Carafaat;938313 wrote: Why is Khatumo threatening with secession? If Khatumo truly seeks Unity and the restoration of the Union, then it should welcome the talks between Somalia and Somaliland. Carafaat the professor said if we join SL there is nothing stopping us and that will be the end of the union. But the problem is the khatumites are in a dilemma, the government in Mogadishu doesnt care if they join SL or not if they remain in taleex, the government in Mogadishu doesn't care. I believe sh sharif would have been a better partner for khatuumo.

Are there even entities called awdal state and maakhir in SL. i can go with that khatumo exist but the other 2

i dont think hassan culusow cares about Khatumo , he views them as people who cant offer him anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o8bbnqKd-DE

Somaliland can be a partner in the war against international terrorism and work for a better and stable horn of africa.

^^i know that but SL and the US dont have conflicting interests so we can be great partners

Somaliland gets wind in its sails for revamping power sectorThe region's antiquated, piecemeal power grid is constraining growth – but a new energy bill may change that Matthew Newsome and Nicholas Parkinson in Hargeisa guardian.co.uk, Monday 15 April 2013 07.00 BST Jump to comments (0) Engineers erect a wind turbine in Somaliland. Hargeisa wastes nearly 40% of its electricity through technical faults and antiquated materials. Photograph: Edwin Mireri In 2009, Hassan Ahmed Hussein brought an industrial bread-making machine from abroad to install in his hotel in downtown Hargeisa, the capital of Somaliland. Hassan's idea was part business, part self-interest. Wholewheat bread is not available in Somaliland, and he envisioned selling it to small-scale vendors. He baked bread for four months before coming to the unfortunate conclusion that the machine wasn't cost effective. Electricity in Somaliland is too expensive. While the rest of the world pays an average $0.15-0.30 per kilowatt hour, Hargeisa's residents pay $1 per kWh. He abandoned the bakery and, in 2009, bought a diesel generator, poles, wires and transformers to start his own power company, Iftin, which rapidly gained nearly 2,000 customers in a catchment area of 10,000 residents. He has since merged his power stations with the city's largest provider, KAAH, and now serves more than 4,500 people on the same grid. Hassan is not the only local power provider. There is little government support for power generation (pdf), and many of Hargeisa's wealthy residents import diesel generators to power homes and businesses. The independent providers depend on the price of diesel and Middle East exporters. When Somalia collapsed in 1991, wires, poles and generators in Hargeisa were taken over by the emerging Somaliland government. The new government had no money to invest in the power grid, so independent providers began to appear. As a result, a system whereby neighbours pay neighbours for electricity has gone unchecked. Somaliland rates are high due to a disjointed network of independent providers that have their own grid and use unreliable, dilapidated equipment. Somaliland's minister of energy, Hussein Abdi Dualeh, says the city loses nearly 40% of its electricity due to technical problems and antiquated materials. "Hargeisa's streets look like a plate of spaghetti. And then you add in theft and illegal connections, and these power providers are barely breaking even," says Dualeh. "We need a legal framework to govern the sector – we need an electricity law." The ministry of mining, energy and water resources is finalising a draft bill designed to regulate and standardise the sector, to be submitted to parliament for review this year. The legislation was drawn up in 2011 by the energy ministry with input from suppliers as well as technical experts provided by USAid Partnership for Economic Growth. A functioning electricity act is part of the partnership programme's goal to strengthen private business and the investment climate. In 2011, when the programme carried out an initial assessment, most business owners – particularly small-scale industries – cited electricity rates and services as a constraint to growth. High overhead costs give local businesses fewer opportunities to compete with imports, and as a result few products are produced in Somaliland. The new law is expected to consolidate the grids in Hargeisa, standardise infrastructure and establish safety standards. "Nobody can guarantee that the new law will reduce rates, but it will make the sector more efficient. We believe that inefficiency is one of the reasons that rates are so high," says Suleiman Mohamed, chief of party at the partnership programme. "Investors will be more confident to invest in a place where there is a law and accountability with legal systems." Hargeisa's streets are lined with kiosks and small merchants who pay independent providers about $10 a month for one 100W lightbulb. There are no switches and the bulb burns all day and night unless somebody removes it. "We have an inefficient, unreliable and prohibitively expensive power supply. How can you expect businesses that require a reliable electricity supply to succeed?" says Mohamed. The energy sector has begun looking at wind and solar power as alternative sources of energy. "Renewable energy needs to be considered. Somaliland has more than 340 days of sun and some of the fastest wind in the world," says Dualeh. In May, the partnership programme hosted Somaliland's first wind power investment workshop, which gathered members of the business community, government officials and investors from the diaspora. The programme used satellite imagery to create wind maps to demonstrate the country's wind power potential. Participants calculated the differences between diesel and wind energy in terms of generation costs and revenues. Last year, the programme began working with the energy and aviation ministries to establish a five-turbine pilot windfarm with an installed capacity of 100kW. The programme will also erect four 25-40 metre-high monitoring stations to collect data, an essential first step towards wind investments. "If we can harness the wind, we could supplement our power supply with an economical alternative. It's not out of reach – we just need to find the right partnership," says Dualeh. Hassan welcomes the pilot. "In Somaliland, there are no financial services to invest in equipment or expansion. If we had the means, we would be putting our capital into wind."

Its a good step the Americans are people who believe in the freedom of people it will be President siilaanyos first trip to America since he came to office.

Dr osman are you scared of Sultan Faisal:D By the Faisal did not say that

Xukuumadda Somaliland Oo Shaacisay In Madaxweyne Siilaanyo Marti-qaad ka helay Maraykanka April 14th, 2013 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Wasiirka wasaaradda Qorshaynta qaranka Dr. Sacad Cali Shire iyo Wasiirul dawlaha Maaliyadda Md. Cismaan Cabdilaahi Saxardiid (Cadaani) ayaa *****lka ka qaaday in Madaxweynaha Somaliland uu marti-qaad rasmi ah ka helay dawladda Maraykanka. Wasiirradan oo maanta shir ku qabtay magaalada Hargeysa ayaa sheegay inay iyagu socdaal ay ugu gogol xaadhayaan safarka madaxweynaha ay ku tagi doonaan dalka Maraykanka, iyagoo shir kaga sii qeyb geli doona Magaalada Addis-ababa ee dalka Maraykanka. “Waxaanu Aniga (Wasiirul dawlaha), Wasiirka Qorshaynta iyo Wasiirka Macdanta iyo biyuhu aanu safar ku tagi doonaa dalka Maraykanka, iyadoo aanu ugu sii gogol xaadhayno safarka madaxweynaha Somaliland dhawaan ku tagi doono dalkaasi oo uu madaxweynuhu marti-qaad rasmi ah ka helay,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirul dawlaha Maaliyadda Mudan Cismaan Cabdilaahi Saxardiid. Wasiirka wasaaradda Qorshaynta qaranka Dr. Sacad Cali Shire, ayaa sheegay ka hor inta aanay u ambo-bixin maraykanka ay Itoobiya kaga qeyb geli doonaan shir caalami ah oo ay kula kulmi doonaan qaadhaan-bixiyeyaasha. “Inta aanaan u ambo-bixin Maraykanka waxaanu dalka Itoobiya kaga qeyb geli doonaa shir caalamiya oo aanu kula kulmi doono Ha’yadaha DFID Iyo DANIDA oo maal-gelinaya sanduuqa mucaawimo ee Somaliland,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirka Qorsheyntu. Dr. Sacad waxa uu intaasi ku daray “Waxaanu halkaasi ku kala saari doonaa shirkadaha maamuli doona gacan ku haynta maamulka sanduuqaasi.” “Shirkaasi ka dib waxaanu u ambo-bixi doonaa dalka Maraykanka oo aanu gogol xaadh u noqon doono socdaalka Madaxweynuhu ku tagi doono wadankaasi oo uu marti-qaad ka helay,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirka Qorshaynta Somaliland.

Doctor you are right somalis wouldve destroyed that bridge the same way they destroyed beautiful xamar.brother chimera is a bit optimistic nothing wrong with that. But somalis can never be like eritreans

Stoic do not confuse the garaad clan with khatumo, the garaad clan is part and Parcel of sl they have helped built this nation, khatumo is one faction hiding in taleex. Khatumo cannot break nor make sl, sl has a strong foundation ssc was more of a problem to sl than khatumo. Ssc was a real jabhad. Khatumo hardly fights after a year and a half they havent made any progress . Galaydh is welcome in sl its his country but if he prefers to stay in xamar its find to. It wont change anything.

^^ He cannot do that HAG and the other clans dominate the parliament and jawaaris people ofcourse , galaydh and his faction are between a rock and a hard place. He cannot make peace with Siilaanyo he will lose credibility with in his khatumo faction. There is not much for him in xamar. He cannot make peace with the garowe clan enclave he will lose credibility with in his khatumo faction and , he will go down as a flipflopper since the professor and the pirates were never the best buddies.

Abyey is still in dispute nevertheless this was a win of basheer, but the south sudanese are not sitting still either , they are building a port in lamu and they are building a pipe line through ethiopia up to Djibouti. They are considering different options since they are land locked.

Haatu whats the dhibic.

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Tougher Somaliland-Somalia talks ahead Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:34 By: Liban Ahmad Somalilandsun - Twenty two years ago president Ahmed Mohamed Mohamud (Silanyo) of Somaliland wrote a paper entitled "A Proposal To The Somali National Movement: On A Framework For A Transitional Government In Somalia. " In the paper President Silanyo, then, former SNM Chairman, cautioned against forming a government in Mogadishu following the ouster of the military dictatorship in 1991 without consulting 'liberation movements', and reprisals against civilians. United Somali Congress leaders heeded neither suggestion. They formed an interim administration led by Ali Mahdi Mohamed and failed to rein in their militias, who committed widespread human rights violations. Now president Silaanyo is the first president of Somaliland to be able to hold talks with a Mogadishu-based government. Representatives from Somaliland administration and the former Mogadishu-based Transitional Federal Government, the predecessor of Somali Federal Government, met last year under an arrangement by the British government. Federalism, on which the Somali government institutions are based, is the second factor that made the talks possible. Since Somalia's successive federal governments have banked on the support of African forces , mostly from Somalia's neighbouring countries in favour of a federal system for Somalia, the former Transitional Federal Government leaders refrained from policies that could destabilise Somaliland, as Wikileaks entry on the late Somali president Abdillahi Yusuf Ahmed dated 24/11/2004 has shown. The outcome of Ankara meeting held yesterday gives strong hints about Somaliland intentions to be pragmatic about the status of the Somali Federal Government and its privileges in the international fora. Somaliland has given the Somali Federal Government the green light to ensure Somaliland gets its share of the development aid. This is a remarkable success for Somaliland since it will continue to maintain its partnership with development or multilateral agencies such as USAID, SIDA, DFID and the World Bank. However , cooperation could be derailed by the Somali FederalGovernment's drive to take advantage of its status that reinstated Somalia's membership in such agencies as International Monetary Fund. Will the Somali Federal Government consult Somaliland administration on any talks with IMF regarding new loans for post-war reconstruction? Somali Federal Government proposals to IMF for loans will not leave out Somaliland because of sovereigntygrounds but failure to discuss those issues with major stakeholders such as Somaliland could undermine all that has been achieved through talks. In other words, will Somalilandland consider legitimate agreements Somali Federal Governments signs with multilateral organisations without the input of Somaliland administration? Follow-up talks between the Somali Federal Government andSomaliland Administration have paved the way for tougher talks in the future. Decisions made in Mogadishu will affect Hargeisapolitically in the near future. That is why political issues were shelved during the talks between Somali Federal Government andSomaliland administration in Ankara.

I have no doubts parliamemts will approve it the question is will they agree in 89 days

Carafaat you are right this is the govt sl has to deal with it took the koonfurians 22 years to have a govt, and now the two sides are taking steps to restore relations. We must support it if the somalis both in somalia and somaliland dont talk no one will solve our problems

Somalis in the sixties and seventies were different they were people who wanted to build a great foundation. The somalis today are nothing like them by the way eritreans are extreme nationalist and so is their dictator. Somalis are the least nationalist people in africa

Somaliland commends Turkish role in facilitating talks with Somalia 14 April 2013 /GÖZDE NUR DONAT, ANKARA Ahmed Silanyo, the president of the autonomous Somaliland region, has expressed deep appreciation to Turkish officials on their determination to revive a process of dialogue between the governments of Somaliland and Somalia to end their two-decade-long dispute. “Turkey has played a very important role in trying to bring different sides together during the Somali conflict. They have consistently put an effort into establishing stability and promoting development in the region,” Silanyo said during an exclusive interview with Today's Zaman in Ankara on Sunday. “We live in a volatile region where there are many security problems. It is our wish to continue to engage in dialogue [with other actors] in the region,” Silanyo noted. He visited Turkey in mid-March to participate in talks with Turkish officials, including Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, who pledged to increase Turkish aid to Somaliland. Although it lacks international recognition, Somaliland enjoys a degree of governance, security and economic development absent in the broader Somalia, from which it declared independence in 1991. Somalia's troubles result from a 22-year-long civil war in the country, which began in 1991 when a coalition of clan-based armed opposition groups ousted the nation's long-standing military government. Somaliland has been an environment of relative peace amid the civil war in Somalia. Turkey has hosted the latest round of facilitation talks between the Somali and Somaliland governments as part of efforts to negotiate Somaliland's status. Somaliland is seeking international recognition as a separate country, while Somalia envisions a unified country including the territory. ARABAŞLIK Silanyo: Turkey playing constructive role in entire region The Somaliland president commended Turkey's active role in the region as a whole in addition to the developments in Somalia and Somaliland. “Turkey is establishing many programs that are useful to the region as a whole. We express our deep appreciation to Turkey for its constructive role in the region,” Silanyo maintained. The Somaliland president stated that his country has been described in international circles as an encouraging oasis of peace in the Horn of Africa for its stability and welcoming environment for investment. “Our territory has tremendous potential in many areas, including agriculture, infrastructure construction and many others. We also have rich mineral resources, including oil,” Silanyo said, discussing investment opportunities. Turkish companies have begun to initiate economic projects in the territory. Last December, Turkish oil giant Genel Energy PLC purchased a license to explore for oil in Somaliland.

Sudan's Bashir pledges peace in first South Sudan visit since split By Khalid Abdelaziz and Andrew Green | Reuters – Fri, Apr 12, 2013 By Khalid Abdelaziz and Andrew Green JUBA (Reuters) - Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir said on Friday he wanted peace and normal relations with South Sudan in his first visit there since it split off from his country in 2011 after decades of civil war. The neighbors agreed in March to resume pumping oil through pipelines from south to north and ease the tensions which had threatened to reignite the war between them that had killed more than two million people. Diplomats hope Bashir's visit will help the two sides overcome deep mistrust and solve their remaining disputes over the ownership of Abyei and other contested border regions. Bashir, who canceled a visit to Juba a year ago when border fighting almost flared into full-scale war, said in a speech in the southern capital that he had ordered Sudan's borders with South Sudan to be opened for traffic. "I have instructed Sudan's authorities and civil society to open up to their brothers in the Republic of South Sudan," Bashir said, alongside South Sudan's President Salva Kiir. Kiir said he had agreed with Bashir to continue talks to solve all conflicts over disputed regions along their volatile 2,000 km (1,200 mile) frontier. "Some issues need more discussions," Kiir said, adding that he had accepted an invitation from Bashir, who was walking on his trademark walking stick, to visit Sudan soon, his second trip since the secession. Neither leader offered a solution for Abyei, a border region that contains fertile land, some oil and is highly symbolic. After their meeting in the presidential palace, Bashir swapped his business suit and tie for a traditional white robe to join Friday prayers in the "Kuwaiti" mosque in central Juba. "I came to Juba because we now have the biggest chance to make peace," he told 400 Muslim worshippers from South Sudan and the Sudanese expatriate community. "We won't go back to war. President Kiir and I agreed that the war was too long," said Bashir, who last visited Juba to attend South Sudan's independence ceremony on July 9, 2011. At a press conference, local journalists challenged Bashir for referring to the South's ruling party, the Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM), as "insects" when emotions ran high on both sides during last year's border fighting. "I didn't call the people of South Sudan insects...I cannot do this because I ruled them for 20 years," Bashir said, adding that he had only been making a play on the SPLM's Arabic name. He said Sudan had been hurt when South Sudan's army in April of last year briefly seized the Heglig oilfield, which is vital to Sudan's economy. "There was no justification for this," he said. "WE NEED PEACE" In the ramshackle capital Juba, where main roads were closed and festooned with the flags of both countries, residents said they hoped Bashir's visit would finally bring peace. "We need to live in harmony. We need peace between Sudan and South Sudan," said 22-year-old engineering student Robert Mori. Edmund Yakani, head of the Community Empowerment for Progress Organization (CEPO), which promotes civil society values, said Bashir's presence showed he wanted peace. South Sudan, the world's newest state, shut down its 350,000-barrel-a-day oil output in January 2012 at the height of a pipeline fee dispute, with devastating effect on both struggling economies. The two sides subsequently agreed to restart oil shipments, grant each others' citizens residency, increase border trade and encourage close cooperation between their central banks. Last week, South Sudan re-launched crude production with the first oil cargo expected to reach Sudan's Red Sea export terminal at Port Sudan by the end of May. Both nations withdrew troops from border areas as agreed in an African Union-brokered deal in September. But they took until March to set up the demilitarized border zone, due to mistrust. But even as Bashir's visit raised hopes of eased tension on Sudan's southern frontier, conflict has flared up again in its western region of Darfur, forcing some 50,000 Sudanese to flee into neighboring Chad over the past week. Fighting has ravaged Darfur since 2003 when mainly non-Arab rebels took up arms against Sudan's Arab-led government, accusing it of politically and economically marginalizing the region. The violence has fallen off from its peak in 2003 and 2004, but a fresh surge has forced more than 130,000 people to flee their homes this year, according to the United Nations. (Writing by Ulf Laessing; Editing by Pascal Fletcher and Michael Roddy)

Eritreans are very organized people and their diaspora pay tax to their government in Asmara, i dont see Somalis doing that.

Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya iyo Wafdigii kala Qayb-galay shirkii Turkiga oo dib ugu soo laabtay Magaalada Muqdisho Axad, Abriil 14, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud iyo wafdigii kala qaybgalay shirkii Turkiga oo isugu jiray wasiirro iyo xildhibaanno ka tirsan dowladda ayaa dib ugu soo laabtay saakay magaalada Muqdisho ee xarunta Soomaaliya. Wasiirka arrimaha gudaha ee Soomaaliya, C/kariin Xuseen Guuleed ayaa si kooban uga hadlay shirka iyo qodobbadii kasoo baxay, wuxuuna sheegay in ay ku faraxsan yihiin in shirka uu sii socon doono, lagana soo saaray qodobbo wax ku ool ah. “Shirka wuu sii soconayaa oo 90 maalmood kaddib ayaa la isugu tagayaan Turkiga, runtiina shirkan meel wanaagsan ayaa la keenay, waxaana rajo ka qabnaa in intaan la isaga soo dhawaan doono,” ayuu yiri Guuleed oo intaas ku daray in dhankooda ay ku faraxsan yihiin qodobbadii kasoo baxay shirka. C/kariin Guuleed ayaa dhinaca dowladda Soomaaliya u saxiixay heshiiska iskaashi ee ka koobnaa toddobada qodob, iyadoo dhinaca Somaliland uu u saxiixay wasiirka arrimaha dibadda, Maxamed Cabdullaahi Cumar. Inkastoo heshiiska lasoo dhaweeyay haddana waxaa jir qodobbo ay dadku si aad ugu wareersan yihiin kuwaasoo ay ka mid yihiin tababarrada ciidamada iyo wadaagga dhaqaalaha dibadda laga helo. Shacabka Soomaaliyeed qaarkood ayaa rumeysan in tani ay caddeyn u tahay in midnimada Soomaaliya ay aad u soo dhawaatay halka kuwo kalena ay u arkaan inay tahay sad-bursi ay sameynayso Somaliland maadaama ay dowladda Soomaaliya aqoonsi ka heshay caalamka. Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh oo intii uu ku sugnaa Turkiga ka hadlay sida uu u arko heshiiska ayaa sheegay inuu yahay mid wanaagsan ayna intii hore isaga soo dhawaadeen dowladda Soomaaliya iyo maamulka Somaliland oo ku dhawaaqay gooni-isu-taaggiisa 20-sano ka hor. Wadahadalladan ayaa waxaa gar-wadeen ka ahayd dowladda Turkiga, iyadoo madaxda Turkiga ay iyaguna muujiyeen sida ay ugu faraxsan yihiin heshiiska hordhaca ah ee ay gaareen hoggaamiyeyaasha Soomaalida ayna intan isaga sii dhawaan karaan