It seems that Hassan culusow and Saacid have a tight grip on the gedo administrators and stake holders this is going to be interesting in the next coming days i am welcoming this.

War Carafaat gabya babu noqon haduba hogaan Somaliyeed sidan ku raadinayo Dadku Carafaat haso dhaweyaan

We will see the result later lets have the referendum first and see where it goes from there if the majority of the people of SL vote for independence than independence if the majority of the people vote for union than union it is. Legend most regions in SL are all shared there is no region in SL where one clan or sub clan clearly is the majority.

A UN supervised referendum on indepedence for Somaliland if it makes the Koonfurians happy i see why not lets go for it. I think that Something Siilaanyo and co could actually sell to the people of Somaliland.

^^ If you control the land you have an important input in all decisions

Xasan Culusow iyo Siilaanyo ku kulmaya Istabul. Madaxweynaha dawladda Federaalak Soomalaiya Xasan Maxamuud Culusow iyo Hogaamiyaha maleeshiyaadka gooni goosadka Ahmed Siilaanyo ayaa lagu wadaa inay todobadkan danbe isku arkaan magaalada Istabul ee dlaka Turkey. Xasan Maxamuud Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya ayaa la sheegay inuu dhawaan u duuli doono Turkey, ayadoo hogaamiyaha kooxda Hargaysa uu dhankiisa isu diyaarinayo kulankaas. Warar horydhac ah ayaa sheegaya in Madaxweyne Culusow uu doonayo inuu ku qanciyo kooxda Siilaanyo inay nabad qaatana isla markaana yimaadaan shirka London. Wuxuuna doonayaa Mr Culusow in qorshaha Ingiriiska ee Tobanka sano la meel mariyo, isla markaana ay galaan toban sano oo ismaamul hoosaad ah balse wuxuusan dhib weyn u arkin inuu saxeexayo toban sano ka dib in cod laga qaado Waqooyiga Somaaliya. Xasan maxamuud Culusow ayaa aad isooga dhigo tiraya baaqyada Soomaalida midnimada jecel ee ah in shirka Tukreygu uusan noqon uun dawladda Soomaaliya iyo beesha SNM balse uu ahaado beesha SNM iyo beelaha kale ee midnimada jecel iyo dawladda Culusow, taasoo u muuqata inuusan Xasan dheg jalaq u siinayn

Indeed Lamu port will be the largest Port in East Africa Ethiopia is investing in that port to and so is south Sudan No port in east africa can compete with Lamu when it finishes

Larger somali problems the jubbaland formation the lowershabelle conflict the new influx of weapons in somalia. The somalia somaliland talks. The ic wants a stable somalia but it wants to reach that by using diplomacy, we somalis think we are really important for the west but we are not.

Xiinfaniin ma kubadi dhalaleysey ba ku sheegtey

Tallaabo Koonfurians have been living and based their entire foundation of state existence and how it functions on the international community some people think that the International community cares deeply to keep the former Somali republic at all cost together. Its a physiological mindset the past 21 years of beesha calaamku maxay tidhi They the international community can just play a mediating role to a certain extend but it cannot play a decisive role. Although the IC puts pressure on both SL and Somalia to hold these talks but thats where it ends even they know what is at stake but for the international community it dont really matter Somalia and Somaliland is not as important as we think. Hence why they kept quiet for to long even the current government in Somalia is in effective the west just sees interests.

Tallaabo ha isku daalin walaalkeen Xiin iyo kubadisa dhalalaysa eeh u gacanta ku wareejiyo. Somaliland and Somalia are clarirying their future relations in a foreign country its being facilitated by a foreign country as agreed on. The Garowe clan enclave was forced to sit behind their president Mr Hassan sheikh Maxamuud they have no input in this and thats whats burning them. The upcoming talks are just to pave a way for the real settlement talks between the 2 countries.

This is the first meeting of its kind between the two leaders and Turkey is very pleased that the meeting is taking place in İstanbul. Turkey is ready to do its part for the maintenance of the dialogue between the two leaders. We are facilitating rather than mediating with this meeting, ” said the diplomat. See they are not mediating but merely facilitating the conference, Poor countries do get dissolved you know officially not that there is a UNION intact at the moment Between Somaliland and Somalia's AU guarded government

I am going to love this show tallaabo do not expect to much from the Mogadishu government

^^ The AU would do it several african countries South Africa Kenya Ghana Angola to form a team to mediate. The thing is Somalia Somaliland case the IC is not as much involved the IC particularly the European countries and the Americans want Somalia and Somaliland to reach a settlement. But lets say the upcoming talks fail than the Europeans are forced to mediate. The Europeans have repeatedly and so did the Americans that Somalia and Somaliland case is something for the AU ,so they need to give AU the green light to mediate.

Gheele not really people born and bread in Somalia are people from Somalia , and Somalis from Kenya and Ethiopia according to the constitution of Somalia are foreigners

Oday ,actually carafaat is inline with what the government of Somalia says, that Somalia is for Somalis from Somalia , and that Somali Kenyans and Somali Ethiopians, belong in their own country. So technically carafaat didn't do something wrong nor can that be translated as clan hatred.

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Well right now Somalis have embraced it 4.5 and clan federalism lets see how it goes.

General siad bare started good initially but even he him self ended up being guarded by his close associates MOD alliance. Also he preoccupied Somalis with the Somaliweyn dream fighting Ethiopia this no longer the case.

Carafaat ma Somali baad u duceynaya tanina wa mid cusub:D

Carafaat Somaliland and Somalia needs African mediators , i some how think the world does not want SL and Somalia to reach a settlement. But lets see maybe the turks will surprise us all

Sharing a modern state has never been a Somali thing the current government of Somalia is based in xamar, a predominantly HAG territory. Clanism always existed but sharing the country based on clan is the major issue. As no one wants to take the back seat. Also there was no clear winner in the civil war. Clan jabhads was something of the past clan states is something of the future

Bring in the guns Walaalkeen Obama aad bu ugu mahadsanyahay

^^ It was always like that you cant defeat it unless.....never mind:D