The content of the the article is much about nothing and she keeps on repeating the same rhetoric's unity of the former Somali republic must be maintained at all cost. But its like she waiting for a messiah from Mogadishu to save her. But the folks in Mogadishu seems to be fine with how the talks are going between SL and Somalia. But we hope to see her back in here. Oodweyne the boys from wardheer will be writing articles in the next coming days and denouncing these talks and how the process is going, particularly mr nails in the coffin and our good friend faisal rooble and NGONGE favorite osman hassan lol.

OPINION With all due respect to Turkey and the International Community for trying to patch up the battered body of the Somali nation. The recent Somalia Somaliland dialogue in Turkey between Somalia’s elected President, Hassan Sheikh Mohamoud and Somaliland’s Ahmed Silanyo, who happens to represent only one segment out of the many local administrators that come under President Hassan’s domain as leader of the Federal Government of Somalia, does not seem to bode well for the well being of the Somali nation as a whole. It is said that the Turkish government agreed to host the talks at the request of the two parties and that Turkey is simply hosting it and the outcome is up to the two parties themselves. However, there is a great deal of suspicion as the said dialogue is viewed one-sided, and many Somalis are doubtful about the meaningfulness or credibility of the dialogue since the talks are specifically directed at one segment of Somali society, and are therefore not inclusive in nature. The dialogue is said to be a continuation of the UK and UAE talks of last year and only a few, if any, know exactly what transpired in those talks. Moreover, what many are asking themselves is that, after all the goodwill and the brotherly affections between Turkey and Somalia, and since Turkey has already pledged to keep Somalia’s oneness and integrity intact, why would Turkey agree to a situation that is less than aboveboard? There is also the question of why Turkey is allowing itself to be associated with a known criminal whose only aim is to dismember Somalia, even if it means imprisoning, killing or displacing other Somali communities? A position that is at the outset a stark departure from Turkey’s own objectives for Somalia. The Turkish government maybe in the dark about Silanyo’s criminal activities in Northern Somalia. However, Somalia’s President is very much aware of what’s happening in that part of the country. But since neither Silanyo nor our President are willing to tell the world the truth about the thorny issue of what the Somaliland is all about, perhaps the time has come for the Turkish government to get to the bottom of the issue from more reliable sources. Silanyo is not only responsible for the death and displacement of Muslim communities in Khatumo state, he is illegally and forcibly occupying lands and homes of fellow Muslim Somalis where his militia daily terrorize villagers, helpless women and poor nomads; while he himself poses as mouthpiece and sole charge of a Somali region that is home to five different ethnic groups that are independent of each other. It would be ludicrous to blast Turkey for not knowing the Somali clan system, nor can they be blamed for miscalculating the extent of how weird and dishonesty Somali politics can get, and we do know Turkey means well. But, if we take the term Somaliand to mean that portion of Somalia that was administered by the British during the colonial period, then we are talking about five distinctive clans, which even the British dealt with separately. And not just one cohesive unit whose political or economic interests can be solely represented and managed by a single entity. Hence, before any viable dialogue between Somalis can take place, such a dialogue must include all parties that have stake in such a dialogue. What’s more suspect and unforgivable to many Somalis is the Somali President’s role in all of this and the rationale of his meeting with Silanyo as though he were his counterpart. This is a real slap in the face for Somali unity and creates an identity crisis not only for imposter Silanyo, but also for our own elected President. President Hassan is bound by the Word of God he swore on to safeguard the interests of each and every Somali, and he was not elected merely for the sake of protecting the interests of a criminal who should have been in jail for crimes against humanity. The way our President conducted the so called Somalia-Somaliland talks creates more questions than answers, and the people who voted for this President to office have a right to clear, unequivocal answers: Firstly, in what capacity did our President talk to Silanyo? Did he talk to him as he would to one of the many local administrators of the country, or is he talking to him like an an independent leader of an independent country whose boundaries are clearly marked and agreed upon? And if so, where does this country’s borders start, and where do they end? Secondly, isn’t our President leader for the whole of Somalia including Khatumo State, Maakir State, Awdal State, etc, or is he just a Governor of Mogadishu? And lastly, if our President is the real leader of Somalia’s Federal Government who is sworn to defend the land and the people’s integrity, why is he turning a blind eye to the aggressions that are taking place before his eyes? Aren’t the people of Khatumo just as worthy of protection and honor as everyone else in Somalia? Doesn’t the President know that had it not been for Khatumo’s unwavering loyalty to the Somali nation there would’ve been no Somalia at all the way we know it? Needless to say, the Ankara Communique that came out Saturday, 13, April, 2013, is terribly deficient as it reduces the Somali President’s role, on the one hand, to that of a passive facilitator for Silanyo’s Somaliland, while on the other hand, he is treated or treats himself more like some sort of a buffer zone and a guardian for other nation’s interests, and not the interests of the people he should be protecting. The real issues, the injustices, the occupations, the lack of accountability on the part of Somali leaders, Silanyo etc., the very evils that should have have been addressed are not mentioned. There is also talk of curbing marital crime and serious crime, but nowhere does the Communique talk about Silanyo’s own transgressions on the ground or as to how to resolve this naked hostility if Somalis are ever to reconcile. On the contrary, the agreement talks about nursing the breakaway entity via Mogadishu and our President doesn’t seem to mind what Silanyo will do with the said aid, nor do we know for sure if our President is concerned whether this aid will translate into more aggressions and death for the peace loving people of the North as has been the case with previous international aid that found its way to Somaliland coffers. The grievances other tribes that reside in that region, such as Khatumo State of Somalia, have against Silanyo’s aggressions, incursions, and injustices are real and neither Somalia’s President nor Silanyo can sweep them away under the carpet. And unless the international community is dying to find on their hands yet another Somali tragedy, they will do well to test the waters before they plunge themselves headlong into Somalia’s troubled waters. Regardless, I applaud Turkey’s noble effort and humanitarian approach. I just felt it would be wise as a Somali living in turkey, a country I do love, to shed some light on the intricacies of Somali politics. It is only through a thorough understanding of the many dimensions of this issue that will help pave the road to a successful way forward. Safi Abdi is an independent writer, published author, and poet, and she is currently based in Fethiye, Mugla.

Somalia maxay ka heleyaan ki ugu jecla Somalia xita wuxu yidhi meesha waxba la igaga ma ogola oo laba reer uun ba meesha madax ka noqon kara. reer awdal are the founding fathers of the Somaliland republic.

Its good that the president of Somalia and Somaliland are talking there are no back door deals the world was the witness including the top leaders of turkey.

Interesting does this mean the city will be united.

Oodweyne the Khatumites have a hard time finding the right spot in Africa their alligences with the pirates in the past brought them nothing but confusion since they are not the people of the sea. Wanting to be part of the HAG associated club also ended up in no results so joining the people of Khartoum seems to be the last option or they could join first vacate their villages in eastern sool and than move to oil rich abiyey.

Interesting but why is the President of Khatumo calling his people the people of khartoum are they related to Sudanese people. or do they wish to join sudan instead of SL.

They need to train capable security forces also better intelligence is needed, the brits warned them, but no one took it serious.

Carafaat ba i akhriyey waan yara indha culusahay adeer.

Carafaat;938463 wrote: So the President of Khatumo is contemplating with real secession from Somalia in an official letter to the President of Somalia? I dont get it khatumo wants secession as in what the Khatumo republic ? Well they first refused to be part of the pirate enclave. And now they are not one one line with the rest of the Koonfurians?

The ankara communique Stated that the Dialogue is between the Federal Government of Somalia and the Government of Somaliland . The international community that is supporting this process will only provide facilitation when is needed. 7. Agreed to refrain from using any inflammatory language and any other act which may put the continuation of the Dialogue at risk.

SNL USP NUF Xisbullah intu ba wa isku umad khadarow xageenu wax u kala wadna. Khadarow i have many relatives who want a union maxaynu u kala reebeyna dadka. The case of SL independence and union is not based on Clans with in SL.

Che the thing is ofcourse the country is full of tribal fiefdoms but they have a government now and they have a constitution and a parliament should that not be enough. Or should some tribes be given more privileges above the government its self. As for the case of sool its a region contested by Somaliland , the khatumo faction and the garowe clan enclave , the vast majority is in the hands of SL.How ever khatumo should pick a side if they want to be represented either be under culusow or siilaanyo when it comes to the talks.

But Somalia and Somaliland issue is a separate problem and conflict something which started since the unilateral declaration of independence by the Somalilanders in 1991. Ofcourse there are other Problems domestic problems Somalia is facing , but Somalia has a government now and they SL government shouldn't they talk to the legitimate government of Somalia. Let me you ask you this where do you think the solution can come from. How do you think Somaliland should approach Somalia and how do you think Somalia should approach Somaliland.

Che if the Somalia and Somaliland leaders cannot solve the matter of SL and Somalia , regarding the future relationship union /or independence who is. Since the IC called for SL govt and Somalia govt to talk and come to an agreement. Eventhough Somaliland is still officially part of the Somali republic on paper but practically its not. Who will solve this

ofcourse qabil qaran maha , qabilo isku tagay ba qaran noqda , mar mar na xita qabilka qaran noqda wa hadu qabilku aad u fara badanyahay oo na u kala duwanyahay marba si bay ku xidhantahay.

A_Khadar;938397 wrote: Awoowe, we are talking about poeple, clans.. 5 Beelood baa meesha degan oo 4 diidantahay mashruucaaga.. Beelaha shanta beelood eeh SL wa wada walaalo isku hooyo isku aabo ha ina kala reebin khadarow.

Wadani;938403 wrote: Ha i fahmi waayin. Haddii ay Soomaalidu lahayd kartida iyo gobonimada loo baahanyahay si loogu gudbo nidaam danta guud ku dhisan dee ciddii markaas soomaaliwayn diiddaa waaba cadow fogaaday. Anigu soomaali oo is raacda wax aan ka jeclahay ma jitro, ayaan darrso se hadda raggeedi ma noola. Markaa adeer Soomaaliland tan yar ee aan ku badbaaday ha iga ciidaynin, haddii aad ku soo biiraysidna cid xigtaa majirto ee ahlan wa sahlan. Somali cid ka cararaysa ma jirto , laakin hada la yidha geela ino kala sooc , oo kani sumadaydi bu leeyahay eeh waxa ha iskaga kaya qasin ma ceeb ba . nin walba gurigisa bu Somali ku yahay nin Somali ka cararaya ma jirto walaalken ismaciil cumar geele tallow Somalida mu ka cararaya kuwa kiiniya la heshiiyey ma Somali bay ka cararayaan maxa Somalida qaar na ay gurigooda inay joogaan loogu sharfay qaar na la leeyahay waad cararaysan. Somali mar bay is raacday markina labadi buul eeh u shidna labadiba wa gubteen marka xalku waxa weye siday xeego na xeego u noqoto ilkana u nabad galaan. Buulaasha leeydhadka ha ka daminina.

oba hiloowlow;938400 wrote: jacpher somalinimada aad ka hadleysid waa maxey? look at JL for example dadkii natives.ka ahaa boqolaalka sano deganaa ayaa xaqooda loo quuri la'yahay and your telling me somalinimo wey nooshahay. Oba Somalinimada waxa hayaa nimanka shurakada la ah Kikuyada Somalinimada haka hor iman hadi kala khayin al wadan baan lugugu sheegi haka hor iman Somalinimada.

Jacpher;938395 wrote: x.xaaji: Ma waxaa la gaaray markii aad naive iska dhigi jirtay? Sow adinka ku andacoonaya Soomaalinimo ayaa na loo laayey, Soomaalinimo maxay na tartay, Soomaalinimo waxaan dhib aheyn ma aynaan ka helin. Ain't this the whole bases of your secession? Sxb Oba iyo inta kula fikir ah ka dhaadhici Soomaalinimo inaysan jirin. The SL case is first not secession since Somalia was never the mother country of SL , but the 2 formed a union to form the greater Somali republic, one side left the union , the other side wants a union but its not certain how to have one. There is no special bond between SL and Somalia matter infact Somaliland has great relations with the 3 inhabited Somali speaking countries. I still do not get Somalinimo la no laayey i have never heard that i first wanna know what Somalinimo is what does it mean to you what does it mean for a person in garisa what does it mean for a person in Djibouti and jigjiga. Jacpher Somalinimadu ma walefare dawlad Somaliyeed bixisa ba ma dad gaar ah Somalinimada micnaheeda og. Yaa Somaali ah yaase ahayn micnaha Somalinimo halkay ka timi waxayalas oo dhan ba suaalo u bahaan in laga jawaabo. Oba laftigisa inu Somalia dhiso bu raba,laakin dad ba leh Somalinimadi baanu kontrobaan ku haysana ana iyada laftigeedan fahmayn.

STOIC;938387 wrote: I doubt they losing the war to Mogadishu yet.Judging from the sweet words I heard churned out of Mogadishu residents by the Somali BBC reporter few days ago it seems the Mogadishu public are coming at peace with SL agenda so far...This new opinions marks the beginning of a new orderly thoughts in solving the elephant in the room, but should not make our brothers from the north elated yet. Mogadishu loses nothing if SL goes , its just the emotional attachment they have with SL , but practically they will lose nothing 90% of the Mogadishu people have never seen Somaliland or lived there. Somaliland and Somalia case is much easier practically than the south sudan and sudan case and the eritrea ethiopia case.

Jacpher;938378 wrote: ^Right because yall share the pure genes of the holy durriya and deserve a country of your own. Unlike the pirates or the looters, yall 'look alike, both in [perfect] mannerism and in verbal expressive sense.' SL is winning the battle only to lose the war to Muqdisho. if the pirates and the looters want to remain one country than that should be respected if they wanna go their separate ways than that 2 should be respected. SL will always win do not worry about that

Jacpher;938368 wrote: Oba is being brainwashed these days by the separtists on this board. Someone help the brother out. Waryaa Soomaalinimo is the whole purpose of President Hasaan is meeting the secessionists in Turkey. His message is solely based on Soomaalinimo and you nod your head in agreement with xaaji that Somalinimo is dead, a man whose aim is to kill Soomaalinimo and build up his Qaran based on his clan entity. If there were no Somalinimo, your adeer wouldn't have a good case. Say it ain't dead and you're coming to Muqdisho. We first have to understand this terminology called Somalinimo is it a culture a country a nation a language is it what bonds the Somali speaking people. I cant kill something i hardly know what it stands for. Is it pan Somalism based the language the Somali people speak. I mean we have here people who were calling for that IGAD countries have more say in making an administration for Somalia (jubbaland) then the government of Somalia its self. Are the IGAD countries included into the so called Somalinimo. President hassan sheikh maxamuud is the President of Somalia, not the President of Somalinimo well maybe he is but we still dont know what it is by the way who is dying for Somalinimo currently Puntland Somaliland Khatumo Jubbaland raskambooni Djibouti ONLF you tell me?

Carafaat the thing is what can khatumo offer hassan culusow and his admin , obviously some of the territory of khatumo is still claimed by the garowe clan enclave. While the vast majority is under SL Khatumo needs to rethink their strategy when dealing with Koonfurians.

oba hiloowlow;938351 wrote: '' somalinimo ayaanu uu dhimaneyna'' damn i hate when people use the somalinimo card for their own agendas. Somalinimo is an overused notion no one really understands what it means we tried to brainstorm about it before. For each and every one it means something else. Ofcourse for Cali khalif and his crew it means something else. And i am sure dad wa dhimanayey the past 21 years but lets be real cid Somalinimo u dhimatay the past 21 years ma jirto