Dee sidaasay jecelyihin 3 mamuul oo magaalo kaliya yeelato la jeclow, adigu xita hadaad tagtid sadex bay ku qeybsan doonan. Haday sadex mamuul samaystaan sidaasay raban iyagu waxay aminsanyihin inay sida hormar ku gaadhayan anaguna wanu ugu duceyneyna. 4.5 mashallah banu leenahay hormarka mamuulada beeleysan kheyrki ugu fiicna baanu leenahay. Maxaad ugu diidi

Carafaat dalkan waad ka hadli karta , laakin maalinta SL la aqoonsado oo ay Somaliland iyo Somalia si official u kala baxaan hadal haynta koonfurianska adigu waad deyneysa galkacyo may 5 mamuul ha u samaystan. Dadkan waxay isla jecelyihin la jecloow wax alalay waxay isla raban la jeclow haday beletweyne 10 mamuul ka samaystaan tafadal banu leenahay , haday al shabab raacayaan , mabruuk baanu leenahay , haday afka kikuyada baranayaan bugaag iyo qalimaan baynu u diri. wax alaale waxay isla jecelyihin wanu la jecelnahay. Thats my new motto.

Carafaat i dont mind that even if you were born on mars you are still an ethnic Somalilander and they view you as one the few SL crooks in Somalias govt they view them as outsiders , remember professor samatar statement. Waad iman kartan laakin hadal badan idin ma ogalin:D I have lived more of my life in Somalia than i did in Somaliland but that doesn't make a difference. Carafaat Somalia of the past is no longer ours every one knows that sawta laga xigsaday wax fahan.

Che -Guevara;938858 wrote: Xiin. For people claiming to be from different country, their obsession with Somalia is rather puzzling and unhealthy. Carafaat. Dire security situation? what have you been smoking? Somalia claims Somaliland to be part of their country whether Somalilanders consider themselves a different country or not is not the point , if the koonfurians accept that Somaliland is no longer part of their country. Than they have every right to say to Somalilanders F off ,stop talking about our affairs they would even have the right to ban them from this site. Its like the talks between SL and Somalia, the world forced the 2 sides to talk so we have to talk about everything. But go'i maysan Hanaga hadlina nala jooga obsession baad qabtaan , waxaso dhan isku meel ma galaan:D

Xiinfaniin are you sayin carafaat the unionist inu kala jeclaado geyiga Somaliyeed?

The Turks are mere facilitators not mediators when will Xiinfaniin understand that , their input is nothing but an opinion had they support SL quest for statehood wouldn't mean a thing either. They are not forming the chief negotiators to mediate between the 2 sides they are just hosting the conference. Let first the talks restart again in 90s days and wait for the outcome and than see the reaction of the wider international community who called for these talks.

Time will tell in 90 days whether it will be union or independence or the talks to fail.

There is still no such thing as a awdal state or maakhir state it doesn't exist , khatumo exist but its ineffective in the border area and their predecessors ssc rebels joined SL . So cigaal stands correct SL controls much more territory now than when cigaal aun was leading the goverment political base is much wider and all more inclusive. From 1991 to 1993 SNM interim government From 1993 to 2002 Civilian government after the borama conference From 2003 to 2010 Democratically elected goverment From 2010 to present Democratically elected government

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Looks good.

^Talking was always good it was in kulmiyes campaign even cigaal and rayaale wanted that but there was no goverment to talk to its good the 2 sides are talking they are still not there if they dont talk there wont be a solution.

We know alshabaab is defeated in much of southern Somalia and are losing territory every single day but Alshabaab has changed its strategy to strike with homicide attacks. And create insecurity obviously they cannot combat 5 African union countries and are under-equipped and out numbered. But their attacks are deadly and well organized and carried out in perfectness. What is the security plan of the government how is the intelligence of the government how competent is the interior minister. Is there a chance to reconcile the government with alshabaab?

Somali militants threaten more attacks after killing 30 Reuters Tuesday, April 16, 2013 Somali militants linked to al Qaeda warned on Monday of further attacks in the capital, a day after killing at least 30 people in a wave of coordinated bombings and shootings that exposed the fragility of security gains in Mogadishu. African peacekeeping troops blocked streets and searched houses across the city at dawn to flush out suspected members of the Islamist militant group al Shabaab, which claimed responsibility for the strikes. But the rebels warned of more attacks and taunted the Mogadishu government, which they consider a Western stooge, over its trouble securing the city as Somalia struggles to emerge from more than two decades of conflict and anarchy. Although a military offensive under an African Union peacekeeping banner has pushed al Shabaab from urban strongholds in central and southern Somalia, the attacks reinforced concerns the militants remain a potent force. "Yesterday's blasts eliminated the dreams of the puppet government. More lethal attacks are coming," Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, al Shabaab's spokesman for military operations, told Reuters by telephone. At least one car bomb exploded and several suicide bombers blew themselves up at Mogadishu's law courts on Sunday. Gunmen also stormed the court compound, spraying it with bullets. Two hours later, a car bomb was detonated near the city's fortified airport. The U.N. Security Council condemned the attacks and said it was willing to "take action against those whose behavior threatens the peace, stability, or security of Somalia." Prime Minister Abdi Farah Shirdon said the attack would not stop the government's efforts to restore peace and security. He said there were several experienced foreign fighters among the attackers at the courts, showing that the fight against the militants was not just a Somali affair. "We are concerned about the foreign involvement in this attack and this is why we are working so hard with our international partners on security and intelligence sharing," he said in a statement. Al Shabaab said six of its fighters were killed in the attack, but the government has not said how many militants died. The law courts were a symbolic target. Somalia's new government has made reforming the judiciary a priority in its campaign to shake off the country's "failed state" tag. The scale of Sunday's attacks suggest the Islamist militants remain well organized, enabling them to infiltrate the city from which they were driven out two years ago and target important installations with apparent ease. Western and Somali officials are concerned the militants were seeking to rebuild their strength in the capital. "It will be almost impossible to eliminate al Shabaab," member of parliament Mohamed Farah Jimale told Reuters. "They will regroup and continue bombing." Britain, which has a large Somali population and has warned of threats to its own security from Somalia-trained militants, had warned this month of an imminent attack in Mogadishu, highlighting the international networks involved. Somalia's finance minister said the attack reinforced the government's call for more aid to pay and train its security personnel as it seeks to rebuild the nation of 10 million people. "It proves that we need the support of friendly countries to help us in improving the security forces' capability in Mogadishu and other areas," Mohamud Hassan Suleiman told Reuters. A more stable Somalia could help curb piracy, which has flourished in the absence of an effective central government, and would soothe worries that Somali Islamists could expand territory they control which could be used as a training ground for militants who could strike elsewhere. (Additional reporting by Edmund Blair and Michelle Nichols at the United Nations; Writing by Richard Lough; Editing by Jon Hemming and Bill Trott)

A khadar Somaliland quest for recognition has taking a different course and it will not be only searched from outside but also with the talks with Somalia clarifying the future relations between SL and Somalia. Are you saying Somaliland is in a tight position although it hasn't still achieved recognition it has larger political base better organized a functioning government. And it forced Somalia to come to the negotiation tables as 2 equal entities. Where do you see khatumo in the next coming 2 years what have they achieved the past 1 year and a half domestically internationally.

Supreme Garaad jamac giving President hassan a clear warning Garaadka Guud Ee Maamulka Khaatumo state oo Ka Horyimi Isxulufeysiga SNM iyo Culusoow, Kana Digey Waxey Wadaan Taleex (Allssc.com) Garaadka Guud ee beelaha dega maamulka Khaatumo State Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali ayaa digniin culus u direy madaxweynihii soomaaliyi hawsha u dhiibatey laakiin dib xumaantii qabiilka u fadhanaya Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud (Xasan Culusoow) Culusoow ayaa hada u xiibsiibtey inuu soo nooleeyo dagaaladii sokeeye ee labaatanka sano soomaaliya kasocdey iyo isxulifeysigii qabiilada ee ku saleysnaa dabartirka qabiilada kale ee ay u arkaan iney xukunka wadanka wax ka doonayaan iney wax ka qabtaan Hoos ka dhegeyso hadalada garaadka mar uu ka hadlayey magaalada taleex oo shir aan loo kala kicini uga socdo heyadaha madaxtooyada, maamulka iyo dhaqanka ee maamulka Khaatumo State. shirkan ayaa waxaa looga arinsanayaa balan kabaxa Xasdan culusoow iyo taxaalufka cusub ee uu la abuurtey jabhada beesha hargeysa ee SNM, jabhadan oo ilaa iyo hada gaboodfalo kala duwan oo isugu jira dhul boob, dil iyo xabsi ka buuxin ku heysa qabiilada dega waqooyiga ee aan ahayn beesha Isaaqa khaasatan magaalooyinka Laasacaanood, Ceerigaabo iyo Boorama. Hoos Ka Dhegeyso hadalka Garaadka. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wX5DWMKoZ1E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

^^ Somaliland is more united today controls more territory than during cigaals era and its more developed economically military. Although there are many challenges facing Somaliland but i even think cigaal could be very proud how far Somaliland is today.

Listen to Garaad jamac a warning to hassan sheikh maxamuud that if he doesnt watch his steps, another destructive civil war is inevitable http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wX5DWMKoZ1E

Ditoore do you think there is an unholy alliance between the HAG dominated government of Somalia and the elites of Somaliland. And if that is the case why is faroole quiet.

i find those topics unpolitical i rather discuss politics , Ditoore what you think of the Somalia and Somaliland talks hassan sheikh and axmed siilaanyo are talking its historical the 2 leaders from both countries haven't talked in a long time.

They cannot make peace with the pirates since the pirates have different interests they will bring nothing of value to the pirates. They will most likely organize another conference and re declare what was declared before maybe with a new name. I think a faction with in the Khatumo faction can join SL but they will not join all of them. Problem for them they wont get any assistance from the Koonfurians may they be pirates or the Mogadishu folks.

USC and SNM meeting neither of these rebel movements exist today come on ditoore you can do better than that.

There were rumors of cigaal wanted to take the seat of the Somali republic in 1994, he suggested this idea re modeling Somalia to his shape and moving the capital to hargeisa. When he came up with that idea 6 of his ministers resigned , than he dropped the whole idea and later that year the hargeisa civil war began. in 2000 he wanted to get hold of the conference , but the IC supported Djibouti in this and ismael omar geele got the project.

Dowlada Kenya oo looga digay Faragelinta arimaha Jubooyinka 16. april 2013 Qaar kamid ah waxgaradka Soomaaliyeed ayaa ku baaqay in ciidamada Kenya ee ku sugan gudaha dalka Soomaaliya inay dalka isaga baxaan. Maxamed Xasan Xaad oo kamid ah odayaasha Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in Kenya aysan ka shaqeynayn maslaxada iyo danaha umadda Soomaaliyeed sidaasi awgeedna ay qurux badnaan laheyd inay dalka isaga baxaan. Wuxuu sheegay ujeedka Kenya inuu yahay maslaxad ay iyadu leedahay,iyaga oo adeegsanaya dad Soomaaliyeed oo gambaad ka dhiganaya sida uu Xaad sheegay. Shirka ka socda Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa wuxuu ku sheegay inuu yahay mid aan dan iyo faa’iido ugu jirin dadka Soomaaliyeed,isaga oo ku celiyay in Dowladda Kenya ay ugu baaqayaan inay faraha kala baxaan tacadiga iyo dhibaatada ay ka wadaan Magaalada Kismaayo. Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa hada waxaa ka socda shir looga hadlayo arimaha Jubbooyinka kaasi oo ay leeyihiin qaar kamid ah odayaasha kasoo jeeda deeganadaasi.

Very sad my god protect the American people from these terrorists.

oba hiloowlow;938552 wrote: well gaalkacyo waa special case the only city who still got a greenline it is the task of the government to get involved and come up with a solution dont u think? Good point galkacyo is the most divided city it needs one administration we support the government in this.