emotions ran high on both sides during last year's border fighting. "I didn't call the people of South Sudan insects...I cannot do this because I ruled them for 20 years," Bashir said, adding that he had only been making a play on the SPLM's Arabic name. He said Sudan had been hurt when South Sudan's army in April of last year briefly seized the Heglig oilfield, which is vital to Sudan's economy. "There was no justification for this," he said. "WE NEED PEACE" In the ramshackle capital Juba, where main roads were closed and festooned with the flags of both countries, residents said they hoped Bashir's visit would finally bring peace. "We need to live in harmony. We need peace between Sudan and South Sudan," said 22-year-old engineering student Robert Mori. Edmund Yakani, head of the Community Empowerment for Progress Organization (CEPO), which promotes civil society values, said Bashir's presence showed he wanted peace. South Sudan, the world's newest state, shut down its 350,000-barrel-a-day oil output in January 2012 at the height of a pipeline fee dispute, with devastating effect on both struggling economies. The two sides subsequently agreed to restart oil shipments, grant each others' citizens residency, increase border trade and encourage close cooperation between their central banks. Last week, South Sudan re-launched crude production with the first oil cargo expected to reach Sudan's Red Sea export terminal at Port Sudan by the end of May. Both nations withdrew troops from border areas as agreed in an African Union-brokered deal in September. But they took until March to set up the demilitarized border zone, due to mistrust. But even as Bashir's visit raised hopes of eased tension on Sudan's southern frontier, conflict has flared up again in its western region of Darfur, forcing some 50,000 Sudanese to flee into neighboring Chad over the past week. Fighting has ravaged Darfur since 2003 when mainly non-Arab rebels took up arms against Sudan's Arab-led government, accusing it of politically and economically marginalizing the region. The violence has fallen off from its peak in 2003 and 2004, but a fresh surge has forced more than 130,000 people to flee their homes this year, according to the United Nations. (Writing by Ulf Laessing; Editing by Pascal Fletcher and Michael Roddy)

Eritreans are very organized people and their diaspora pay tax to their government in Asmara, i dont see Somalis doing that.

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya iyo Wafdigii kala Qayb-galay shirkii Turkiga oo dib ugu soo laabtay Magaalada Muqdisho Axad, Abriil 14, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo wafdigii kala qaybgalay shirkii Turkiga oo isugu jiray wasiirro iyo xildhibaanno ka tirsan dowladda ayaa dib ugu soo laabtay saakay magaalada Muqdisho ee xarunta Soomaaliya. Wasiirka arrimaha gudaha ee Soomaaliya, C/kariin Xuseen Guuleed ayaa si kooban uga hadlay shirka iyo qodobbadii kasoo baxay, wuxuuna sheegay in ay ku faraxsan yihiin in shirka uu sii socon doono, lagana soo saaray qodobbo wax ku ool ah. “Shirka wuu sii soconayaa oo 90 maalmood kaddib ayaa la isugu tagayaan Turkiga, runtiina shirkan meel wanaagsan ayaa la keenay, waxaana rajo ka qabnaa in intaan la isaga soo dhawaan doono,” ayuu yiri Guuleed oo intaas ku daray in dhankooda ay ku faraxsan yihiin qodobbadii kasoo baxay shirka. C/kariin Guuleed ayaa dhinaca dowladda Soomaaliya u saxiixay heshiiska iskaashi ee ka koobnaa toddobada qodob, iyadoo dhinaca Somaliland uu u saxiixay wasiirka arrimaha dibadda, Maxamed Cabdullaahi Cumar. Inkastoo heshiiska lasoo dhaweeyay haddana waxaa jir qodobbo ay dadku si aad ugu wareersan yihiin kuwaasoo ay ka mid yihiin tababarrada ciidamada iyo wadaagga dhaqaalaha dibadda laga helo. Shacabka Soomaaliyeed qaarkood ayaa rumeysan in tani ay caddeyn u tahay in midnimada Soomaaliya ay aad u soo dhawaatay halka kuwo kalena ay u arkaan inay tahay sad-bursi ay sameynayso Somaliland maadaama ay dowladda Soomaaliya aqoonsi ka heshay caalamka. Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh oo intii uu ku sugnaa Turkiga ka hadlay sida uu u arko heshiiska ayaa sheegay inuu yahay mid wanaagsan ayna intii hore isaga soo dhawaadeen dowladda Soomaaliya iyo maamulka Somaliland oo ku dhawaaqay gooni-isu-taaggiisa 20-sano ka hor. Wadahadalladan ayaa waxaa gar-wadeen ka ahayd dowladda Turkiga, iyadoo madaxda Turkiga ay iyaguna muujiyeen sida ay ugu faraxsan yihiin heshiiska hordhaca ah ee ay gaareen hoggaamiyeyaasha Soomaalida ayna intan isaga sii dhawaan karaan

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SIILAANYO: “Somaliland kama laabanayso Moqifkeeda gooni-isu-taaga, balse diyaar ayaan u nahay wax wada-qabsi” Axad, Abriil 14, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Somaliland, Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) ayaa sheegay in heshiiskii ay isaga iyo madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud kala la saxiixday uu nuxukiisu ahaa sidii ay labada dal uga wadashaqeyn lahaayeen danahooda. Heshiiskan ayaa wuxuu dhigayay in dowladda Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay kawada shaqeeyaan dhinaca ammaanka, la dagaalanka burcadbadeedda iyo Al-shabaab iyo weliba inay wadaagaan deeqaha dibadaha ka imaanaya. “Heshiiska aan saxiixnay nuxurkiisu wuxuu ahaa sidii looga wada-shaqeyn lahaa danta iyo maslaxadda labada dal,” ayuu yiri Siilaanyo oo u waramayay idaacadda VOA-da isago intaas ku daray in Somaliland aanay marnaba ka laaban doonin go’aankeeda ku saabsan gooni-isku-taagga. Su’aal ahayd qaabka deeqaha loo wadaagayo iyo sida ammaanka ay labada dhinac u wada-sugayaan ayuu kaga jawaabay: “Sidii markii hore looga wada-shaqeyn jiray ayaa looga shaqeynayaa, waxaana laga hortagayaa wax walba oo dhibaato u keenaya sida burcadbadeedda iyo in wadahadallada lasii wado iyo in wax walba oo dhibaato ku keenaya gobolka la iska ilaaliyo.” Madaxweynaha Somaliland ayaa sidoo kale sheegay in Somaliland ay ka go’an tahay inay hesho aqoonsi caalami ah, isagoo sheegay in kulammada ay la yeelanayaan dowladda Soomaaliya ay tahay si ay caalamka u tusaan sida ay diyaarka ugu yihiin inay mandiqadda nabad kula noolaadaan. “Caalamka ayaa ogaanaya mowqifka Somoaliland ka taagan tahay gooni-isku-taageedda oo aan laga laabanayn ayna ku adag tahay inay madax-banaanideeda hesho, balse ay diyaar ayaan u nahay wax wadaqabsi iyo wixii labada dal dan u ah,” ayuu Siilaanyo kaga jawaabay su’aal ahayd faa’iidada Somaliland ugu jirta wadahadallada mar haddii aan laga hadlin gooni-isku-taaggooda. Dhanka kale, guddoomiyaha xisbiga mucaaradka ah ee UCID, Faysal Cali Waraabe oo isaguna la hadlay warbaahinta ayaa sheegay in Somaliland ay ka go’an tahay inay hesho aqoonsi caalami ah, isagoo sheegay inaysan dhici doonin in dib ay ula midoobaan Soomaaliya.

Dr_Osman;937974 wrote: The agreements at this meeting were no different to what Puntland signed with the PM. Move on boys Puntland is not impressed with this copycat meeting Puntland doesn't need to meet with SFG anywhere outside Garowe. Waxas wa gobinimadeena iyo kalsoonida aanu isku hayno. It seems somaliland needs mediator hold your own down waryaa rather then having another country hold your hand like a wife to protect u from the SFG. The DR is officially back UNLEASHING Ditoore your enclave is a mere province of Somalia , your leaders agreed with culusow to have one central army, remember the last agreement saacid signed with faroole that army will be controlled from Xamar. Your prime minister visited his region and signed a deal with his province you were part of the road map you helped built this government but ditoore ,cabdi cawar got sidelined matter infact the Puntlanders lost their influence in Xamar.

Ace what che is saying is that the war was based on tribes and he has a point there, and that it self needs to be solved although the sl tribes made peace and moved on excluding the khatumo faction

Turkey is not a sharia loving country nor do They have a real mediating role in these talks Nor does sl have interest joining a union with somalia if they wanted that they could have taken the lead , of somalia the past 22 years Somaliland pays a lobby group 22000 dollars a month

The talks are not to impress turkey but to show the world that sl and somalia are talking and to agree on something with somalia

Somali dee waligood waxay ahayeen qawmiyad aad u kala fog waligood dowlad ma wadaagin wadaagi mayaa. Magaca somali eeh magac u yalka uu ba ka dhexeya laakin dawlad yeelan mayaaan ay u dhan yihin because isticmaarka ka hor xita dawlad may lahayn marka wa caadi

Ace its going some where but the two sides need mediators in the next phase of talks

Its good step forward the former communique didnt had that ace But i believe if somalis dont talk we will never solve our problems